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Guardian review of QoS


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#1 mkkbb

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Posted 18 October 2008 - 03:03 AM

Just found this. 3/5 stars, said it's heavy on action, very light on wit/comedy, and not as ground-breaking as Casino Royale.

http://www.guardian....t/18/jamesbond1

Lol, just noticed I put the title as "Telegraph" instead of "Guardian".

Edited by Jim, 18 October 2008 - 08:16 AM.


#2 Mister E

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Posted 18 October 2008 - 03:05 AM

Just found this. 3/5 stars, said it's heavy on action, very light on wit/comedy, and not as ground-breaking as Casino Royale.

http://www.guardian....t/18/jamesbond1


Thankfully that is just two so-so reviews as of now.

#3 dinovelvet

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Posted 18 October 2008 - 03:43 AM

Noted, but...its The Guardian, so...yeah.

The same reviewer gave CR 4/5, but didn't seem to dislike anything about it, so its a little odd.

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Posted 18 October 2008 - 08:11 AM

It just isn't as good - let's just face it chaps! I'll give it a chance like everyone - but it sounds like we're heading back into the Brosnan model of over-action. I am frankly really disappointed by these reviews - and I'll be pointing the finger squarely at Forster is this doesn't measure up.

#5 Jim

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Posted 18 October 2008 - 08:15 AM

It just isn't as good - let's just face it chaps! I'll give it a chance like everyone - but it sounds like we're heading back into the Brosnan model of over-action. I am frankly really disappointed by these reviews - and I'll be pointing the finger squarely at Forster is this doesn't measure up.


I bet he's trembling.

#6 sharpshooter

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Posted 18 October 2008 - 08:24 AM

I love action in Bond films. If done well, give me a lot of it. I'll be the judge if it is done well, not a reviewer.

#7 Satorious

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Posted 18 October 2008 - 08:31 AM

He was responsible for the style/story direction etc. I'm sure he doesn't care one way or the other.

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Posted 18 October 2008 - 08:43 AM

It just isn't as good - let's just face it chaps! I'll give it a chance like everyone - but it sounds like we're heading back into the Brosnan model of over-action. I am frankly really disappointed by these reviews - and I'll be pointing the finger squarely at Forster is this doesn't measure up.


Ehh...Bond probably punches someone, and the Guardian will claim it was "too much action".

For me, Casino Royale is the Best Bond Film Ever ™. I'd love for QOS to be even better, but I don't think that's realistic. But its already obvious it isn't TWINE/DAD II either.

#9 DamnCoffee

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 08:23 AM



He's back. Daniel Craig allays any fear that he was just a one-Martini Bond, with this, his second 007 adventure, the perplexingly named Quantum Of Solace.

I've got to admit that this didn't excite me as much as Casino Royale and the villain is especially underpowered. But Craig personally has the chops, as they say in Hollywood. He's made the part his own, every inch the coolly ruthless agent-:(-killer, nursing a broken heart and coldly suppressed rage. If the Savile Row suit with the Beretta shoulder holster fits, wear it. And he's wearing it.

This is a crash-bang Bond, high on action, low on quips, long on location glamour, short on product placement.

Under the direction of Marc Forster, the movie ladles out the adrenalin in a string of deafening episodes: car chases, plane wrecks, motor boat collisions. If it's got an engine, and runs on fuel, and can crash into another similarly powered vehicle, with Bond at the wheel, and preferably with a delicious female companion in the passenger seat - well, it goes in the movie.

There are plenty of references to other Bond moments. A horribly dangerous skydive recalls The Spy Who Loved Me. A pile-up in Haiti which spills a macabre lorryload of coffins recalls the voodoo creepiness of Live And Let Die. And, most outrageously of all, the grotesque daubing of a female corpse brings back Goldfinger - though Sean Connery got an awful lot more mileage out of that sort of thing.

As in Casino Royale, the famous John Barry theme tune is saved up until the end; a baffling, decision, I always think, not to use this thrilling music at the beginning of the film.

Bond has hardly got his 007 spurs, when he's infuriating M, Judi Dench, with his insolence and insubordination. Out in the field, he's whacking enemy agents in short, sharp, bone-cracking bursts of violence when he should be bringing them in for questioning.

In theory, he is out to nail a sinister international business type: Dominic Greene, played by French star Mathieu Amalric, who under a spurious ecological cover plans to buy up swaths of South American desert and a portfolio of Latin American governments to control the water supply of an entire continent. As Greene, Amalric has the maddest eyes, creepiest leer, and dodgiest teeth imaginable.

Clearly, Bond has to take this fellow down. But he also wants to track down the man who took his beloved Vesper away from him in the previous movie: he is pathologically seeking payback, and to the fury of his superiors, this is getting personal. But it hasn't stopped him cultivating female company in the traditional, fantastically supercilious manner. His companions are as demurely submissive as ever. Olga Kurylenko plays Camille, a mysterious, smouldering figure, out to wreak vengeance on the corrupt Bolivian dictators who killed her family.

Britain's Gemma Arterton plays Agent Fields; she greets 007 wearing a trenchcoat with apparently little underneath, like some sort of MI6 strippogram. And she is the recipient of his ardour in the luxury hotel suite - that quintessential Bond habitat. This movie is, in fact, a reminder of how vital hotels are in Bond films, providing the essential narrative grammar: the checking in, the fight with the stranger in the room, the messages left at reception, the luxury cars lovingly photographed outside.

I was disappointed there was so little dialogue, flirtation and characterisation in this Bond: Forster and his writers Paul Haggis, Neal Purvis and Robert Wade clearly thought this sort of sissy nonsense has to be cut out in favour of explosions. Well, perhaps that is what Bond fans want (not this Bond fan, though). But I was also baffled that relatively little was made of the deliciously villainous Amalric: especially the final encounter.

But set against this is the cool, cruel presence of Craig - his lips perpetually semi-pursed, as if savouring some new nastiness his opponents intend to dish out to him, and the nastiness he intends to dish out in return. This film, unlike the last, doesn't show him in his powder-blue swimming trunks (the least heterosexual image in 007 history), but it's a very physical performance. Quantum of Solace isn't as good as Casino Royale: the smart elegance of Craig's Bond debut has been toned down in favour of conventional action. But the man himself powers this movie; he carries the film: it's an indefinably difficult task for an actor. Craig measures up.




I really love the fact that every single review that we have read, (Positive or Negative) has praised Craigs acting style. :)

#10 Jim

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 08:27 AM

Please don't create multiple threads for exactly the same sodding thing.

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 04:14 PM

It just isn't as good - let's just face it chaps! I'll give it a chance like everyone - but it sounds like we're heading back into the Brosnan model of over-action. I am frankly really disappointed by these reviews - and I'll be pointing the finger squarely at Forster is this doesn't measure up.


I bet he's trembling.


Why? QoS will be a financial success and that's all that really matters, from a producer's point of view.

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 04:47 PM

This film is a Bond niche film - it is there to follow up on Casino Royale. To do this, he needs to kick some serious :(. It appears that he will do this. This is why I will watch Casino Royale with some friends right before we see the film on 11/14. After CR and QOS Bond will have transformed into what we originally knew him as. This isn't a Bond movie for comedy. It's filling a niche.

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 05:59 PM

"long on location glamour, short on product placement."

That's what I call back to basics. A YOLT/FRWL type film is waiting us I think.

#14 Mr_Wint

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 06:04 PM

"long on location glamour, short on product placement."

That's what I call back to basics. A YOLT/FRWL type film is waiting us I think.

Nice to hear that it is "short on product placement". I was a little bit worried about this (especially after CR).

A "YOLT/FRWL type film"? To me, that can be just about anything :(

#15 YOLT

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 07:17 PM

"long on location glamour, short on product placement."

That's what I call back to basics. A YOLT/FRWL type film is waiting us I think.

Nice to hear that it is "short on product placement". I was a little bit worried about this (especially after CR).

A "YOLT/FRWL type film"? To me, that can be just about anything :(


I mean using the locations wisely.