Timothy Dalton in FYEO and OP
#1
Posted 05 September 2008 - 06:48 PM
I like these 3 best:
http://007art.free.f...ton_fyeo_3.html
http://007art.free.f...ton_fyeo_4.html
http://007art.free.f...ton_fyeo_1.html
This one isn't quite as good as the above 3 but still good-
http://007art.free.f...ton_fyeo_2.html
Makes me wish even more that Dalton started with this one.
Also, Dalton in Octopussy
http://007art.free.f...ctopussy_1.html
http://007art.free.f...ctopussy_2.html
http://007art.free.f...ctopussy_3.html
http://007art.free.f...ctopussy_4.html
I still like Rog in Octopussy though although a rewritten OP tailored to Tim's talents would've worked also.
#2
Posted 05 September 2008 - 06:58 PM
Tim in OP; Not a match, unless we're talking about a completely different film with the same title
Actually, I'm probably doing his versitility a great disservice there but still, Rog was born to be in that film.
BTW Aishwarya Rai would have been ten in 1983! Not sure what the thinking was there!
#3
Posted 05 September 2008 - 07:10 PM
Tim in FYEO; Very, very good idea with or without rewriting
Agree. Although these posters don't have Lynn Holly Johnson's name listed. I'm assuming no Bibi Dahl. Which is fine since FYEO is supposed to be a "serious" Bond film.
Tim in OP; Not a match, unless we're talking about a completely different film with the same title
Agree. For it to work with Tim, they would need to eliminate the campier aspects of the film(Tarzan yell, comedy in the Udaipur chase, acrobatic women). Make it more serious and darker with Octopussy as a villainess in league with Prince Kamal Khan and General Orlov. Perhaps, make Magda the heroine and have Bond turn her to his side.
Actually, I'm probably doing his versitility a great disservice there but still, Rog was born to be in that film.
Agreed. With the same OP script we have now, Sir Rog just belongs in OP. The solution would be for OP and FYEO to change places in order. OP could've been Sir Rog's finale and FYEO could've been Tim's debut.
BTW Aishwarya Rai would have been ten in 1983! Not sure what the thinking was there!
It's the wonderful world of the imagination . Maud Adams should only have played Octopussy if Sir Rog was playing Bond opposite her. Can't see the same chemistry happening between her and Tim.
#4
Posted 05 September 2008 - 10:01 PM
#5
Posted 06 September 2008 - 01:25 AM
But even if she were, it would've made a whole lot more sense with Dalton playing the role. With him at the age he would've been in 1981, I can see a teenager falling for the tall, dark, handsome type. With Moore, it was just . . . well, kinda creepy.Tim in FYEO; Very, very good idea with or without rewriting
Agree. Although these posters don't have Lynn Holly Johnson's name listed. I'm assuming no Bibi Dahl. Which is fine since FYEO is supposed to be a "serious" Bond film.
#6
Posted 06 September 2008 - 01:39 AM
#7
Posted 06 September 2008 - 04:32 AM
I REALLY like th first two Octopussy posters. I miss that old look of the Bond artwork
Couldn't agree more. I really like the first FYEO one too. You just couldn't walk past a poster like that hanging up at the cinema and not find it visually captivating. God, I wish EoN management would've shaken things up a bit more in the 80s and given Dalton a real chance.
Edited by Mr Teddy Bear, 06 September 2008 - 04:34 AM.
#9
Posted 06 September 2008 - 12:44 PM
#10
Posted 07 September 2008 - 09:02 PM
#11
Posted 08 September 2008 - 06:22 AM
#12
Posted 09 September 2008 - 03:35 PM
Also, Dalton had TLD, which I also view as one of the best Bond movies ever. He didn't need FYEO or OP.
Edited by DR76, 09 September 2008 - 03:39 PM.
#13
Posted 10 September 2008 - 03:49 AM
A more intentional take on the material with Dalton in the role would have been pretty interesting. Lose some of the slapstick and stupidity, give the whole thing some zest, and you might just have something.
#14
Posted 10 September 2008 - 05:05 AM
I consider FYEO to be one of the best Bond movies . . . ever. And Cubby didn't need Dalton. He had Roger Moore, who gave one of his best performances. OCTOPUSSY was another first-class movie, despite some of the silly humor. Again, it did just fine with Moore.
Also, Dalton had TLD, which I also view as one of the best Bond movies ever. He didn't need FYEO or OP.
Agreed. While I would have liked to have seen Dalton get more films, I like FYEO just the way it is. I thought that Moore was great in the film (and turned in his best performance as Bond) to the point that he could have played the role in a more serious fashion for his entire tenure and been just as good in the role.
#15
Posted 10 September 2008 - 06:00 AM
#16
Posted 10 September 2008 - 06:34 AM
#17
Posted 10 September 2008 - 07:25 AM
lol Dalton in those films would have been a disaster
How so? Care to elaborate rather than just providing a glib remark?
#18
Posted 10 September 2008 - 08:43 AM
#19
Posted 13 September 2008 - 09:25 PM
#20
Posted 13 September 2008 - 09:36 PM
I think Miss Goodnight needs to be silenced. Goodnight, Goodnight.
Haha!
I believe that For Your Eyes Only was perfect with Rog, but by the time Octopussy was released, he was beginning to look a little bit past it (I mean that in the nicest possible way!) Perhaps For Your Eyes Only could have been Rog's finale, with a re-written Octopussy for Dalton's debut, A View To A Kill edited (less humour, more coldness) and The Living Daylights and Licence To Kill left as they are naturally! Then Timmy would've had four films to his name...
#21
Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:30 PM
P.S: Aishwarya Rai was 10 years old in 1983.
Edited by Golden Claw, 15 September 2008 - 04:32 PM.
#22
Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:47 PM
#23
Posted 15 September 2008 - 08:25 PM
#24
Posted 15 September 2008 - 10:30 PM
With OP he is showing his age for me. But having watched OP recently, it is such a Roger film. It has the "Stamp of Rog" all over it, so it would need some serious reworking for Dalton.
With AVTAK, I feel Dalton should have stepped in definitely there, and some reworking to maybe flesh out some of the Fleming short stories, and some darker tone would have complimented Dalton. Along with a film in 91, that would have given Dalton a 3/4 film stretch at least.
Edited by BoogieBond, 15 September 2008 - 10:31 PM.
#25
Posted 24 September 2008 - 06:14 PM
#26
Posted 25 November 2008 - 12:22 AM
Moore still owns!
#27
Posted 25 November 2008 - 01:58 AM
I don't think Dalton could have done very well with the gambling scene, though. Moore's cocky approach of annoying his enemies shines through there. That was a cool Bond quality Dalton either didn't have or never got the chance to try.
Best the way things turned out, I'd say.
#28
Posted 07 December 2008 - 03:34 AM
Someone should take a crack at making posters for the never made film, Property Of A Lady (Unless of course someone already has)
Edited by Ozzman313, 07 December 2008 - 03:36 AM.