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[double o ego]

Don't get me wrong, as I said before, I'm not dismissing the views of others, everyone has a right to their own opinion on matters BUT I'm just saying there are levels of credibility that carry certain levels of weight and a 12 year old girl who knows next to nothing about Bond can't be taken as serious, compared to the likes of the, "elite and well versed"

[Mercator]

Don't get me wrong, as I said before, I'm not dismissing the views of others, everyone has a right to their own opinion on matters BUT I'm just saying there are levels of credibility that carry certain levels of weight and a 12 year old girl who knows next to nothing about Bond can't be taken as serious, compared to the likes of the, "elite and well versed"

I have agreement with this.

[honeyjes]

Don't get me wrong, as I said before, I'm not dismissing the views of others, everyone has a right to their own opinion on matters BUT I'm just saying there are levels of credibility that carry certain levels of weight and a 12 year old girl who knows next to nothing about Bond can't be taken as serious, compared to the likes of the, "elite and well versed"

I was being sarcastic. Far from being open your comments seem to encompass a lot more than just 12 year olds.

[Publius]

I dislike a few characteristics of his Bond (most notably how much of a superhero he started becoming) and I think he's overrated by the general public. That's about all the bad I can honestly say about Connery as Bond. Sorry.

[Bondian]

Personally. I do not give a tinkers cuss about an actor's private life. As long as they're believable onscreen is all that matters to me.

Wasn't Walt Disney mixed up with the 'Mafia' at some stage? Same with our Frank Sinatra?

At the end of the day, if an actor beats up his wife, or likes to donate his fortunes to the McDonald's to 'Old Calcutta' who cares.

It's that frame we all stare at for 90 minutes or so that counts. Have their private lives affected what's going on on the screen? no.

BTW. I accidentally trod on a snail tonight. Tomorrow in 'The Sun' I'll be classed a mass murdered seeking revenge on our little slimy friends.

[double o ego]

I was being sarcastic.

Ahh, sorry your sarcasm was wasted on me. Perhaps the addition of smiley faces may help next time. ; )

Far from being open your comments seem to encompass a lot more than just 12 year olds.

Indeed it does but the underlying point I'm making is the same. It goes for anyone of any age. 12, 20, 50 or 90. If knowledge on a certain subject matter isn't upto scratch and is being passed off as legitimate and credible, that's just not right.

[honeyjes]

I was being sarcastic.

Ahh, sorry your sarcasm was wasted on me. Perhaps the addition of smiley faces may help next time. ; )

Far from being open your comments seem to encompass a lot more than just 12 year olds.

Indeed it does but the underlying point I'm making is the same. It goes for anyone of any age. 12, 20, 50 or 90. If knowledge on a certain subject matter isn't upto scratch and is being passed off as legitimate and credible, that's just not right.

Sarcasm aside I just find your POV jaundiced. Having knowledge doesn't always go hand in hand with perception.

[double o ego]

True but like I said before, there are varying levels of credibility. I'd rather favour the advice of someone more affiliated with a subject matter than the chiming ins of a noob. Lise Rosa Klebb once said in FRWL, there's no substitute for experience.

[Daddy Bond]

I was being sarcastic.

Ahh, sorry your sarcasm was wasted on me. Perhaps the addition of smiley faces may help next time. ; )

Far from being open your comments seem to encompass a lot more than just 12 year olds.

Indeed it does but the underlying point I'm making is the same. It goes for anyone of any age. 12, 20, 50 or 90. If knowledge on a certain subject matter isn't upto scratch and is being passed off as legitimate and credible, that's just not right.

Sarcasm aside I just find your POV jaundiced. Having knowledge doesn't always go hand in hand with perception.

True. However, generally, knowledge USUALLY does go hand in hand with perception. Likewise, a lack of knowledge often means an inability to perceive properly. So, it's generally safer to go with the one who has knowledge on a subject as having greater perception than the one who does not.

[honeyjes]

My posts were intended to highlight the fact that the MTV generation goes back to the mid 70's so it seemed a little dumb for a 23 year old to pour scorn on them when trying to make an informed point.

[Daddy Bond]

My posts were intended to highlight the fact that the MTV generation goes back to the mid 70's so it seemed a little dumb for a 23 year old to pour scorn on them when trying to make an informed point.

Yeah, MTV started all the way back in 1981 (almost 27 years ago).

[double o ego]

The term MTV generation doesn't mean from the birth of MTV per sa BUT the moment MTV stopped being "MTV" and became a channel for snot nosed teenagers, having unlimited access to mind-numbing, lame reality tv shows where they don't even show/play music anymore.

[dodge]

I dislike Sean Connery.

And this is not solely based on hearsay, but experiences of people close to me which I'm not going into here.

Though I will say that - when Cubby Broccoli's memorial was held in London in November 1996 - Connery was asked to contribute by Dana Broccoli. He declined putting in an appearance (Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan made the effort though) on the grounds he was not in the country at that time. Now I'm pretty sure he was then on the evening news that very night supporting some BRAVEHEART-fuelled "Scottish" cause and was probably in the country.

I know Connery worked hard and sacrificed a great deal for the Bond series. But the people behind the films always paid him fairly (and often above fairly) and put him in a position that DARBY O'GILL AND THE LITTLE PEOPLE and bit parts as rubbish hoods would never have allowed.

And to then say he is done with Bond, but to have a cheque lure him back THREE TIMES* speaks volumes about the man (* for DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER, NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN and EA Games' FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE). He was from a different era of male identity granted, but civility and gratitude are timeless.

Well argued, as always. And a welcome break from the digression on 12-year olds. I'd say Connery and Laz had one huge thing in common: an undeniable sense of the real essence of the inner man on screen. I revere them both as Bond. But a few minutes' screen time will tell you Con was the far greater bastard. Indeed, he seems to be one of QT's Inglorious Bastards. His acting chops are undiminished. But the sense of the genuine s.o.b. at his core--and knowing in our bones that he ain't only acting--gives Connery's Bond, so far, the ultimate edge.

[goose007]

What can u say he is Bond!!!

[DR76]

What can u say he is Bond!!!

No. He is Sean Connery.

[SPOTTER]

WHO DISLIKES CONNERY?

NOT ME!!!