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[Vauxhall]

Ahh very interesting. Perhaps MI6 therefore use Mr White as a sort of double agent to get to Dominic Greene then.

[HildebrandRarity]

I can confirm that

Spoiler

Mr. White

is also in bregenz...

...extras from my 007-board saw him sitting 3 rows in front of them.

Did they see a pair of crutches on the seat beside him too?

[Vauxhall]

Another thought has just come to me... If Mr White is at the opera in Bregenz, then presumably he doesn't get killed by a traitor during the interrogation in Siena?

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

I can confirm that

Spoiler

Mr. White

is also in bregenz watching the opera. some german extras from my 007-board saw him sitting 3 rows in front of them.

How can

Spoiler

Mr. White

be in the Opera if he

Spoiler

was shot in the kneecap by Bond?

I'm afraid his doctor wouldn't like that.

Edited by Nicolas Suszczyk, 09 May 2008 - 11:06 PM.

[HildebrandRarity]

Another thought has just come to me... If Mr White is at the opera in Bregenz, then presumably he doesn't get killed by a traitor during the interrogation in Siena?

It looks like the traitor does his job in a round about way and Mr White somehow ends up in Austria at some sort of Quantum group meeting. Either that OR they let him THINK that they've messed up and he 'escapes'.

I can confirm that

Spoiler

Mr. White

is also in bregenz watching the opera. some german extras from my 007-board saw him sitting 3 rows in front of them.

How can

Spoiler

Mr. White

be in the Opera if he

Spoiler

was shot in the kneecap by Bond?

I'm afraid his doctor wouldn't like that.

He still has the other one fully operational.

the most interesting quesion for me is where to fit Bregenz into the overall story. The report I link ( http://www.spiegel.d...,552544,00.html ) says that Scene 65 N6 was shot in Bregenz. After how many minutes in the movie can we expect that? Any ideas?

Definite ones.

Bond take Mr White in his Aston through Lake Garda and the marble quarries ultimately to Siena. In the safehouse, it looks like Bond messes up and chases the traitor. Mr White either legitimately escapes or thinks MI6 has screwed up and escapes (with the possibility being MI6 decide they are not getting anywhere and covertly plan to tail him).

Bregenz is AFTER Italy and BEFORE Haiti and Bolivia, i.e. the begining of Act 2, most likely 40 to 45 minutes into the movie, when Bond picks up the trail of Mr White again. I suspect Bond kills Mr White in Austria before moving on the the other villians in Q0S in Haiti and Bolivia*.

*EDITED. Original post said Austria which was a pure brain fade. Meant Bolivia. Sorry that.

[Vauxhall]

I believe that Austria may be after Haiti and before Bolivia. It seems a bit odd to me, but that fits in with the different scene numbers that I know so far.

[00Twelve]

I believe that Austria may be after Haiti and before Bolivia. It seems a bit odd to me, but that fits in with the different scene numbers that I know so far.

In the IGN/Rotten Tomatoes articles, it sounded like the Tosca scene in Bregenz happens pretty early on. Like, Mr. White's even there.

Dunno, just throwing that out.

[HildebrandRarity]

I believe that Austria may be after Haiti and before Bolivia. It seems a bit odd to me, but that fits in with the different scene numbers that I know so far.

I don't understand the sequenceing with respect to scene numbers. Are scene numbers for films based on a movie's chronological order...or based on the order in which the production's shooting them?

Why would Bond travel all the way from central Europe to the Latin Carribean back to central Europe and then down to South America and then back to Eastern Europe (Moscow)? That seems like a lot of cris-crossing.

[Shrublands]

I believe that Austria may be after Haiti and before Bolivia. It seems a bit odd to me, but that fits in with the different scene numbers that I know so far.

I don't understand the sequenceing with respect to scene numbers. Are scene numbers for films based on a movie's chronological order...or based on the order in which the production's shooting them?

Why would Bond travel all the way from central Europe to the Latin Carribean back to central Europe and then down to South America and then back to Eastern Europe (Moscow)? That seems like a lot of cris-crossing.

Scene numbers follow the film

[Skudor]

[quote name='Shrublands' post='869279' date='11 May 2008 - 08:13'][quote name='HildebrandRarity' post='869228' date='11 May 2008 - 02:55'][quote name='Vauxhall' post='869217' date='11 May 2008 - 01:35']I believe that Austria may be after Haiti and before Bolivia. It seems a bit odd to me, but that fits in with the different scene numbers that I know so far.[/quote]

I don't understand the sequenceing with respect to scene numbers. Are scene numbers for films based on a movie's chronological order...or based on the order in which the production's shooting them?

Why would Bond travel all the way from central Europe to the Latin Carribean back to central Europe and then down to South America and then back to Eastern Europe (Moscow)? That seems like a lot of cris-crossing.
[/quote]
Scene numbers follow the film

[Shrublands]

Which is interesting, considering that the film starts in 2006, right after the events of Casino Royale. This could be the first Bond film to (almost) explicitly take place in the past.

Umm

[Skudor]

[quote name='Shrublands' post='870378' date='14 May 2008 - 16:41'][quote name='Skudor' post='870368' date='14 May 2008 - 16:06']Which is interesting, considering that the film starts in 2006, right after the events of Casino Royale. This could be the first Bond film to (almost) explicitly take place in the past.[/quote]

Umm

[Invincible1958]

I'm an extra on the austria scenes at the opera. And we got 'tickets' for the opera. And it takes place in August 2008.

I don't know if the date will be seen on screen. But these events take place in the present. Bond films always take place in the present.
I know: it doesn't make sense, because we saw 2006-dates on the mobile phones in CR - but that's the movie universe.

And it doesn't matter, I think.

Or: QoS begins in 2006. And after 10 minutes it says: 2 years later. Like in 'GoldenEye' when the pre-title sequence took place before the wall came down. We'll see.

But I think the real time won't play any important role.

[Invincible1958]

Nice to see u here Invincible! How was Bregenz? Kamran_Shah (LeChiffre)

It was a great experience.
When I have time, I will write a little bit about the whole adventure.

[Matt_13]

Has anyone here seen this Today Show clip yet? It isn't bad, bu doesn't really shed any new light on what we didn't already know.

[Double-0-7]

True, nothing particularly new. But the more we see, the more promising it looks. The reporter had pretty good access to some of the key people, I think the warm-up has begun!

[MarcAngeDraco]

I'm an extra on the austria scenes at the opera. And we got 'tickets' for the opera. And it takes place in August 2008.

Ah, a very interesting detail. Thanks Invincible1958!

Will be rather interesting to see how they handle the timeline then (or how they choose to ignore it)...

[Shrublands]

[quote name='Shrublands' post='870378' date='14 May 2008 - 16:41'][quote name='Skudor' post='870368' date='14 May 2008 - 16:06']Which is interesting, considering that the film starts in 2006, right after the events of Casino Royale. This could be the first Bond film to (almost) explicitly take place in the past.[/quote]

Umm

[Invincible1958]

But as I said: I don't think that one will see the date on the tickets in the movie.
I think there won't be any mentioning of real dates in the whole movie.

[Captain Tightpants]

If they can ignore the fact that Bond is played by six different men and doesn't seem to age (aside from the obvious Sir Rog stuff), I'm pretty sure they can ignore the date the film is set. The day and the month can't be ignored because the Palio di Siena only ever takes place on two days of the year, but there's nothing to say the year needs to be acknowledged - much less mentioned - in the film.

[Invincible1958]

If they can ignore the fact that Bond is played by six different men and doesn't seem to age ...

I think that has nothing to do with "ignore the fact". James Bond is a fictional character. EVERY fictional character can be played by many actors. Otherwise every theatre play only could be produced once with the original cast.

And of course Bond is aging. But age is of no importance with Bond. Because it's never important to the story.
Of course it's more than unrealistic that one single secret agent has to solve 22 big adventures in his carrer like Bond does. But the character 'James Bond' can be reset with every movie. There are small links between some of the movies. Nevertheless every Bond movie stands alone.
So Bond can be reset. And the Bond universe can be reset with every new movie.

The main rule is: 007 always takes place in the present. And if QoS starts 1 hour after CR, then they can just pretend that in QoS-time CR took place in the summer of 2008 and not 2006.
Everything that happens, happens in the present. And everything that happened, happened shortly before the present. That's it. That's the way the did it for 46 years. And that's the way the will continue.

And I don't see any problem with that.

[mcdonbb]

If they can ignore the fact that Bond is played by six different men and doesn't seem to age ...

I think that has nothing to do with "ignore the fact". James Bond is a fictional character. EVERY fictional character can be played by many actors. Otherwise every theatre play only could be produced once with the original cast.

And of course Bond is aging. But age is of no importance with Bond. Because it's never important to the story.
Of course it's more than unrealistic that one single secret agent has to solve 22 big adventures in his carrer like Bond does. But the character 'James Bond' can be reset with every movie. There are small links between some of the movies. Nevertheless every Bond movie stands alone.
So Bond can be reset. And the Bond universe can be reset with every new movie.

The main rule is: 007 always takes place in the present. And if QoS starts 1 hour after CR, then they can just pretend that in QoS-time CR took place in the summer of 2008 and not 2006.
Everything that happens, happens in the present. And everything that happened, happened shortly before the present. That's it. That's the way the did it for 46 years. And that's the way the will continue.

And I don't see any problem with that.

everything happens in the present or...whatever...good point evenif it did give me a headache

I think the time now is to move on to a new topic...while the time is right..

[Shrublands]

The main rule is: 007 always takes place in the present. And if QoS starts 1 hour after CR, then they can just pretend that in QoS-time CR took place in the summer of 2008 and not 2006.
Everything that happens, happens in the present. And everything that happened, happened shortly before the present. That's it. That's the way the did it for 46 years. And that's the way the will continue.

And I don't see any problem with that.

Very nicely put.

[Marketto007]

Has anyone here seen this Today Show clip yet? It isn't bad, bu doesn't really shed any new light on what we didn't already know.

It was a couple weeks back, when they've started production in Bregenz. BTW, thanks to accessing my videos!!!

xxx