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Paul Haggis Has 'No Idea' What "Quantum of Solace" Means


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#1 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 12:17 AM

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Bond screenwriter briefly discusses the forthcoming film


[box]Some four weeks after it was announced, you

#2 zencat

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 12:22 AM

Forget the title comment, this is the important part of this article, IMO.

[box]..."I haven

#3 coco1997

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 12:24 AM

Hmmm...in the grand scheme of things, I don't really think it matters. Surely countless great films have had confusing titles just as thousands of confusing films have had great titles.

I'm reminded of a scene from "The Simpsons," in an episode where Jay Sherman, the Critic, comes to Springfield to judge a film fair. When Jay and the committee of judges are sitting around debating which film to crown the best in show, Jay makes a comment about Barney Gumble's film, a tragic, black and white short narrative depicting an alcoholic at the end of his life:

"I vote for Barney Gumble's sensitive yet unfortunately titled film, Pukahantas."

:tup:

Edited by coco1997, 26 February 2008 - 12:27 AM.


#4 Leon

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 12:27 AM

Hmmm, well he didn't deal with the title while writing the script, it was decided long after he'd finished on it.

Whatever it ties into in the plot could have been written later on.

#5 Vauxhall

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 12:33 AM

Yeah, it seems a bit strange that Haggis doesn't know how the title fits into the plot, unless that was something added later by the producers. However, zencat is right - the most important part of this article is that Forster is said to be doing a great job. Good news for us!

#6 DaveBond21

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 12:33 AM

The title doesn't matter that much when it comes to Bond movies. But it's interesting that Haggis didn't have this title even in the back of his head when working on the script.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 01:13 AM

The title doesn't matter that much when it comes to Bond movies. But it's interesting that Haggis didn't have this title even in the back of his head when working on the script.

I wonder what he did, though... :tup:

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 01:14 AM

[quote name='zencat' post='842997' date='25 February 2008 - 18:22']Forget the title comment, this is the important part of this article, IMO.

[box]..."I haven

#9 The Dove

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 01:26 AM

Gah!! Do we really need more of those "I don't know what Quantum of Solace means" articles?? :tup:

#10 HildebrandRarity

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 01:30 AM

See what I mean!

[censored]ing Hollywood primadonnas!

I knew that these tabloid-types would try to steal the thunder from James Bond.

Haggis was lucky to grab on to an Ian Fleming story and we'll see how he does without Ian Fleming.

Haggis isn't even first writing credit on Q0S! Purvis and Wade are! So [censored] him and his kind!

#11 dinovelvet

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 01:39 AM

See what I mean!

[censored]ing Hollywood primadonnas!

I knew that these tabloid-types would try to steal the thunder of James Bond.

Haggis was lucky to grab on to an Ian Fleming story and we'll see how he does without Ian Fleming.

Haggis isn't even first writing credit on Q0S! Purvis and Wade are! So [censored] him and his kind!


The writing credits for QoS have not yet been established, I believe. In any case, how exactly is Paul Haggis a "tabloid-type"...? I don't remember seeing any TMZ footage of him vomiting outside a nightclub or anything, though perhaps I missed it.

#12 HildebrandRarity

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 01:44 AM

He's industry rag tabloid. Hollywood Reporter/Variety...that sort of thing.

And...check the official press release at the start-of-production news conference. He's got second writing credit on Quantum Of Solace BEHIND P+W!

He gets involved in one blockbuster (Casino Royale...which was mainly written by Ian Fleming and then P+W) and now he's the be-all-and-end-all of the James Bond franchise where the balance hangs on his every word?

[censored] that! James Bond is bigger than Connery or Brosnan or any one individual in the real world, let alone a hired gun of a writer!

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...He's coming across like an ungrateful little prick!

And of course "it's not (your) title", Paul. It's an Ian Fleming title, you prick...You know? Ian Fleming? The guy who actually created the character? Or have you now taken ownership of James Bond after 2nd and 3rd writing credit on 2 of 22 movies?

#13 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 02:58 AM

Well, somebody's bitter... :tup:

#14 Leon

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 03:02 AM

Woah, how do we know what his thoughts are? Journalists edit articles to put across a particular angle believe it or not. Maybe he's just sick of being asked what his thoughts on the title are is all.

Who says he doesn't like it? Read between the lines.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 03:09 AM

Geez, give the guy a break.

He was asked what the title means, and he said he didn't know, because, well, he doesn't know. Hard to answer a question you don't know the answer to with anything except "I don't know". He then says "it's not my title", which is, well, the truth, and an explanation as to why he couldn't answer what it means.

When asked what he thought of it, "no comment". Fair enough. Didn't want to bag it, and also wasn't willing to lie and pretend to like it.

Then closes with some positive publicity, saying that filming is "going very, very well. And Marc

#16 kneelbeforezod

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 03:42 AM

He gets involved in one blockbuster (Casino Royale...which was mainly written by Ian Fleming and then P+W) and now he's the be-all-and-end-all of the James Bond franchise where the balance hangs on his every word?

[censored] that! James Bond is bigger than Connery or Brosnan or any one individual in the real world, let alone a hired gun of a writer!

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...He's coming across like an ungrateful little prick!

And of course "it's not (your) title", Paul. It's an Ian Fleming title, you prick...You know? Ian Fleming? The guy who actually created the character? Or have you now taken ownership of James Bond after 2nd and 3rd writing credit on 2 of 22 movies?

lol... you are a little bit insane... but anyhoo...

The implication is that he doesn't like the title, and he's absolutely right about that. They didn't know what to call it, so they slapped a Fleming title on, and that is certainly the only reason it got chosen.

It's a terrible title but it really doesn't matter at all. If the film turns out great, then that is what the title will come to mean, and we will end up loving it.

Edited by kneelbeforezod, 26 February 2008 - 03:44 AM.


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Posted 26 February 2008 - 03:58 AM

I'm certinaly not interpeting the comments the same way that hildebrand is. I certianly don't think of Haggis as

a industry rag tabloid. Hollywood Reporter/Variety

. Haggis is actually one of the most respected screenwriters in Hollywood right now (correct me if I am wrong Zencat). Plus he has a couple Oscars to his credit - hardly makes one a hack.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 04:08 AM

Where's Harmsway when we need him????



This is his kinda post.

#19 Qwerty

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 04:09 AM

Now on the CBn main page...



Bond screenwriter briefly discusses the forthcoming film


#20 Harmsway

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 04:22 AM

Where's Harmsway when we need him????

After that, I feel like I have to fly in, cape flying in the wind behind me.

This is his kinda post.

Really? I didn't know I had a kind of post. :tup:

But anyway, people are making way too huge a deal out of this. So what if Haggis doesn't like the title?

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 04:27 AM

See what I mean!

[censored]ing Hollywood primadonnas!

I knew that these tabloid-types would try to steal the thunder from James Bond.

Haggis was lucky to grab on to an Ian Fleming story and we'll see how he does without Ian Fleming.

Haggis isn't even first writing credit on Q0S! Purvis and Wade are! So [censored] him and his kind!


He's industry rag tabloid. Hollywood Reporter/Variety...that sort of thing.

And...check the official press release at the start-of-production news conference. He's got second writing credit on Quantum Of Solace BEHIND P+W!

He gets involved in one blockbuster (Casino Royale...which was mainly written by Ian Fleming and then P+W) and now he's the be-all-and-end-all of the James Bond franchise where the balance hangs on his every word?

[censored] that! James Bond is bigger than Connery or Brosnan or any one individual in the real world, let alone a hired gun of a writer!

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...He's coming across like an ungrateful little prick!

And of course "it's not (your) title", Paul. It's an Ian Fleming title, you prick...You know? Ian Fleming? The guy who actually created the character? Or have you now taken ownership of James Bond after 2nd and 3rd writing credit on 2 of 22 movies?

...did Paul Haggis park in your space? And neglect to pay the meter?

Oh, leave him alone. He didn't come up with the title, and accordingly, he doesn't have to think it's the most amazingly tremendously jolly great orgiastic title ever.

In case you missed it, he isn't the only one who dislikes it. Apparently.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 04:31 AM

Where's Harmsway when we need him????

Right here.

This is his kinda post.

Really? I didn't know I had a kind of post. :tup:

But anyway, people are making way too huge a deal out of this. So what if Haggis doesn't like the title?


Yeah, you seem to know a lot about scripts, plus aren't you a fan of Paul Haggis? I thought if it as your kinda post. Plus, I thought you'd be interested in the gunbarrel news too.

#23 Mr Teddy Bear

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 04:46 AM

[quote name='TaoMike' post='843018' date='26 February 2008 - 10:44'][quote name='zencat' post='842997' date='25 February 2008 - 18:22']Forget the title comment, this is the important part of this article, IMO.

[box]..."I haven

#24 Harmsway

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:28 AM

Yeah, you seem to know a lot about scripts, plus aren't you a fan of Paul Haggis?

Being a Paul Haggis fan is a bit strong (I've criticized him in the past, not being a big fan of MILLION DOLLAR BABY or CRASH), but I will defend the guy, especially as he relates to Bond.

Plus, I thought you'd be interested in the gunbarrel news too.

I didn't know that this article commented on the gunbarrel at all.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:31 AM

Yeah, you seem to know a lot about scripts, plus aren't you a fan of Paul Haggis?

Being a Paul Haggis fan is a bit strong (I've criticized him in the past, not being a big fan of MILLION DOLLAR BABY or CRASH), but I will defend the guy, especially as he relates to Bond.

Plus, I thought you'd be interested in the gunbarrel news too.

I didn't know that this article commented on the gunbarrel at all.


:tup: It doesn't. I was interested that you hadn't yet replied to that particular thread.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 05:35 AM

Plus, I thought you'd be interested in the gunbarrel news too.

I didn't know that this article commented on the gunbarrel at all.

:tup: It doesn't. I was interested that you hadn't yet replied to that particular thread.

Ah, I see.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 06:22 AM

I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed he doesn't give Fleming credit. Surely he knows where the title came from. (I would be even more disappointed if he didn't.)

But, yes, nice to hear the production is going so well it deserves two "very"s.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 08:26 AM

Jeez, I remember when Haggis was flavour of the month for his work on CR. Everybody was begging for him to be brought back for Bond 22.

Now, everybody is a hater.

Something wrong there...

#29 David Schofield

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 09:20 AM

But is he pissed off its not his title?

Surely, in his engagement by EON and knowing their history, he must surely have known that was beyond his control?

No deal breaker. But perhaps he just feels his creative spirit has been insulted?

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 09:20 AM

He's industry rag tabloid. Hollywood Reporter/Variety...that sort of thing.

And...check the official press release at the start-of-production news conference. He's got second writing credit on Quantum Of Solace BEHIND P+W!

He gets involved in one blockbuster (Casino Royale...which was mainly written by Ian Fleming and then P+W) and now he's the be-all-and-end-all of the James Bond franchise where the balance hangs on his every word?

[censored] that! James Bond is bigger than Connery or Brosnan or any one individual in the real world, let alone a hired gun of a writer!

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...He's coming across like an ungrateful little prick!

And of course "it's not (your) title", Paul. It's an Ian Fleming title, you prick...You know? Ian Fleming? The guy who actually created the character? Or have you now taken ownership of James Bond after 2nd and 3rd writing credit on 2 of 22 movies?


Oh, calm down.