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[DaveBond21]

If you remember, there was a nice homage to classic British horror film, Don't Look Now (1973) in Casino Royale. When Bond chases a red-dressed Vesper through Venice it was, according to Phil Meheux, a direct nod to the visions of the figure with the red coat running through Venice in that 70's movie.

Now, in Quantum of Solace there seems to be yet another tribute to the film. Look at 2 mins 15 on this trailer, and notice that Donald Sutherland's character falls from ropes and pullies in an old church, much like the art gallery clip in Quantum of Solace.

http://www.flixster....ovieVideos13096


Is someone at Eon a big fan of this movie?

[Vauxhall]

Yeah, I can certainly see where you're coming from! Interesting homage if so, but I suppose it could be a mere coincidence.

[Trident]

If you remember, there was a nice homage to classic British horror film, Don't Look Now (1973) in Casino Royale. When Bond chases a red-dressed Vesper through Venice it was, according to Phil Meheux, a direct nod to the visions of the figure with the red coat running through Venice in that 70's movie.

I didn't notice that nod in 'Casino Royale'. My guess would have been that a red figure was chosen because is catched far easier by the camera in those crowds than any other colour of dress. Wasn't that dwarf in 'Don't Look Now' always shown alone? Have to watch that film again, can't even remember Sutherland falling from his scaffold any more. Anyway, very nice find.

[DaveBond21]

can't even remember Sutherland falling from his scaffold any more. Anyway, very nice find.

Thanks.

Did you see the scene of Sutherland falling from the scaffolding in the attached clip?

[Trident]

Oh yes, I did. Just couldn't remember it happening any more. Really has a suspiciously similar look to some of QOS scenes. But of course, if you're about to show a fight including scaffolding, ropes, a certain height, there are only ever so much angles for the director of photography to show. So, to a degree, you're bound to end up with some similar material. I you remember 'Casino Royale's' endfight in the renovating site there are similar angles to communicate to the viewer the impression of height and also the stairwell is a bit wider, showing an almost tower-like sense of space.

[DaveBond21]

Good point.

By the way, if you want to see my original post about Don't Look Now in Casino Royale, here is the link:-


http://debrief.commanderbond.net/index.php...'t+Look+Now

[Trident]

By the way, if you want to see my original post about Don't Look Now in Casino Royale, here is the link:-


http://debrief.commanderbond.net/index.php...'t+Look+Now

Very interesting observation. I think Phil Méheux' homage would have been more obvious, had CR's Venice not been so tourist infested (but therefore much more credible and authentic than MR's for example). Perfect would have been something like this:

Venice in b/w

[Skudor]

The scaffolding scene has some similarities (scaffolding) but I wouldn't go much further than that.

[Trident]

I would suspect that most people who work in the movies are a big fan !! I can't see the trailor you have attached but I wish directors would stop 'paying homage', I mean a lot of people who haven't seen DLN won't get it and will attribute the red dress through Venice to CR etc etc etc. Where does Homage end and Plaguerism begin?

A director worth his salt should come up with his own ideas or sooner or later you will end up with a movie so full of homages and influences it just renders it a recipe of remade clips from other movies - a la Quentin Tarrantino

Well, to tell the truth, the red dress really makes it a whole lot easier to identify Vesper amongst all those tourists. So there is a good reason present for her wardrobe in those scenes apart from homage. If I were the director or director of photography, I'd very much like my audience to get what I intend them to see. And it really isn't much more than a curt nod. Most cinéasts will love it, all others will just register is as nicely shot. It doesn't really interfere with one's understanding of the story, so I don't mind it at all.

[DaveBond21]

I would suspect that most people who work in the movies are a big fan !! I can't see the trailor you have attached but I wish directors would stop 'paying homage', I mean a lot of people who haven't seen DLN won't get it and will attribute the red dress through Venice to CR etc etc etc. Where does Homage end and Plaguerism begin?

A director worth his salt should come up with his own ideas or sooner or later you will end up with a movie so full of homages and influences it just renders it a recipe of remade clips from other movies - a la Quentin Tarrantino

Well, to tell the truth, the red dress really makes it a whole lot easier to identify Vesper amongst all those tourists. So there is a good reason present for her wardrobe in those scenes apart from homage. If I were the director or director of photography, I'd very much like my audience to get what I intend them to see. And it really isn't much more than a curt nod. Most cinéasts will love it, all others will just register is as nicely shot. It doesn't really interfere with one's understanding of the story, so I don't mind it at all.

Yes, that is the way I see. I don't think of Don't Look Now everytime I watch Bond chasing Vesper in Venice, but it is nice to see this classic horror film is still in people's minds.

[Judo chop]

Oh God. Just wait until Will Smith gets wind of this...

[Trident]

Oh God. Just wait until Will Smith gets wind of this...

Why? He surely wouldn't try a remake, would he?

[honeyjes]

The problem you now have is that you now know about the scene, and when watching the film you won't be watching the FILM, but looking out for this scene and making comparisons, if your that worried now it's already spoilt.

The superhighway is not much fun sometimes.