A Great Conclusion
#1
Posted 26 September 2002 - 07:09 PM
Yet the real significance of Moore's pantheon resonates far beyond any critical analysis. For the Empire generation he is our Bond, and his beige flares, submersible lotus and - lets be honest - bad jokes ("Goodnight, Goodnight") ignited our passion for the movies in general and 007 in particular. So when Bond skis off a mountain in a banana-yellow ski suit, saved only by a Union Jack parachute accompanied by that theme, it may not be Fleming, but it's the stuff that cinematic rites of passage are made of.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
#2
Posted 26 September 2002 - 08:25 PM
#3
Posted 30 September 2002 - 12:13 PM
#4
Posted 25 June 2003 - 12:00 AM
#5
Posted 25 June 2003 - 12:02 AM
I happen to agree with him.
#6
Posted 25 June 2003 - 12:28 AM
#7
Posted 25 June 2003 - 12:33 AM
snow, you read my mind, he was an imposter:)Originally posted by DLibrasnow
I remember going to see TLD at the movie theater back in 1987 and one of our party was looking at a full size poster with Dalton in the middle of the gunbarrel and he turned around and quipped "That's an imposter"...
I happen to agree with him.
#8
Posted 25 June 2003 - 02:00 AM
#9
Posted 25 June 2003 - 02:09 AM
I remember going to see TLD at the movie theater back in 1987 and one of our party was looking at a full size poster with Dalton in the middle of the gunbarrel and he turned around and quipped "That's an imposter"...
I happen to agree with him."
Roger was great but Tim Dalton was no imposter; that comment suggests TD was trying to be exactly like his predecessors which he clearly was not. He was the new James Bond in '87; It was a different Bond from the other 3 men but a great Bond in his own right.Did you want to see 'the new James Bond' give a fresh take on the character or did you want a true imposter of Roger and Sean? Your friend obviously doesn't read the books.
#10
Posted 25 June 2003 - 02:26 AM
thanks for posting that .. very interesting read
#11
Posted 25 June 2003 - 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Tarl_Cabot
Roger was great but Tim Dalton was no imposter; that comment suggests TD was trying to be exactly like his predecessors which he clearly was not. He was the new James Bond in '87; It was a different Bond from the other 3 men but a great Bond in his own right.Did you want to see 'the new James Bond' give a fresh take on the character or did you want a true imposter of Roger and Sean? Your friend obviously doesn't read the books.
Probably not, but I don't think it really matters because his view of Dalton was borne out by the public who rejected the actors interpretation.
#12
Posted 25 June 2003 - 11:53 AM
Originally posted by DLibrasnow
his view of Dalton was borne out by the public who rejected the actors interpretation.
"The public" also rejected CITIZEN KANE and BLADE RUNNER. Does that make them bad films?
And if Dalton was an "impostor", who was he trying to pass himself off as? Moore? Connery? Lazenby? None of those people? Was Moore an impostor, too?
What of Brosnan? Is he, likewise, an impostor? DLibrasnow, in your book is anyone who doesn't happen to be Moore an impostor?
#13
Posted 25 June 2003 - 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Loomis
"The public" also rejected CITIZEN KANE and BLADE RUNNER. Does that make them bad films?
And if Dalton was an "impostor", who was he trying to pass himself off as? Moore? Connery? Lazenby? None of those people? Was Moore an impostor, too?
What of Brosnan? Is he, likewise, an impostor? DLibrasnow, in your book is anyone who doesn't happen to be Moore an impostor?
It was a quip Loomis....
#14
Posted 25 June 2003 - 12:36 PM
Still, I'm beginning to view you as being to Moore what Bondpurist is to Dalton.
#15
Posted 25 June 2003 - 12:57 PM
#16
Posted 25 June 2003 - 01:07 PM
He wasn't the best Bond actor (although I don't believe there's such a thing), but he could always be counted on to give an entertaining ride (Jim, how do you spell "fnaar"?). It was never "personal" with Roger. No attempts at "intensity" or "realism". Just good, solid entertainment. (Can one make innuendo out of the word "solid", I wonder? Later, perhaps.)
Where's Moore's THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH? Nowhere, that's where, because he never made such a Bond film. Thank goodness.
#17
Posted 25 June 2003 - 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Loomis
I agree with you. No one ever did "fun" like Roger. (God, even his name is tongue-in-cheek - "Roger Moore", geddit?)
He wasn't the best Bond actor (although I don't believe there's such a thing), but he could always be counted on to give an entertaining ride (Jim, how do you spell "fnaar"?). It was never "personal" with Roger. No attempts at "intensity" or "realism". Just good, solid entertainment. (Can one make innuendo out of the word "solid", I wonder? Later, perhaps.)
Where's Moore's THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH? Nowhere, that's where, because he never made such a Bond film. Thank goodness.
I see that we have very similar views on 007 Loomis
Desmond Llewelyn would always say that the best Bond actor was whomever you saw first.
#18
Posted 25 June 2003 - 01:37 PM
#19
Posted 25 June 2003 - 01:41 PM
Originally posted by ChandlerBing
If that were true, then I am sure Barry Nelson has his fans somewhere.
That would assume that anyone watched his "Casino Royale"
#20
Posted 25 June 2003 - 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Loomis
I agree with you. No one ever did "fun" like Roger. (God, even his name is tongue-in-cheek - "Roger Moore", geddit?)
He wasn't the best Bond actor (although I don't believe there's such a thing), but he could always be counted on to give an entertaining ride (Jim, how do you spell "fnaar"?). It was never "personal" with Roger. No attempts at "intensity" or "realism". Just good, solid entertainment. (Can one make innuendo out of the word "solid", I wonder? Later, perhaps.)
Where's Moore's THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH? Nowhere, that's where, because he never made such a Bond film. Thank goodness.
Yeah persoanlly I loved the pretitle of TWINE! It started out nice.. and I was like "hey finally Pierce's era hit its stride!"... BUT as soon as Pierce had to show anger/sadness/anything when they brought up his wife's death.. it all fell appart for me!
The movie turned into a rip off of "Octopussy/FYEO".. just because one long action .. no substance 007 movie..
#21
Posted 25 June 2003 - 08:34 PM