52 replies to this topic

[Cruiserweight]

So what happens to Mr.Greene anyway?

Does he buy the farm at the end of the film & if so.
How?

[DamnCoffee]

Spoiler

Bond leaves Greene in the middle of the desert with a mangled foot. Greene says that he has told Bond eveything he knows regarding 'Quantum', and Bond said he would let him go. Bond sticks to his word and throws a can of Motor Oil at Greene, telling him that he will last for around 20 miles before he considers drinking it. Bond drives off and leaves Greene. It is later revealed by M that Greene was found dead in the middle of the desert with two bullets in the back of his head and a stomach full of motor oil.

Hope that helps.

[MkB]

Honestly, it's better to see by yourself.

If you really wan to:

Spoiler

yes, he buys the farm. He has a most original end for a Bond Villai, and it's very nicely done.

By the way, if we start deiscussing it,

Spoiler

It is later revealed by M that Greene was found dead in the middle of the desert with two bullets in the back of his head and a stomach full of motor oil.

Spoiler

I guess we're supposed to think Quantum finally found Greene in the desert (after 20 miles ) and disposed of him?

[Cruiserweight]

Spoiler

Bond leaves Greene in the middle of the desert with a mangled foot. Greene says that he has told Bond eveything he knows regarding 'Quantum', and Bond said he would let him go. Bond sticks to his word and throws a can of Motor Oil at Greene, telling him that he will last for around 20 miles before he considers drinking it. Bond drives off and leaves Greene. It is later revealed by M that Greene was found dead in the middle of the desert with two bullets in the back of his head and a stomach full of motor oil.

Hope that helps.

Dominic Greene is already my new favorite villain of the series so exscuse me if my paitence doesn't allow me to wait for the film to open here in the United States. But with that answer i have another question.

Spoiler

Who are we to think shot Dominic Greene? I would have thought suicide but if he was shot in the back of the head it couldn't be that.If it was Quantum why would they shoot one of their own members? He wasn't in debt to them like Le Chiffre was.Just because he gave info to Bond?

[MkB]

See my post just above, Cruiserweight

Spoiler

There's no direct hint, but Quantum disposing à la Spectre of a useless Greene who has failed is the logical explanation.

[DamnCoffee]

"This organisation does not tolerate failure!"

[Cruiserweight]

"This organisation does not tolerate failure!"

Damn them to hell!

Spoiler

If that's the case then.If Quantum keeps going up against bond they won't have many agents left.

[CaptainPower]

"This organisation does not tolerate failure!"

Damn them to hell!

Spoiler

If that's the case then.If Quantum keeps going up against bond they won't have many agents left.

But..

Spoiler

They have people everywhere

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

While we're at it I figure I should ask what happens to the other villains? From the sound of things aside from Greene so far there aren't really any other creative or interesting demises like Carlos or Gettler in Royale. Exactly how does Medrano meet his end? And how big a role is his henchmen, Lt Orso and do we see how that character is dispatched? I figure the corrupt bolivian police chief is inside that exploding Jeep seen in the trailers.

Edited by Agent Spriggan Ominae, 02 November 2008 - 01:53 AM.

[Vauxhall]

Medrano is shot by Camille, the Chief of Police is shot by Bond, and I'm not really sure about Lieutenant Orso (who does absolutely nothing of use in the whole film), although he is probably blown up in the Perla de las Dunas garage.

[sharpshooter]

Greene's demise is one of the best of any Bond villain in concept I think. I'll dying to see the execution of it, so to speak.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Medrano is shot by Camille, the Chief of Police is shot by Bond, and I'm not really sure about Lieutenant Orso (who does absolutely nothing of use in the whole film), although he is probably blown up in the Perla de las Dunas garage.

Interesting. I had been thinking that Medrano should have had a more horrific demise given the nature of his character and that they're fighting in rapidly burning building. Could have been something along the lines of Sanchez. But Greene's end more than makes up for it!

[Fozzco]

I was disappointed with Greene's demise - a deleted scene had a helicopter saving Greene from the desert - I think this would have been a better outcome - which would have left it open to whether they wanted Greene to return in a future film.

[Vauxhall]

I was disappointed with Greene's demise - a deleted scene had a helicopter saving Greene from the desert - I think this would have been a better outcome - which would have left it open to whether they wanted Greene to return in a future film.

Do we know that for a fact, or is that based on the review from IMDB by 'YOLT'?

[marktmurphy]

Greene's demise is one of the best of any Bond villain in concept I think. I'll dying to see the execution of it, so to speak.

It is a good scene and a good concept of a death. I'm afraid that I had no idea what the can threw at him was, but luckily M explains that for us later.

It's really one of the nastiest things Bond has ever done.

[Fozzco]

It's really one of the nastiest things Bond has ever done.
[/quote]

Yes...but who put two bullets in the back of his head?

[Cruiserweight]

I guess we're supposed to think that it members of Quantum that shot Greene.
Or at least that's what i've been told.

[Captain Tightpants]

I was disappointed with Greene's demise - a deleted scene had a helicopter saving Greene from the desert - I think this would have been a better outcome - which would have left it open to whether they wanted Greene to return in a future film.

Do we know that for a fact, or is that based on the review from IMDB by 'YOLT'?

Possibly from that YOLT character. However, if there was a deleed scene that involved a helicopter, it was probably the helicopter coming to kill Greene, but it would cut before he was killed to look like he was being saved. We'd either be told later in QUANTUM OF SOLACE that he was actually shot, or they'd carry it over to BOND 23.

[DamnCoffee]

It would be interesting if Bond went back and did the deed himself, whilst forcing him to drink the Oil.

[sharpshooter]

It would be interesting if Bond went back and did the deed himself, whilst forcing him to drink the Oil.

Yeah, though I think it is better implied Quantum agents did it. It creates more mystery, and having Greene resort to drinking oil on his own part is just the ultimate revenge.

[Bureau Of Weapons]

I'd have liked Greene to have appeared in another film but it was inevitable that Quantum would dispose of him given that he'd spilled the beans about Yusef to Bond - and cost them their leak in Canadian intelligence.

[thecasinoroyale]

It'd be a pretty old hearted ba***rd who leaves a man stranded in the desert with nothing but motor oil.

A dark move by Bond, but at least he didn't kill him with his own hands.

And yes...Quantum are still out there hence the bullets in the head.

Is there a Quantum connection with colour? Or is this a coincidence...Mr.White, Mr.Greene...who's next?!

[MkB]

Is there a Quantum connection with colour? Or is this a coincidence...Mr.White, Mr.Greene...who's next?!

It was a theory among fans during production. There's also a Mr. Slate (slate = +/- greyish). Hopefully, it's just a coincidence. I wouldn't like a colour codename theory.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Is there a Quantum connection with colour? Or is this a coincidence...Mr.White, Mr.Greene...who's next?!

It was a theory among fans during production. There's also a Mr. Slate (slate = +/- greyish). Hopefully, it's just a coincidence. I wouldn't like a colour codename theory.

It's more then a theroy. The actor who plays Slate said on his Myspace blog the chartacter he played was named Mr. Black before it was changed to Slate and Dominic Greene was "Maurice Greene" at one point so I think there was something more to it then speculation.

[MkB]

Wow... So I really hope they dumped the theory during production, hence the Black -> Slate change of name It's such a Tarantino-ish idea!

[stromberg]

It's such a Tarantino-ish idea!

And even he stole it from 'Pelham 1-2-3'

[DamnCoffee]

Ah, I can just imagine the reviews next time round. Bourne won't be the problem....

Licence to Kill Bill!!
The Hildrebrand Rarity is more Tarantino than 007!

[BoogieBond]

Yes at the end Bond states Quantum will know Greene talked, so they will be after Greene. Natural conclusion that he was executed by them. Bond giving him a can of motor oil in the dessert was a nasty touch of retribution for Fields for me. I don't know how others feel, but I felt Qos gave the impression that Mr White is higher up in the organisation than first thought.

[Aces High]

I thought that Greene was one of the worst 007 baddies,totally without menace or presence.Same to be said of the henchmen who look & act like failed nighclub bouncers.Mr White come across as the most sinister person in the movie.For goodness sake Strawberry Fields does more harm to the henchman that 007,at least she puts him in a neckbrace!!
This of course is for me why Quantum fails to deliver,the enemy is not so threatening.So for me Kamal Khan is no longer the weakest of the 007 villians!

[Cruiserweight]

I thought that Greene was one of the worst 007 baddies,totally without menace or presence.Same to be said of the henchmen who look & act like failed nighclub bouncers.Mr White come across as the most sinister person in the movie.For goodness sake Strawberry Fields does more harm to the henchman that 007,at least she puts him in a neckbrace!!
This of course is for me why Quantum fails to deliver,the enemy is not so threatening.So for me Kamal Khan is no longer the weakest of the 007 villians!

Weakest bond villain=Georgi Koskov