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[ForMathis]

This thread contains spoilers for Quantum of Solace.

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As we all know, the original ending intended for Quantum of Solace as filmed by director Marc Forster was cut.

This ending would have featured the return of Mr.White in a scene that is the reverse of the ending of CR. While this will most definitely be an extra on the DVD, if you had your way would you make it:

1) an extra on the DVD
2) Release a 'Directors CUT' with the scene reinstated
3) Have the scene be used at the start of Bond 23


Either was Bond 23 is faced with the challenge of tying up the loose ends of what happened to White. But perhaps a different approach would be better as this ending being used as a PTS would alienate the part of the audience who hasn't seen QoS.

I personally vote either "Extended DVD" - have Bond 23 continue from that, or, "Have the scene be used IN Bond 23"

Your opinions?

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EDIT: Sorry, I do not know how to make a poll or I would have added one...

Edited by ForMathis, 21 October 2008 - 10:30 PM.

[bondrules]

I want the whole enchilada altogether.....130 mns pretty plz

Edited by bondrules, 21 October 2008 - 06:34 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

I would actually like a Directors Cut of Quantum of Solace, for the DVD release. All of the missing footage included.

[dee-bee-five]

This thread contains spoilers for Quantum of Solace.

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As we all know, the original ending intended for Quantum of Solace as filmed by director Marc Forster was cut.

This ending would have featured the return of Mr.White in a scene that is the reverse of the ending of CR. While this will most definitely be an extra on the DVD, if you had your way would you make it:

1) an extra on the DVD
2) Release a "Directors CUT with the scene reinstated
3) Have the scene be used at the start of Bond 23

None of the above. It sounds a gimmick they wisely decided not to go with.

[ForMathis]

None of the above. It sounds a gimmick they wisely decided not to go with.

Was the ending of FRWL (novel) a gimmick too?

Is tying up loose ends (then creating some...) and showing what happened to Mr.White a gimmick?

Also, you have chosen "DVD extra"

[dee-bee-five]

None of the above. It sounds a gimmick they wisely decided not to go with.

Was the ending of FRWL (novel) a gimmick too?

Is tying up loose ends (then creating some...) and showing what happened to Mr.White a gimmick?

In answer to your first question, actually, yes, I've always found it to be so. And Fleming once cheerfully admitted to it in an interview.

In answer to your second question(s), no, they wouldn't be - in a TV soap or long-running TV series, that is.

[mccartney007]

I think they should have just left it in. I think the idea of a trilogy of sorts is a very good idea.

Or they could just chuck it on to the beginning of the next one.

[Vauxhall]

I'd ideally like an extended version of QUANTUM OF SOLACE on DVD (maybe alongside an extended CASINO ROYALE with the long pre-title sequence left in... nudge nudge EON!)

I wouldn't mind them recycling the White/Bond confrontation for BOND 23 though. Depends what the context of the scene is of course!

[ForMathis]

With Quantum officialy returning in Bond 23, I wonder why they cut this scene. Perhaphs it will be reinstated when the DVD comes out?

What this of a long Title Sequence for Casino Royale? I've never heard of it, loved the one in the movie.

[SolidWaffle]

It would actually fit great for the start of B23. I really don't want a cliffhanger ending... I find that Bond is a good place to avoid cliffhangers. Like I said in a different thread, I don't want an episode of 24 (not Bond 24).

Edited by SolidWaffle, 21 October 2008 - 10:20 PM.

[Vauxhall]

What this of a long Title Sequence for Casino Royale? I've never heard of it, loved the one in the movie.

It's a deleted scene on the new DVD, featuring Bond stalking Fisher through a cricket ground in Pakistan before killing him in the bathroom as we see. Very cool.

[Pierce - Daniel]

I think EON may follow the Connery model, and make a Bond film without Quantum next, a la Goldfinger. Not to say they won't return, just not yet imo. I hope they don't I like the idea, also I can't see Craig's Bond being too committed to any cause unless his heart is truly invested, he has a real reason to hate Quantum, so keep them in. But don't dragg them out, Bond should destroy them. I hope Mr. White survives the entire ordeal, I like the idea of keeping one man who was connected to the organization from the very begginning to the very end. It gives the whole thing more cohesion, like it was always meant to be like this.

[ForMathis]

It would actually fit great for the start of B23. I really don't want a cliffhanger ending... I find that Bond is a good place to avoid cliffhangers. Like I said in a different thread, I don't want an episode of 24 (not Bond 24).

Yea, that would be interesting. Instead of an action driven PTS we get this short scene focusing more on tension/dialog similar in style to the Casino Royale PTS only reversed(gun pointed at Bond)

Another way they could go about this is that at the end of Bond 23, after Bond has disposed of his non-Quantum affiliated enemy we have a variation of this scene. Tying all three films together and setting up Bond 24 as 'Bond vs. Quantum (and white)'.

That would be something I would be very happy with, of course it is a cliffhanger so... you probably wouldn't like it.

Edited by ForMathis, 22 October 2008 - 01:53 AM.

[00Twelve]

While I felt really impressed by the ending of the FRWL novel, I can't help but feel that it would be inherently flaccid as an ending for a Bond movie. There's gonna be a next one. No suspense there.

As for this apparent "original" ending, it sounds like the one they're going with is going to be much better. I, for one, am much more interested in how Bond proceeds on that front.

[trevanian]

yes, I've always found it to be so. And Fleming once cheerfully admitted to it in an interview.

This one is news to me. I thought the story was that Fleming intended to kill Bond off in FRWL, hence that ending. Is that apocryphal?

[sorking]

I would actually like a Directors Cut of Quantum of Solace, for the DVD release. All of the missing footage included.

It's only a director's cut if the director isn't happy with the version that's been released, and we have no reason to think Forster isn't satisfied with the edit going into cinemas.

I like extended cuts when they're creatively valid - hello Lord of the Rings - but those are special instances and don't apply to everything. Eon are showing considerable strength in keeping every film 'definitive' rather than embracing a profitable fad, and I'm perfectly happy with that.

I would like to see the cut scenes on DVD, though, as I think they're interesting curios which provide an important insight in the filmmaker process, the transition from script to shoot to edit. Sadly, if CR, DAD, TWINE, TND and GoldenEye are anything to go by, we're likely to see only selected highlights, if anything at all. (Forster actually hasn't been quoted as saying the ending will be on the DVD at all - it was assumed by the journalist.)

Edited by sorking, 23 October 2008 - 10:11 PM.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I first off wanna say so long as i walk out of the theater wanting bond 23 to happen tommrow I'm Happy.

I want to consider myself luck as thus far I actually loved everything of Craig's Era.

Casino Royale Top Notch

Quantum of Solace Looks to be amazing.

Even Another Way to die has grown on me to the point that listeing to it right now I'm happy (well there goes any friends i was hoping to make lol)


As for Bond 23 (Risico/The Hildebrand Rarity/007 in New York/ The Property of a Lady/ Shatterhand) I would love seeing the alternate ending of Quantum of Solace open up Bond 23. with basically a You only live twice kind of beginign Bond and White Discuss things White shoots Bond we see bond clutching his shoulder Mr white Smiles and says "you deserve a slow death" cue titles.


However I also see the current ending as "gripping" as the alternate ending in both instances the audience clearly will ask ok so bond stays on What will happen Next? What Does Yusef Know?

where as with the alternate ending audiences will ask

Is This the last bond film? Is Bond really Dead?


In both Cases I end up a happy bond fan

[ForMathis]

Just so we are clear.

WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS ENDING CONSISTED OF

Bond getting shot is just fan speculation, all we know is that it featured Mr.White, a character that inexplicably disappears mid-way through QoS. And that the ending would have forced EON to make this )CR, QoS, B23) a trilogy.

[ForMathis]

Is this ending on the DVD?

[Bucky]

no

[Craig is 007]

It would be brilliant if the original ending sequence for Quantum Of Solace would be the pre-titles for Bond 23.