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Newsnight discussion about DMC


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#1 Hitch

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 10:58 PM

The discussion about DMC starts nine minutes in. (I hope the link works. The Beeb will remove the video by next Wednesday.)

BBC Newsnight Review of Devil May Care

#2 spynovelfan

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 11:06 PM

Thanks, Hitch. It gives me a message saying I can't watch it as I'm outside the UK, sadly. Anything interesting crop up?

#3 Scrambled Eggs

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 11:22 PM

I suspect this won't be available outside the UK.

Paul Morley appears to be quite a Fleming fan. says something like "on this evidence, Fleming was a better writer than Faulks". Thinks Faulks underestimated the task and that generally people don't appreciate that there are poetic moments in Fleming. Mr Morley sounds almost like a CBn regular.

The other two don't appear to be all that familiar with Fleming, think DMC is marvellous and do a bit of brown nosing.

#4 Hitch

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 11:36 PM

Sorry, I didn't realise the file was UK only. The website says it's not available to download (there must be some copyright restriction, I suppose) so it looks like all the poor souls outside Blighty are going to miss out.

#5 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 11:39 PM

Could someone post the Devil May Care portion on YouTube, possibly? :tup:

#6 Royal Dalton

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 01:50 AM

Don't worry. I recorded it when it was on the telly.

I'll put it on YouTube later today.

#7 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 02:01 AM

Don't worry. I recorded it when it was on the telly.

I'll put it on YouTube later today.

Good man. :tup:

#8 K1Bond007

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 03:42 AM

Paul Morley appears to be quite a Fleming fan. says something like "on this evidence, Fleming was a better writer than Faulks". Thinks Faulks underestimated the task and that generally people don't appreciate that there are poetic moments in Fleming. Mr Morley sounds almost like a CBn regular.

The other two don't appear to be all that familiar with Fleming, think DMC is marvellous and do a bit of brown nosing.


They write two different forms of fiction. I'd love to see Fleming imitate Faulks style and try and do a book from Faulks French trilogy. I won't underestimate the man's talent, but I bet in comparison to Faulks he'd get pretty much the same criticisms. It's hard taking something that isn't yours and forging a new story attempting to stay in the same style and feel. I admit I kind of expected better then what I'm reading, but at the same time DMC really isn't that bad and the only person who can trump Ian Fleming and give us a masterful James Bond novel is Ian Fleming. Amis didn't do so hot either and he's considered one of the greatest authors of the past century, ranked typically far above Fleming. I would think Faulks would have had more success had he not imitated Fleming and just done his own thing.

#9 Royal Dalton

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 03:59 PM

Here you go, m'dears.



#10 whiteskwirl

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 04:28 PM

Here you go, m'dears.



Thanks!

I agree with the guy on the left: Faulks got all the boxes checked but added nothing new to a rather uninspired story.

#11 Single-O-Seven

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 04:34 PM

Here you go, m'dears.



Many thanks for the link! Fellow on the left seemed to know his stuff. I got the impression the others knew little of Fleming, and just assumed Faulks must have done it better than the man himself because he's Faulks and Fleming was just Fleming.

#12 spynovelfan

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 05:04 PM

I think Morley's spot on. (And the ruthless killer of Casino Royale also falls head over heels in love.)

#13 Trident

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 05:41 PM

Oh, my god. What are the bird and that older guy talking about? Surely not Bond and/or Fleming, I hope? If they absolutely do have to praise Faulks, then please for 'Charlotte Gray', 'Fools Alphabet' or 'Engleby'. Entirely with Morley on this.

Edited by Trident, 02 June 2008 - 05:41 PM.


#14 David Schofield

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 07:17 PM

Oh, my god. What are the bird and that older guy talking about?


Quite clearly they tipify the traditional Fleming reader. Warm blooded hetrosexuals, in areoplanes, trains and beds. :tup: