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[doubler83]

I know it's been linked to already in the Daily Mail review thread, but I thought I'd give it a thread of its own so it doesn't get buried.

Quantum of Solace fails to raise a smile.

[DamnCoffee]

Another ing Bourne reference.

Jeez.

Sunday Express is tabloid trash aswell.

He’s virtually out of control, whacking villains here and there – even, accidentally, a British secret agent, a mistake that appears to cause him no remorse.

He's angry and he's lost his lover.

Craig is good again and convincing in the many action scenes but you are desperate for him to crack a smile or a joke.

He's angry and he's lost his lover - I wouldn't be smiling.

And the quote...

The action is fast and realistic but is almost too in-your-face.

Contradicts the previus quote...

Bond rarely gets in a tight spot

Unlike Jason Bourne, Bond knows who he is so there’s no point trying to turn him into anyone else.

Oh off!

[The Dove]

the Sunday Express, Daily Mail and whatever other tabloid crap has been written about Quantum of Solace..

[Matt_13]

Still haven't read a review that has turned me off from this movie yet. All the cons that I've read are pros in my book. And after seeing the Bond-Fields exchange at the airport, I find it very hard to believe there is no wit.

[DamnCoffee]

I would really like to see their reviews for Die Another Day.

And, the thing about no humour... I've seen enough in the TV Spots and Clips.

[doubler83]

the Sunday Express, Daily Mail and whatever other tabloid crap has been written about Quantum of Solace..

Yep, let's just ignore all the negative reviews because they don't fall in line with what we all expect from the film.

[Germanlady]

the Sunday Express, Daily Mail and whatever other tabloid crap has been written about Quantum of Solace..

Yep, let's just ignore all the negative reviews because they don't fall in line with what we all expect from the film.

That would be a smart move, as tabloids are made to trash and they do their job.
Why would we want to ignore the fact, that 90% of the serious critics love/like the film AS well as the members of these and other boards.

[iexpectu2die]

Now lets not overdo the fan-boy thing - we haven't seen the film and they have. But I agree with Mharkin in that I've seen lots of comedy in the trailers and tv spots, and other reviews have said that QoS has some genuinely funny moments.

Looks like QoS is getting a similar press reaction to LTK in some areas. Well I love LTK!

[deth]

the Sunday Express, Daily Mail and whatever other tabloid crap has been written about Quantum of Solace..

Yep, let's just ignore all the negative reviews because they don't fall in line with what we all expect from the film.

That would be a smart move, as tabloids are made to trash and they do their job.
Why would we want to ignore the fact, that 90% of the serious critics love/like the film AS well as the members of these and other boards.

we haven't seen even close to 90% of the serious critics reviews yet.

[DamnCoffee]

Also another thing to note: Bond and the Press have a love/hate relationship. The press suggest somethig, EON dismiss it. The press bring it up again. Eon dismiss it. Press see the movie, they decide to get their revenge on EON.

The press are out and out bastards, nearly everything Bond related they get erong. This is no exception.

[HildebrandRarity]

Q0S better not have that soooo-2003 Shakey-Cam business going on or i'm gonna be ing pissed!

[Royal Dalton]

Also another thing to note: Bond and the Press have a love/hate relationship. The press suggest somethig, EON dismiss it. The press bring it up again. Eon dismiss it. Press see the movie, they decide to get their revenge on EON.

The press are out and out bastards, nearly everything Bond related they get erong. This is no exception.

How do you know it's wrong? You haven't even seen the film yet.

[DamnCoffee]

I did say that nearly everthing is wrong they publish. Quantum of Solace being no exception. I.e. It might be true, but I wouldn't bet on it.

AND The press seem to publish negative things just to be different.

[SolidWaffle]

I'm seeing humor in the trailers and such. It's dry, subtle, like in CR. I expected less humor in QOS compared to CR. But no matter what nobody should expect Daniel Craig to pull a Roger Moore.

EDIT: To comment on the shaky-cam: Most people don't like it, but I do. It brings a more visceral tone to the action. It kinda is hard to follow, but most of us will see the movie more than once.

Edited by SolidWaffle, 19 October 2008 - 05:50 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

Also, I've just read another review that said that...

Spoiler

M tries to wake up the Foreign Secretary!

Now, that has to be funny.

[Royal Dalton]

I did say that nearly everthing is wrong they publish. Quantum of Solace being no exception. I.e. It might be true, but I wouldn't bet on it.

AND The press seem to publish negative things just to be different.

Well, just try to be a bit more objective about it. This film could be great. But it could just as easily turn out to be a complete turkey.

Also, I've just read another review that said that...

Spoiler

M tries to wake up the Foreign Secretary!

Now, that has to be funny.

Metaphorically, not literally.

[CM007]

Also another thing to note: Bond and the Press have a love/hate relationship. The press suggest somethig, EON dismiss it. The press bring it up again. Eon dismiss it. Press see the movie, they decide to get their revenge on EON.

The press are out and out bastards, nearly everything Bond related they get erong. This is no exception.

You really talk out of that thing you sit on....Daniel Craigs honeymoon is over and right now a dour,sombreangry,pee´d off Bourne clone is not what people want...the want escapisim.ALA DIE ANOTHER DAY

[Vauxhall]

You really talk out of that thing you sit on....Daniel Craigs honeymoon is over and right now a dour,sombreangry,pee´d off Bourne clone is not what people want...the want escapisim.ALA DIE ANOTHER DAY

Who are these "people" you talk of? I think I can honestly say that I have never heard of anyone genuinely believing DIE ANOTHER DAY is a superior (or more enjoyable) movie to CASINO ROYALE, so I assume the people you've spoken to are some sort of special niche in society.

[Germanlady]

You really talk out of that thing you sit on....Daniel Craigs honeymoon is over and right now a dour,sombreangry,pee´d off Bourne clone is not what people want...the want escapisim.ALA DIE ANOTHER DAY

Who are these "people" you talk of? I think I can honestly say that I have never heard of anyone genuinely believing DIE ANOTHER DAY is a superior (or more enjoyable) movie to CASINO ROYALE, so I assume the people you've spoken to are some sort of special niche in society.

I think, what he meant was, that he believes, people want escapisim in the way of stupid movies, like DAD

the Sunday Express, Daily Mail and whatever other tabloid crap has been written about Quantum of Solace..

Yep, let's just ignore all the negative reviews because they don't fall in line with what we all expect from the film.

That would be a smart move, as tabloids are made to trash and they do their job.
Why would we want to ignore the fact, that 90% of the serious critics love/like the film AS well as the members of these and other boards.

we haven't seen even close to 90% of the serious critics reviews yet.

I was referring - of course - to those we DO have - even if its only a few. This can - of course - turn out one way or another, but to get a first opinion, I believe its way smarter to follow the serious press and people on here, who have seen it. Doesn´t theat make sense to you?

[Blonde Bond]

Still haven't read a review that has turned me off from this movie yet. All the cons that I've read are pros in my book. And after seeing the Bond-Fields exchange at the airport, I find it very hard to believe there is no wit.

... or charm.

Honestly, most of these reviewers keep complaining that it doesn't feel like a Bond film. Okay, for what little of I have seen it does feel like a Bond film. Just not your typical clichéd Bond movie with Q, Moneypenny , gadgets or Bond firing one-liners every other minute.

I'm kinda excited we get the other kind of Bond movies as well.

[doubler83]

If this review had given the movie 5 stars, everybody would be saying "brilliant", "fantastic", "great review", "made me feel so much better", etc...

Same with the Daily Mail review too. If they'd given it 4 or 5 stars would you still be saying "tabloid trash"? Imagine your respectable Empire magazine had all over this movie? Everybody would have been saying "Empire? Bah, movie magazine. Don't know what they're talking about".

There's a level of fanboyism on these boards that is off the charts. Some people need to realise that they could be extremely disappointed with this movie.

[ElFenomeno]

neah.this movie is like a combination of FRWL and Jesus.

[kneelbeforezod]

If this review had given the movie 5 stars, everybody would be saying "brilliant", "fantastic", "great review", "made me feel so much better", etc...

Same with the Daily Mail review too. If they'd given it 4 or 5 stars would you still be saying "tabloid trash"? Imagine your respectable Empire magazine had all over this movie? Everybody would have been saying "Empire? Bah, movie magazine. Don't know what they're talking about".

There's a level of fanboyism on these boards that is off the charts. Some people need to realise that they could be extremely disappointed with this movie.

I have to agree. While I don't believe in putting too much emphasis on any one review, taken collectively, there are a number of people for whom this film just didn't work. It didn't capture their hearts the way CR did. And that's a shame.

That said, I agree with some of the others that a few of the criticisms don't sound like problems to me (a mean, serious Bond; vicious action etc).

[doubler83]

I'd really like to read the Admiral's review of the film. He gave it 4/10. Wonder what the problems were.

[DamnCoffee]

Yes. I'm interested to read this aswell.

Infact, that's my only worry about QOS for me... an established CBn member has Casino Royale as his favorite movie and yet ranks Quantum of Solace to low. It's obvious he's not a Craig basher, to there must be some major problems with it.

[doubler83]

Yes. I'm interested to read this aswell.

Infact, that's my only worry about QOS for me... an established CBn member has Casino Royale as his favorite movie and yet ranks Quantum of Solace to low. It's obvious he's not a Craig basher, to there must be some major problems with it.

Maybe he had it up at 8 or 9, then found the gunbarrel at the end and it plummeted to 4.

[solace]

The 'new bond' isnt a gag man like moore. Their isnt going to be a "I think he got the point" moment because that isnt craigs bond. For me Bond is totally p***** off and looking for someone to shove down a toilet. Why do we need humour? This Bond is more like the Bond of the novels. Hardcase and a killer. The Bond in CR was the rebirth of bond. I think this film will be about how bleak the character can get before humanity kicks in, and so to Bond 23. The reviewer from the BBC said that this felt like the dark part of a trilogy and I reckon thats exactly what it is.

[DamnCoffee]

I agree.

It's like the Temple of Doom to Raiders.

[kneelbeforezod]

I agree.

It's like the Temple of Doom to Raiders.

Now that's an interesting comparison! I'd be happy with that

[Satorious]

Using the Indy model, does that mean we'll get a fun light-weight Bond 23, and a truly diabolical Bond 24 from Craig then?

I agree with the "overly-fan-boy" comments here. I admit I can be just as guilty of this at times - but some people are praising things to lofty proportions, incredible considering they haven't yet seen the film. More worryingly some are slamming any neigh-sayers who dare to challenge them or their clique with a concern or alternate opinion. Of course I want this film to be great and I'm not going to base my opinions on a single review (yeah, some of the reviewers are hacks, but let's not forget these are the types of people who could make or break this film) - I will make up my own mind up on the film. Likewise, I do not necessarily have to buy into everything EON is feeding us all the time, and if I think they got it wrong - well I'm going to voice it. I was hoping for stronger QOS reviews, based on the type of reviews we were getting for CR. I can't say this doesn't disappoint me a bit, but it does mean I will be going in with more realistic expectations (hopefully meaning that I will enjoy the film more).