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Should Quarrel be resurected?


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#1 Byron

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 12:36 PM

I'm a huge fan of Quarrel the Cayman Islander, Bond's trusted offsider. The literary character is brilliant (LALD, DN) as is the cinematic one (DN).

1) Does anyone else here like Quarrel?

2) With the reboot of the Craig era, should Quarrel be resurrected in any future films (perhaps featuring a Caribbean location)?

I'd really like to see Quarrel back.

#2 00Twelve

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 01:38 PM

If they were to go down the road I personally hope for and film a first-time adaptation of the story in the LALD novel, then absolutely. Quarrel was a fantastic character in both novels in which he appeared, and I was fond of him in the DN film as well.

#3 Simon

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 02:15 PM

I think he's a hoot and I was going to suggest Quarrel jnr jnr, following on from LALD's character insertion.

However, since we've gone back in time in the future, who knows what to call him.

Perhaps just Quarrel Resurrected.

#4 Mister Asterix

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 03:15 PM

I think he's a hoot and I was going to suggest Quarrel jnr jnr, following on from LALD's character insertion.



Or perhaps Sharkey Jr.

#5 George Lazenby

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 04:45 PM

I like Quarrel, I think he should return but only if it can be done properly.

#6 dodge

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 04:47 PM

Bring him back, I love the dude: As Quarrel, Quarrel Jr. or Quarrel III, I don't care. Don't allow logic to get in the way of a Magic Movie Moment.

#7 Quantumofsolace007

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 05:01 PM

I'd Hoeslty prefer Fidel Barberry (spelling) to be used in that regards as he never got an on screen time Quarrel got 2 technically 3.

#8 Single-O-Seven

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 05:59 PM

Bond, Leiter, and M have all been reused, redone, and rebooted. There's no reason Quarrel can't be. Hopefully it's in the manner of the novels, where we see him pop up a couple of times, perhaps in redone versions of LALD and DN. Anything is up for grabs now.

#9 Dell Deaton

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 06:04 PM

Much as I like Quarrel in both the novels and the movies, I'd rather see them wait on this in favor of really developing the folks they've already got (eg, Mathis, Leiter). Get those down first, really substantively.

Then let's add Strangways as well! I also liked the way in which the random player from Casino Royale was brought back for a cameo in Goldfinger (see Ian Fleming's novels).

#10 MkB

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 07:08 PM

I'd like to see a Quarrel or Quarrel-like character back! I'm not sure it's be easy to reintroduce a formerly dead Quarrel character (Leiter never died in the franchise, did he?), but a similar character with a different name would do for me.

#11 sidspappy

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 11:06 PM

Yeah they can bring him back. They will rename him Jar-Jar Binks.

"Yousa say we gonna go to da island? Nossir, meesa seen da dragon, Bossman! Yousa gonna die!"

In other words, he isn't going to happen in any shape or form like his original movie character - who is today considered a mildly racist characterization of the native Jamaican.

As was Jar-Jar.

I don't think it likely Quarrel will ever return. My predicition is that EON will move further and further away from the Fleming writing as time goes on. At most, we will see titles and token scenarios lifted from Fleming's books.

#12 MarcAngeDraco

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 11:23 PM

In other words, he isn't going to happen in any shape or form like his original movie character - who is today considered a mildly racist characterization of the native Jamaican.


Well, clearly if he were brought back in a film placed in the present, the character would have to be updated a bit. (Although perhaps not as much as some might think, based on some of the Carribean natives that I've met). And, just for the record, Quarrel is not Jamaican but rather a Cayman Islander.

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 11:36 PM

Well, clearly if he were brought back in a film placed in the present, the character would have to be updated a bit. (Although perhaps not as much as some might think, based on some of the Carribean natives that I've met). And, just for the record, Quarrel is not Jamaican but rather a Cayman Islander.

Ah, I stand corrected. But if you rework the character, then do you lose the appeal that many here look back on fondly?

#14 Qwerty

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 11:45 PM

Much as I like Quarrel in both the novels and the movies, I'd rather see them wait on this in favor of really developing the folks they've already got (eg, Mathis, Leiter). Get those down first, really substantively.


I'll agree with that, despite also being fan of the Quarrel character.

Introducing a few other unused Fleming characters at a later date, such as “The Hildebrand Rarity”'s Fidele Barbey, could also work.

#15 TheSaint

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 03:25 AM

I really don't care if they bring him back in the new films. They should've made Sharkey in LTK Quarrel Jr. I didnt see the need to create a new, Quarrel-like character for that film.

#16 Blonde Bond

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Posted 27 April 2008 - 10:27 AM

"Yousa say we gonna go to da island? Nossir, meesa seen da dragon, Bossman! Yousa gonna die!"


:tup:

You're so right. I'm not so sure a literal depiction of Quarrel character would work today. He would need a serious face lift for these modern times. We'll maybe not so heavy handed face lift. Just call him Sharky Jr and everyone will be happy. Right?

edit: But the question might have been; Should Quarrel be resurected?

No. If it's not really all that necessary, then just leave him be. He only was in two books and made it into the big silver screen. Twice... so to speak.

#17 Dell Deaton

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Posted 27 April 2008 - 11:44 AM

The next logical question to me is "why?"

In the novels, Bond developed a strong relationship w/ Quarrel that I felt and understood as a reader. When Quarrel appeared again in a subsequent novel, it had a feeling of "coming home" for me, as it seemed to for 007 ~ and perhaps also a feeling of relaxed safety. Quarrel's death then becomes more powerful.

This was missing from the movies; I don't know how you go back to that. And would you want him back as a sacrificial lamb?

At least w/ Leiter, who "disagreed w/ something that ate him" twice, there was enough of a history for the payoff of feeling the pain of James Bond here and empathizing w/ his passion for revenge.

Again: How would you use Quarrel if we got him back?

#18 ACE

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Posted 27 April 2008 - 12:02 PM

No. Him dead.