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#61 Harmsway

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 05:59 PM

When Greene says "My friends call me Dominic", Bond's reply of "I'm sure they do" is a cheeky way of drawing attention to the fact that Greene has just stated the blindingly obvious. Because what else would friends of a man called Dominic Greene call him other than Dominic?

That seems a bit literal to me.

The expression "My friends call me (insert christian name)" is a common one, it's Greene's way of saying "you can call me Dominic". Surely, as others have said, Bond's response is a snarky way of saying that he has no interest in getting pally with him. As in "I'm sure your friends do call you Dominic; I, on the other hand, will call you Greene/Naughty Man/Bum Features etc"


Well, that's one interpretation. Mine is another. I guess we'll just have to wait to see the film.

I have a feeling the film won't clarify the comment. Either way, Bond's taking Greene down a notch.

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 06:57 PM

But then wouldn't the reply be 'Of course they do'.

I agree with earlier posts that the response is Bond saying that he will never call him Dominic.


Or ever be his friend.

#63 DamnCoffee

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 07:01 PM

The main page states 20 Minutes Of 'Quantum of Solace' Previewed. Whereas the Thread states 10 Minutes Of 'Quantum of Solace' were previewed, which is correct? :(

#64 Kristian

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 08:15 PM

When Greene says "My friends call me Dominic", Bond's reply of "I'm sure they do" is a cheeky way of drawing attention to the fact that Greene has just stated the blindingly obvious. Because what else would friends of a man called Dominic Greene call him other than Dominic?

That seems a bit literal to me.

The expression "My friends call me (insert christian name)" is a common one, it's Greene's way of saying "you can call me Dominic". Surely, as others have said, Bond's response is a snarky way of saying that he has no interest in getting pally with him. As in "I'm sure your friends do call you Dominic; I, on the other hand, will call you Greene/Naughty Man/Bum Features etc"


Correct "Well I'm not your friend so I wont call you that"



Well, whatever. But if they really wanted to zing Greene, this is what they should have scripted:


GREENE: My friends call me Dominic.

BOND: (beat) What? Wait... YOU have FRIENDS!?!

CAMILLE: Omigod, Dom... He just clowned you. OH, SNAP!!!!

FIELDS: (giggle) I'll be your friend, Mr. Greene. Me love you long time....


#65 Vauxhall

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 09:29 PM

The main page states 20 Minutes Of 'Quantum of Solace' Previewed. Whereas the Thread states 10 Minutes Of 'Quantum of Solace' were previewed, which is correct? :(

Both. 20 minutes were shown at a screening in Kiev, and 10 minutes were shown to AICN in London.

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 09:31 PM

Ahh! I see, thanks alot. :(

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 10:28 PM

The main page states 20 Minutes Of 'Quantum of Solace' Previewed. Whereas the Thread states 10 Minutes Of 'Quantum of Solace' were previewed, which is correct? :(

Both. 20 minutes were shown at a screening in Kiev, and 10 minutes were shown to AICN in London.


Okay, so I guess the trillion-dollar question is: where the hell is the coverage of the 20 minutes shown in Kiev? What... is it the same 10 minutes shown in the UK plus another 10 minutes?

Please. PLEASE. PLEASE!!!! Someone get on the case...

Thanks.

Edited by Kristian, 12 October 2008 - 10:28 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2008 - 10:37 PM

I think there's an NDA (non-disclosure agreement) on the Ukraine footage, October 20th I think. It's in the news story on the homepage.

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 10:39 PM

I think there's an NDA (non-disclosure agreement) on the Ukraine footage, October 20th I think. It's in the news story on the homepage.



Oh, right. Now I remember. Okay, this is the Gazillion-Dollar question:

Who can we persuade to viiiiiooooolaaaaaate that non-disclosure agreement???

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 10:41 PM

I have the oddest feeling the footage must have been amazing with at least two standout classic Bond moments, intriguing visual flourishes, vibrant locations and terrific action. I think Marc Forster will have delivered something incredible both visually and dramatically. I just can't wait to see the movie.

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 10:47 PM

:(

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 10:50 PM

:)



Tease. :(

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 11:01 PM

Yeah, as much as I'd love for someone to tell us about the 20 mins, they face a lawsuit up the :(.

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 11:12 PM

I have the oddest feeling the footage must have been amazing with at least two standout classic Bond moments, intriguing visual flourishes, vibrant locations and terrific action. I think Marc Forster will have delivered something incredible both visually and dramatically. I just can't wait to see the movie.

!!!!!!!! :(

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 11:15 PM

I got the impression that Bond meant "they probably call you a dick behind your back", but the "I won't call you that because I'll never be your friend" interpretation sounds just as valid.

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 11:15 PM

I have the oddest feeling the footage must have been amazing with at least two standout classic Bond moments, intriguing visual flourishes, vibrant locations and terrific action. I think Marc Forster will have delivered something incredible both visually and dramatically. I just can't wait to see the movie.


Most interesting. :(

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 11:23 PM

I have the oddest feeling the footage must have been amazing with at least two standout classic Bond moments, intriguing visual flourishes, vibrant locations and terrific action. I think Marc Forster will have delivered something incredible both visually and dramatically. I just can't wait to see the movie.


Most interesting. :(

Most, most interesting! We cannot let Ace get away with that; we demand more info! NDAs be damned! :)

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 02:09 AM

I think a few people are missing the point of this joke.

When Greene says "My friends call me Dominic", Bond's reply of "I'm sure they do" is a cheeky way of drawing attention to the fact that Greene has just stated the blindingly obvious. Because what else would friends of a man called Dominic Greene call him other than Dominic?


"My friends call me..." is a very, very well-known expression. (It's even been used in Bond films previously!) It doesn't make the speaker look stupid for stating the obvious at all. It's just the way people talk. The secondary meaning - the subtext - is one we're all familiar with - it's a version of "Call me Dominic." Hence the Bond line suggesting he won't.

People don't speak in a literal way. Screenwriters use that. Telling everyone in a thread that they're getting it wrong while you have the joke sussed...well, that way lies serious risk of embarrassment!

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 02:47 AM

Yeah, I don't see why that line is so difficult. Really, it's just a common expression. If the screenwriters wrote in a literal way (as stated by sorking) would make the line-reading and movie as a whole sound staler than a 6-year old piece of matzah. (That's a very rigid unleavened bread for all who don't know.)

#80 Kristian

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 04:37 AM

Or he could have just said:

GREENE: Dominic Greene. Don't make any jokes I've heard them all.

BOND: Oh, I doubt that. Have you heard this one....

:(

Edited by Kristian, 14 October 2008 - 04:38 AM.


#81 Loomis

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 11:03 AM

I think a few people are missing the point of this joke.

When Greene says "My friends call me Dominic", Bond's reply of "I'm sure they do" is a cheeky way of drawing attention to the fact that Greene has just stated the blindingly obvious. Because what else would friends of a man called Dominic Greene call him other than Dominic?


"My friends call me..." is a very, very well-known expression. (It's even been used in Bond films previously!) It doesn't make the speaker look stupid for stating the obvious at all. It's just the way people talk. The secondary meaning - the subtext - is one we're all familiar with - it's a version of "Call me Dominic." Hence the Bond line suggesting he won't.

People don't speak in a literal way. Screenwriters use that. Telling everyone in a thread that they're getting it wrong while you have the joke sussed...well, that way lies serious risk of embarrassment!


I disagree.

Never once in my 33 years have I ever heard anyone reveal their Christian name with the line "My friends call me....", and never have I done so myself. One would not do this unless one was being humourous. If done with a straight face, there would be the strong possibility of looking like a self-important stuffed shirt.

Yes, "My friends call me...." is, as you say, a very well-known expression, but I don't think it's one I've ever encountered outside books and films. Obviously, QUANTUM OF SOLACE is a film, and, as you indicate, people in films don't tend talk exactly as they do in real life. Especially not people in Bond films, which are hardly known for their realism.

However, I still don't see that my interpretation of this exchange is impossible, and I've conceded that it's possible to view it another way. As I've said, we'll just have to wait for the movie.

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 04:10 PM

I like what I'm reading in that AICN piece - especially the beginning and the Bond/Camille stuff.

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Posted 15 October 2008 - 01:03 AM

Yeah, I don't see why that line is so difficult. Really, it's just a common expression. If the screenwriters wrote in a literal way (as stated by sorking) would make the line-reading and movie as a whole sound staler than a 6-year old piece of matzah. (That's a very rigid unleavened bread for all who don't know.)

I think it was me that asked the question in the first place and I feel a bit daft now :( Somehow, just the words on the page made no sense to me. But of course, the meaning is blatantly obvious, and I'm sure I'll feel doubly daft when I hear it in the film.