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Anyone Else Notice The Date On Bond's Fundraiser Invitation?


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#1 Star 2350

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 09:34 AM

It was 8.23.08, August 23rd 2008. How does this fit in with/affect the timeline from Casino Royale then?

#2 DamnCoffee

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 10:29 AM

Well, who knows how long it took Bond to track down White in Casino Royale. I wouldn't think he would track him down in a matter of weeks. You have to remember that White is a part of a very dangerous organisation, that no one knew existed. He was probably quite difficult to track.

Just because it has been confirmed that Quantum of Solace is a direct follow on from Casino Royale, doesn't mean that the last seen of Royale isn't set in 2008.

#3 Vauxhall

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 10:29 AM

If we try to fit it into the timeline of CASINO ROYALE, then we must assume that it took Bond 2 years to track down Mr White.

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 10:32 AM

White is one tricky customer with nerves of steel. At the opera, all the Quantum members leave - except White. Bond apparently does not even notice White is there. It would have taken Bond a while to track him down I think. And as Mharkin says, the last scene in CR could be set in 2008.

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 10:32 AM

Either that or he kept him in the back of his car for two years :(

#6 David Schofield

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 10:43 AM

Either that or he kept him in the back of his car for two years :(


Well, we DO know Bond had time to get changed into a new suit, shirt and tie...

He may even have had time to get tailored for them. Tom Ford don't run up suits overnight if he made the sartorial decison to change to him from Brioni in that time. :)

And did anyonone notice how his hair had grown out and he'd lost some weight? :)

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 12:21 PM

I was thinking the other day about the whole 'tracking Mr White' thing as well......how could Bond have instantly tracked him from using his phone number alone? Just the number, without apparently calling him and establishing a connection until just before he shoots him? I'm going with the 'it took Bond a couple of years' theory too.

#8 Zorin Industries

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 12:46 PM

Two words for you all.... "poetic" and "licence".

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 01:17 PM

So it has taken Bond two years in the time of tracking down White to get over the death of Vesper,I'm sure he would have been assigned other missions within this time to just get over it.

I think the continuity issue was never thought or discussed properly by the film makers. Just a small detail that even I did not even think about until seeing this thread.

#10 MattofSteel

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 01:46 PM

Also, who cares?

#11 sharpshooter

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 01:57 PM

Also, who cares?

I don't particularly.

#12 Invincible1958

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 01:57 PM

Right. Who cares?

When you watch CR, the events are set in 2006.
When you watch QOS, even the CR events are set in 2008.

It's not important for the story. Never ever was a date of year important for the story of a Bond film.

#13 MattofSteel

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 02:30 PM

If we really worried about timelines so strictly, I don't see how any Bond fan could get a wink of sleep at night trying to figure out how the 30 year-old Connery in the early 60s was the same Bond as the 40 year-old Brosnan in the mid 90s.

I've always watched the Bond films independent of time, in that sense. I just accept that there was "Cold War films," Brosnan's "post cold war films," and now Craig's era. If they stamped an invitation with "2006" visibly in this film, the casual viewer would just be, like, "what?"

#14 Zorin Industries

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 02:33 PM

If we really worried about timelines so strictly, I don't see how any Bond fan could get a wink of sleep at night trying to figure out how the 30 year-old Connery in the early 60s was the same Bond as the 40 year-old Brosnan in the mid 90s.

I've always watched the Bond films independent of time, in that sense. I just accept that there was "Cold War films," Brosnan's "post cold war films," and now Craig's era. If they stamped an invitation with "2006" visibly in this film, the casual viewer would just be, like, "what?"

And it would date the film instantly.

#15 DamnCoffee

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Posted 16 November 2008 - 07:11 PM

Anyone else notice Mathis' line in Italian, "This man had me tortured and imprisoned". M said at the end of Casino Royale, "Well, atleast this clears Mathis", which suggests that he was still imprisoned by the end of Casino Royale. How long do you think it would of taken Bond to track down White? REMEMBER that he had his phone number.

#16 mccartney007

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Posted 16 November 2008 - 07:15 PM

you've just ruined the film for me

#17 DamnCoffee

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Posted 16 November 2008 - 07:19 PM

Well, this is in the spoiler section.

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Posted 16 November 2008 - 07:46 PM

Anyone else notice Mathis' line in Italian, "This man had me tortured and imprisoned". M said at the end of Casino Royale, "Well, atleast this clears Mathis", which suggests that he was still imprisoned by the end of Casino Royale. How long do you think it would of taken Bond to track down White? REMEMBER that he had his phone number.


Exactly. And we're even shown how phones were tracked by Bond earlier in CR.

Every Bond movie is set 'now', on-screen dates are there because you have to put something there. Add to this discussion the heavy implication that Bond hasn't slept since he lost Vesper and we're looking at a tight turnaround from the collapse of the house to the shooting of White.

It means Mathis was tortured, cleared and given a house in a day or two...but I'll love with that on 'It's only a movie' grounds.

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Posted 16 November 2008 - 08:06 PM

Timeline:

Aug. 2006 - Vesper dies.
Aug. 12, 2008 - Bond shoots Mr. White, drives to Sienna, all hell breaks loose.


Why the gap? I think Bond and MI6 could track White, but they probably needed to figure out who he was (the trail had gone cold according the M when she spoke to Bond after Vesper drowned), see if they could gain anything from merely shadowing him (ah, but as we see at the Opera, the Quantum members don't all necessarily gather together - despite some being at the Greeene Planet event in Bolivia). So they may have finally decided to bring White in (in a rather brutal way, IMHO). I mean they had to have time to get Bond a new car, after all.

I can buy it. The change of suits is a bit stranger.

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