The Events of Q0S Time Wise
#1
Posted 03 March 2008 - 02:59 AM
I'm trying to piece the events of this movie and i'm mulling over the time line. And i'm wondering if the events of Q0S occur over the course of one whole calender year.
We start Q0S during an Italian Summer (of 2006).
James Bond meets M outside during an English winter..we know its winter because of the overcoats and the snow/wet shoots of this past January in London.
This weekend we've seen some "spy shots" of DC, Bond actually, wearing a dark bomber jacket somewhere in either 'Bolivia' or 'Haiti'.
But Bond could not be in 'Haiti' in these spy shots...because a couple of people on these forums say that even in winter, Haiti is not exactly cool, especially in broad daylight.
So, it has to be 'Bolivia', BUT it has to be at a time of year when its cooler...i.e. winter...which would make it during the northern hemisphere's summer, during (as an example) an Austrian summer (when you can have an outdoor opera on a floating stage)
This means that five or six months have to pass in the movie between:
The end of CR and the meeting with M outside in London (which takes place when its snowing);
AND
Also some months, perhaps six months pass between the London winter and the Bolivian winter, which, of course, occurs during the same time as the Austrian summer.
Does that makes sense? It means the events of Q0S take place over the course of an entire calander year. Or, there is a possiblility that the events of Q0S take place over two calander years!
What do people think of that?
#2
Posted 03 March 2008 - 03:15 AM
u have way to much time on ur hands. lol i see what u mean tho.Or, perhaps, even two years?
I'm trying to piece the events of this movie and i'm mulling over the time line. And i'm wondering if the events of Q0S occur over the course of one whole calender year.
We start Q0S during an Italian Summer (of 2006).
James Bond meets M outside during an English winter..we know its winter because of the overcoats and the snow/wet shoots of this past January in London.
This weekend we've seen some "spy shots" of DC, Bond actually, wearing a dark bomber jacket somewhere in either 'Bolivia' or 'Haiti'.
But Bond could not be in 'Haiti' in these spy shots...because a couple of people on these forums say that even in winter, Haiti is not exactly cool, especially in broad daylight.
So, it has to be 'Bolivia', BUT it has to be at a time of year when its cooler...i.e. winter...which would make it during the northern hemisphere's summer, during (as an example) an Austrian summer (when you can have an outdoor opera on a floating stage)
This means that five or six months have to pass in the movie between:
The end of CR and the meeting with M outside in London (which takes place when its snowing);
AND
Also some months, perhaps six months pass between the London winter and the Bolivian winter, which, of course, occurs during the same time as the Austrian summer.
Does that makes sense? It means the events of Q0S take place over the course of an entire calander year. Or, there is a possiblility that the events of Q0S take place over two calander years!
What do people think of that?
#3
Posted 03 March 2008 - 03:19 AM
#4
Posted 03 March 2008 - 03:59 AM
That all sounds extremely feasible, Hildebrand. I think a long timescale for QUANTUM OF SOLACE is very likely, especially given the relatively short period of time elapsed in CASINO ROYALE.
#5
Posted 03 March 2008 - 04:30 AM
#6
Posted 03 March 2008 - 12:38 PM
Maybe he needs a year to find Mr. White's hideout. This would not be very believable but mathematical absolutely possible.
But we still have a half year after all.
And I don't see this new pics as very hibernal.
#7
Posted 03 March 2008 - 01:33 PM
#8
Posted 03 March 2008 - 01:56 PM
Might as well repeat my post from the other thread here in the relevant area.
That all sounds extremely feasible, Hildebrand. I think a long timescale for QUANTUM OF SOLACE is very likely, especially given the relatively short period of time elapsed in CASINO ROYALE.
The events of Casino Royale span anywhere from 6/7 months to 1y and 6/7 months:
The PTS takes place in winter in the Czech Republic and the events end in either the summer of 2006...or, if it took Bond a year to track White down, the summer of 2007.
What did you say in your other post, Vauxhall?
#9
Posted 03 March 2008 - 02:32 PM
Why do some people insist that this jacket is leather? It's a light jacket made out of fabric not leather.
#10
Posted 03 March 2008 - 02:45 PM
Dark bomber jacker?
Why do some people insist that this jacket is leather? It's a light jacket made out of fabric not leather.
So you're saying that bomber jackets are ONLY made of leather?
Also, why is he wearing ANY dark jacket, bomber or no, in the mid-day sun...unless it's winter?
#11
Posted 03 March 2008 - 04:40 PM
I think it may be because it can get pretty chilly up in the Andes no matter what time of year it is. I guess that we can't read too much into that particular clothing choice, seeing as in CASINO ROYALE, Bond wore a heavy leather jacket in Miami during July and a long sleeved sweater in Venice during August!Also, why is he wearing ANY dark jacket, bomber or no, in the mid-day sun...unless it's winter?
#12
Posted 03 March 2008 - 05:12 PM
You could just as easily say...Also, why is he wearing ANY dark jacket, bomber or no, in the mid-day sun...unless it's winter?
Why would someone be wearing sunglasses and a thin, lightweight jacket (regardless of colour) in the winter?
#13
Posted 03 March 2008 - 05:37 PM
I think it may be because it can get pretty chilly up in the Andes no matter what time of year it is. I guess that we can't read too much into that particular clothing choice, seeing as in CASINO ROYALE, Bond wore a heavy leather jacket in Miami during July and a long sleeved sweater in Venice during August!Also, why is he wearing ANY dark jacket, bomber or no, in the mid-day sun...unless it's winter?
He was wearing a jacket at night after getting off an airplane. It can get cool and windy at night in Florida.
But i'm only speculating here in terms of the time frame of the events of Q0S...i'm not saying i'm "right" or the like...i'm merely trying to see if anyone here has any thoughts about the length of time covered by the movie moreso than whether or not he should be wearing a jacket in summer or winter during the day in 'Bolivia'.
I hope more to focus in on the "time" element than the "fashion" (which I also have an interest in) element in this thread.
You could just as easily say...
Why would someone be wearing sunglasses and a thin, lightweight jacket (regardless of colour) in the winter?
But would saying or asking that answer the question about what span of time is covered by the events of Q0S?
What do you think, Shrublands? Are we looking at a few months? A year? Two?
I know both you and Vauxhall have been following things like the Italian chase sequence. If it's only one chase sequence, then we know that it takes place in the summer (of either '06 or '07). If they're filming more than one chase in 'Italy' then they could be filming for more than the sequence in and out of the pre-titles.
#14
Posted 03 March 2008 - 05:50 PM
You could just as easily say...
Why would someone be wearing sunglasses and a thin, lightweight jacket (regardless of colour) in the winter?
But would saying or asking that answer the question about what span of time is covered by the events of Q0S?
What do you think, Shrublands? Are we looking at a few months? A year? Two?
I think if you are saying it has to be a lot later because they are winter clothes then you are wrong. A light jacket and sunglasses says hot weather to me.
#15
Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:13 PM
I think if you are saying it has to be a lot later because they are winter clothes then you are wrong. A light jacket and sunglasses says hot weather to me.
So then 'when' is this sequence taking place?
#16
Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:58 PM
Yes, that's what I'm saying. A bomber jacket is what pilots wore back in the day and Bond looks nothing like a pilot. I looked up the word in the dictionary and it says it's usually made out of leather (so you got me there) but it also says it has an elastic waistband and wristbands so that jacket clearly doesn't fit the definition.Dark bomber jacker?
Why do some people insist that this jacket is leather? It's a light jacket made out of fabric not leather.
So you're saying that bomber jackets are ONLY made of leather?
Also, why is he wearing ANY dark jacket, bomber or no, in the mid-day sun...unless it's winter?
Light jackets can be worn in the sun/summer. That's why it's light.
#17
Posted 03 March 2008 - 07:04 PM
I think that both the initial car chase in Italy and the Siena chase take place in the summer (presumably of 2006). The Siena sequence is certainly in the summer due to the backdrop of the Palio horse race. I am then expecting a time lag up to the next portion of the story, especially if the M and Bond briefing scene in the snow fits into the plot at this juncture.I know both you and Vauxhall have been following things like the Italian chase sequence. If it's only one chase sequence, then we know that it takes place in the summer (of either '06 or '07). If they're filming more than one chase in 'Italy' then they could be filming for more than the sequence in and out of the pre-titles.
#18
Posted 04 March 2008 - 12:23 AM