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[Greene217]

Spoiler: The Bond tribute in the mail on sunday included a photo of Camille leading Bond out of the Eco-hotel in the climaz of the film.
The hotel is in flames and faliing to pieces. As Camille is still alive at the end of the climax it suggests that in contrary to YOLT'S rview, she does survive.
A quote in the paper also stated how Bond confronts greene in the desert after he and camille go their seperate ways.

Whether this is fact, or that the paper are simply guessing or anticipating she will survive and the she is killed by Greene after the hotel burns down remains to be seen.
Personally I think she survives which isnt a bad thing, although I would have liked Bond to watch how her vengeance leads to her downfall and so discovers his own humanity and lets Greene live.

[ImTheMoneypenny]

Thanks! I'm one of those poor souls who live in the US and miss a lot of these articles and magazines, so I'm glad to see this. I hope YOLT is wrong and this article is more accurate. I like Camille and would rather she and Bond go their separate ways than for her to die.

[DamnCoffee]

Personally, what I'm thinking is that...

Spoiler

Bond has a massive fight with Greene and thinks he has killed him. Camille turns up after dealing with Medrano and leaves the hotel with Bond.

It is then revealed that Greene is still alive, and finds a Medranos gun lying on the floor (It is shown in one of the latest blogs that Camille pushes Medrano over some bannisters - here I pressume he falls to his death and breaks his neck), Greene picks up the gun and makes his way out of the Eco Hotel, avoiding debri and collapsing walls/staircases.

Bond and Camille get in the car, and have the whole "I wish I could set you free - but your prison is in there" exchange. Greene emerges from the burning down hotel and Bond and Camille get out of the car. Greene shoots Camille and Bond ends up beating the crap out of him and dumping him in the boot of the car and a seriously wounded or dead Camille in the back seats. Bond beats information out of Greene regarding Vesper and Yussef, then dumps him in the desert and heads off to Moscow.

[Royal Dalton]

Yeah, it has to be something along those lines if she snuffs it, Harkers.

[Harmsway]

Personally, what I'm thinking is that...

Spoiler

Bond has a massive fight with Greene and thinks he has killed him. Camille turns up after dealing with Medrano and leaves the hotel with Bond.

It is then revealed that Greene is still alive, and finds a Medranos gun lying on the floor (It is shown in one of the latest blogs that Camille pushes Medrano over some bannisters - here I pressume he falls to his death and breaks his neck), Greene picks up the gun and makes his way out of the Eco Hotel, avoiding debri and collapsing walls/staircases.

Bond and Camille get in the car, and have the whole "I wish I could set you free - but your prison is in there" exchange. Greene emerges from the burning down hotel and Bond and Camille get out of the car. Greene shoots Camille and Bond ends up beating the crap out of him and dumping him in the boot of the car and a seriously wounded or dead Camille in the back seats. Bond beats information out of Greene regarding Vesper and Yussef, then dumps him in the desert and heads off to Moscow.

The only hole in that theory is the train yard scene... which takes place after the eco-hotel scene and has Camille still alive. Now, it's possible that Greene kills her at that point, but we're really reaching here.

Besides, YOLT's IMDB review indicates that Greene kills Camille before Bond and Greene ever go at it. Seems like he's full of crap whether she survives or not (and it's increasingly looking like she makes it through the flick - which is only sensible, given that otherwise every single Craig Bond girl will have met her demise).

And why are we using spoiler buttons in the spoiler section of the forum?

[DamnCoffee]

Is that the place we see Camille walking too in the trailer?

If so, I think that's where Medrano is hiding out or something, but saying that I've contradicted my above post as I've said that Camille kills Medrano in the Eco Hotel.

[Harmsway]

Is that the place we see Camille walking too in the trailer?

Yeah, and it's not the Eco Hotel. We saw some more footage of it in one of the docs, and it's on Vauxhall's call sheet. It's also seemingly the location of the Camille/Bond car convo about her freeing him (which is apparently their last good-bye before she gets out of the car, walks away, and leaves him to interrogate Greene).

If so, I think that's where Medrano is hiding out or something, but saying that I've contradicted my above post as I've said that Camille kills Medrano in the Eco Hotel.

It seems pretty clear that Medrano bites it in the Eco Hotel, especially given the footage of them fighting intensely inside there.

[Greene217]

Personally, what I'm thinking is that...

Spoiler

Bond has a massive fight with Greene and thinks he has killed him. Camille turns up after dealing with Medrano and leaves the hotel with Bond.

It is then revealed that Greene is still alive, and finds a Medranos gun lying on the floor (It is shown in one of the latest blogs that Camille pushes Medrano over some bannisters - here I pressume he falls to his death and breaks his neck), Greene picks up the gun and makes his way out of the Eco Hotel, avoiding debri and collapsing walls/staircases.

Bond and Camille get in the car, and have the whole "I wish I could set you free - but your prison is in there" exchange. Greene emerges from the burning down hotel and Bond and Camille get out of the car. Greene shoots Camille and Bond ends up beating the crap out of him and dumping him in the boot of the car and a seriously wounded or dead Camille in the back seats. Bond beats information out of Greene regarding Vesper and Yussef, then dumps him in the desert and heads off to Moscow.

Brilliant, now that would be an ending, but sadly it wont be, too musch evidence against it. still, camille is sexy and cool so her living wont be a disaster.

[DamnCoffee]

Right hang on then...

Bond has a massive fight with Greene and thinks he has killed him. Camille turns up after dealing with Medrano and leaves the hotel with Bond.

It is then revealed that Greene is still alive, and finds a Medranos gun lying on the floor (It is shown in one of the latest blogs that Camille pushes Medrano over some bannisters - here I pressume he falls to his death and breaks his neck), Greene picks up the gun and makes his way out of the Eco Hotel, avoiding debri and collapsing walls/staircases.

Bond and Camille get in the car, and have the whole "I wish I could set you free - but your prison is in there" exchange.

Bond and Camille say their goodbyes and Camille then leaves Bond. She gets out of the car and heads toward the train thing which is conveniently not far away from the Eco Hotel (Actually It's a hotel, It wouldn't be in the middle of nowhere) we see the shot from the trailer of Camille walking, we think everything will be ok and that Camille and Bond will go their seperate ways, but Greene emerges from the hotel and shoots Camille.

Bond ends up beating the crap out of him and dumping him in the boot of the car and a seriously wounded or dead Camille in the back seats. Bond beats information out of Greene regarding Vesper and Yussef, then dumps him in the desert and heads off to Moscow.

[Harmsway]

It's possible, if one is really trying to reconcile the IMDb review to the rest of what we know.

But there are other problems with the IMDb review that strike me, so I'm more intent on just disregarding the IMDb review altogether and believing that Bond and Camille simply part ways.

[Royal Dalton]

I don't think the station would be that close to the hotel.

It looks like Bond and Camille drive out of the hotel in that car. So, maybe Greene hides in the back, and when Bond stops at the station with Camille, he gets out and shoots her?

[Quantumofsolace007]

but Harmsway what about the stuff the IMDB guy got right? No bond james bond? Greene surviving etc.


i am unsure of camile's fate.

Edited by Quantumofsolace007, 05 October 2008 - 08:47 PM.

[Harmsway]

but Harmsway how do u reconcile the stuff the IMDB guy got right? No bond james bond? Greene surviving etc.

A lot of that stuff was mentioned on the internet beforehand (Greene surviving definitely was). Besides, it's also possible that he got ahold of some information without getting all of it.

[Quantumofsolace007]

So does bond Quit at the end?

[bondrules]

QoS bodycount....feel free to add

Camille
Elvis
Mr. Slate?
Mitchell (not Tanner)
Fields
Mathis (maybe bond hides him in the trash so the bolivinas can't find him? The pics we saw made to fool us? Kinda mean of Bond to throw a lifeless body of a friend in the trash)
Madrano
Chief of Police
President of Bolivia?

Edited by bondrules, 06 October 2008 - 06:12 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

Tanner!?

[Quantumofsolace007]

Tanner and Mathis? WHY?

[DamnCoffee]

What happens to Tanner? I cannot remember reading anything to suggest he dies.

[bondrules]

Tanner!?

what's the name of the Mi6 traitor?

ok, Mitchell...he dies right?

Edited by bondrules, 06 October 2008 - 06:09 PM.

[JackWade]

QoS bodycount....feel free to add

Camille
Elvis
Mr. Slate?
Mitchell (not Tanner)
Fields
Mathis (maybe bond hides him in the trash so the bolivinas can't find him? The pics we saw made to fool us? Kinda mean of Bond to throw a lifeless body of a friend in the trash)
Madrano
Chief of Police
President of Bolivia?

I don't think Camille dies. I'm not so sure that there's been confirmation on Elvis' death either unless I happened to miss something after the IMDB review claimed he kicked the bucket. I also haven't heard anything about the Bolivian President but if that's one spoiler I missed I'm not too sad.

[Harmsway]

I don't think Camille dies.

Me either. And the Daily Mail article indicates that she lives, for what it's worth.

I'm not so sure that there's been confirmation on Elvis' death either unless I happened to miss something after the IMDB review claimed he kicked the bucket.

There is. Though unlike the IMDB article indicates, he dies in the fight in the finale, not in a plane crash.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

QoS bodycount....feel free to add
(...)
President of Bolivia?

Does Bond kill Evo Morales? So he can get anoither 00 code?

[bondrules]

Anyone read this? It's pretty funny


http://i516.photobuc...pty/History.jpg

[tim partridge]

Hi

I have not read the contents of this thread at all, but going by the title of it alone could you please spare a thought for those of us who really do want a SPOILER FREE viewing experience the first time around. Remember, the top thread title for this SPOILERS forum is viewable from the main and QOS forums.

Cheers

[Vauxhall]

Anyone read this? It's pretty funny

http://i516.photobuc...pty/History.jpg

How bizarre! Where's that from?

[bondrules]

Anyone read this? It's pretty funny

http://i516.photobuc...pty/History.jpg

How bizarre! Where's that from?

I think it was Total Magazine? (not 100% sure) Someone posted the scans and I started reading the text....when I read that portion, I was like, wow, this is quite unusual for a Bond flick, but cool

[Kristian]

Anyone read this? It's pretty funny

http://i516.photobuc...pty/History.jpg

How bizarre! Where's that from?

I think it was Total Magazine? (not 100% sure) Someone posted the scans and I started reading the text....when I read that portion, I was like, wow, this is quite unusual for a Bond flick, but cool

Well, I'm tickled pink that Cammie lives. Sorry, but I would've boycotted QOS if she bit the dust. And all these theories about her getting shot AFTER she gets out of the car do not support the notion that she courted her own demise by being obsessed with revenge. Seems like she already had it and made peace at that point. Killing her off then would not serve any purpose (i.e.,gratuitous).

Go girl!!!! And YOLT, wherever and whoever you are - F@#k you, you LOSER!!!! GET AN EDUCATION!!!!!