How long should Lazenby played Bond ?
#31
Posted 01 September 2008 - 05:34 PM
#32
Posted 01 September 2008 - 05:50 PM
Yeah, he was charming her. He wasn't holding her hand or anything. He was just sitting there persuading her.
I seriously suggest you watch that movie again. He had to break her heart by telling her her brother was dead then tell her to help her take down Largo or hundreds of thousands of people might die. No one liners, just the sad facts.
#33
Posted 01 September 2008 - 06:16 PM
I don't know. I never bought Laz's emotion as genuine simply because I didn't buy his acting. That's what it was... ACTING... someone pretending to be James Bond... not embodying it, like say Craig or even Connery (in his earlier ones)
#34
Posted 01 September 2008 - 06:55 PM
He'd put his armour back on, Harky...Like I said, From Russia With Love was great in terms of emotional depth but Thunderball, don't get me wrong I adore Connery as Bond but I didn't see any emotion on his face during the beach scene. He didn't show any.
Hey! You stole that from coco and me!Through Moonraker in '79. I really think the style of the 70s Bond movies would have fit Lazenby very well, although DAF was still too campy to be an appropriate follow-up to OHMSS. It didn't have to be dour or miserable, but it did have to bring the story to an adequate close while being true to the characters.
Then Dalton could have taken over in '81, with Roger Moore starring in an epic one-shot Thunderball remake by Kevin McClory around the same time.
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#35
Posted 01 September 2008 - 07:08 PM
Like I said, From Russia With Love was great in terms of emotional depth but Thunderball, don't get me wrong I adore Connery as Bond but I didn't see any emotion on his face during the beach scene. He didn't show any.
I agree. That scene falls flat for me; partly because Bond is a in it ("Your brother's dead, but never mind because it means you can help me complete the job I'm paid for") and partly because Claudine Auger is decorative enough but has the depth of thin cardboard.
Contrast that with Lazenby in the final scene of OHMSS. He's extraordinary in it; it's pitch perfect.
#36
Posted 01 September 2008 - 07:24 PM
#37
Posted 01 September 2008 - 07:55 PM
I agree. That scene falls flat for me; partly because Bond is a in it ("Your brother's dead, but never mind because it means you can help me complete the job I'm paid for")
Since when has Bond done his job just becauses he's paid for it ? He cared about what was going to happen if he didn't find Largo in time.
and partly because Claudine Auger is decorative enough but has the depth of thin cardboard.
She was never really an in depth character in the books but she did have genuine emotion. Like when she told Bond that she didn't care that he left but she really did.
Contrast that with Lazenby in the final scene of OHMSS. He's extraordinary in it; it's pitch perfect.
That's unfair comparison really because dosen't take brilliant acting to be sad tragic moments. It's harder to be emotional when the situation isn't nessecarily depressing.
#38
Posted 02 September 2008 - 01:45 PM
Agreed.To be honest, I would have rather have Peter Hunt stay on the series longer then Laz. He should have handled the Dalton era.
And while Lazenby's acting in OHMSS might be the worst of any Bond in the series, I don't think it's bad so much as ho-hum. And he did have moments of brilliance, like "I can think of something more sociable to do" and when he calls Draco to plan the raid on Piz Gloria.
#39
Posted 02 September 2008 - 02:43 PM
#40
Posted 02 September 2008 - 03:12 PM
I've said it before, for it to be rated so highly by quite a few of us I don't see where Lazenby could have been atrocious (Yes Tightpants/Shadowonthesun I've seen your Avatar location on MI6 it's very childish, comparing liking Lazenby to child murder is very immature, grow up you little boy)
Yes Lazenby had the best elements of most of the series with the music and the cast but he sells Bond as vunerable like it needed to be and he didn't come across as smug ala Brosnan and Connery wouldn't have worked as Bond in OHMSS, all the plaudits given to this man, he didn't give a about the role and was all about the money and some of you put far too much stock in him.
With hindsight I'd rather have him than the dross that Moore gave us for the majority of his era, he's entertaining and a handful of his films are not bad but at least George tried to be Fleming's Bond unlike Moore's randy playboy.
#41
Posted 02 September 2008 - 03:19 PM
all the plaudits given to this man, he didn't give a about the role and was all about the money and some of you put far too much stock in him.
At that point yes. I still think OHMSS needed a better Bond though. Julian Glover perhaps ?
#42
Posted 02 September 2008 - 03:20 PM
(Yes Tightpants/Shadowonthesun I've seen your Avatar location on MI6 it's very childish, comparing liking Lazenby to child murder is very immature, grow up you little boy)
Oh my God! That's horrible!
#43
Posted 02 September 2008 - 06:27 PM
Say what?(Yes Tightpants/Shadowonthesun I've seen your Avatar location on MI6 it's very childish, comparing liking Lazenby to child murder is very immature, grow up you little boy)
Oh my God! That's horrible!
#44
Posted 04 September 2008 - 12:35 PM
I agree. That scene falls flat for me; partly because Bond is a in it ("Your brother's dead, but never mind because it means you can help me complete the job I'm paid for")
Since when has Bond done his job just becauses he's paid for it ?
He hasn't. But I never suggested he did. What I was saying is that scene doesn't work for me because Bond is sending Domino (who's no Anya or Wai Lin remember) into the lion's den; a job for which she has no qualifications and for which he has been trained and is paid.
#45
Posted 04 September 2008 - 12:43 PM
Contrast that with Lazenby in the final scene of OHMSS. He's extraordinary in it; it's pitch perfect.
That's unfair comparison really because dosen't take brilliant acting to be sad tragic moments. It's harder to be emotional when the situation isn't nessecarily depressing.
Well, that's too subjective to debate properly as every actor is an individual. But the fact remains that Lazenby's scene with the dead Tracy is far more effective, for me, than Connery's beach scene with Domino. But, then, that could be the quality of the actresses. Diana Rigg playing dead has far more vitality than Claudine Auger running and skipping.
#46
Posted 04 September 2008 - 12:48 PM
Blame Ian Fleming/Whittingham/McClory The Novel is pretty much the same as I recall.I agree. That scene falls flat for me; partly because Bond is a in it ("Your brother's dead, but never mind because it means you can help me complete the job I'm paid for")
Since when has Bond done his job just becauses he's paid for it ?
He hasn't. But I never suggested he did. What I was saying is that scene doesn't work for me because Bond is sending Domino (who's no Anya or Wai Lin remember) into the lion's den; a job for which she has no qualifications and for which he has been trained and is paid.
I think in the novel, Bond feels more guilty and is a bit softer to her, and Domino says she hates him to his face or something similar.
For what its worth, I really like that scene, even though Bond is a in it.
Edited by BoogieBond, 04 September 2008 - 12:50 PM.
#47
Posted 04 September 2008 - 02:14 PM
He hasn't. But I never suggested he did. What I was saying is that scene doesn't work for me because Bond is sending Domino (who's no Anya or Wai Lin remember) into the lion's den; a job for which she has no qualifications and for which he has been trained and is paid.
He didn't ask her to kill Largo or anyone else. He asked to give a signal if the bombs were aboard. A simple yet risky task. That obviously wasn't an easy thing to ask either.
Edited by Mister E, 04 September 2008 - 02:14 PM.
#48
Posted 05 September 2008 - 05:45 PM
#49
Posted 05 September 2008 - 09:53 PM
The amazing thing is, he could have done 11 Bond films, finishing off with LTK (a good film for a Bond actor to finish on) at the age of about 47. That's what I would have gone with.
That is kind of excessive. I think 5 to 7 films is alot better so that is 1981.
#50
Posted 05 September 2008 - 11:10 PM
The amazing thing is, he could have done 11 Bond films, finishing off with LTK (a good film for a Bond actor to finish on) at the age of about 47. That's what I would have gone with.
My thoughts exactly! age would not be a factor.
Edited by Colossus, 05 September 2008 - 11:11 PM.
#51
Posted 07 September 2008 - 11:22 AM
#52
Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:42 PM
#53
Posted 15 September 2008 - 07:06 PM
#54
Posted 15 September 2008 - 11:30 PM
OHMSS-1969
DAF-1971
#55
Posted 18 September 2008 - 12:45 PM
OHMSS
DAF
LALD
TMWTGG
TSWLM
Moonraker
Then call it quit rich beyond his wildest dreams, and let Timothy Dalton be the Bond of the 80's.
#56
Posted 18 September 2008 - 01:58 PM
Don't worry, I'll hold 'em off: OHMSS is one of the most atrociously-acted Bond films I've seen. The only reason George Lazenby didn't suck on a Die Another Day level was because every other actor half-carried, half-dragged him through it. He had his moments where he had a bit of a go, but I'd rather pour petrol in my eyes than watch him in the role.One was too many.
*runs*
Worst. Bond. Ever.
OHMSS was a great story, but poor male-model George couldn't act his way out of a paper bag (not that it's his fault, he had no acting experience before OHMSS and was clearly in way over his head -- he looked the part and did good fight scenes, but when he opened his mouth and tried to be sauve -- or angry -- or intent or...
It's just too bad they didn't make OHMSS right after GF like they originally planned. Can you imagine Connery starring in OHMSS in his prime and on the heels of GF? But alas, not to be. (Thanks, McClory!)
Edited by Diabolik, 18 September 2008 - 02:00 PM.
#57
Posted 12 November 2008 - 09:29 PM
#58
Posted 12 November 2008 - 11:57 PM
#59
Posted 14 November 2008 - 12:52 AM
Little too extreme. How old is he now?He should've gone 'til '81!
Anyway, I always felt he shouldve carried on to his Mid 40's.
#60
Posted 14 November 2008 - 12:55 AM
Little too extreme. How old is he now?He should've gone 'til '81!
Anyway, I always felt he shouldve carried on to his Mid 40's.
That would be 1984 or 85.