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[Dr.Mirakle32]

One character who always puzzled me in LICENCE TO KILL, is the sympathetic fisherman called Sharkey. He is clearly good friends with Bond and Leiter, and his death is obviously a blow to 007. Remember the Quarrels, Bond and Leiter's other good friends and allies who happened to be large, black fishermen? Is it possible that the Sharkey character is meant to be Quarrel Jr, from LALD? Being that LTK is partly based on the LALD novel, in which Quarrel makes his first appearance, was there meant to be a connection between the two characters?

In DR. NO, the original Quarrel first meets Bond, and is aleady partners with Leiter, and his son in LALD continues that friendship. Either Sharkey was one of his nicknames, or Bond and Leiter just happened to like hanging around big, black fisherman. The only thing that contradicts the Quarrel is Sharkey theory, is that Quarrel was a Cayman islander, and Sharkey has an American accent.

What do you think?

[TheSaint]

Sharkey SHOULD'VE BEEN Quarrel, Jr. Coming up with a similar character really didn't make much sense.

It's like Paola Ivanova in AVTAK-that should've been Anya Amasova.

[MicroGlobeOne]

Sharkey SHOULD'VE BEEN Quarrel, Jr. Coming up with a similar character really didn't make much sense.

It's like Paola Ivanova in AVTAK-that should've been Anya Amasova.

Well, it makes some sense, not to be contrary. It's clear to those that have read the novels that Sharkey is modeled on Quarrel, but there are any number of valid reasons for the filmmakers to craft a similar but different character, not least of which are the vast differences in the plot and the gap between films featuring the character.

At the very least, I simply can't agree that Paola Ivanova should have been Anya Amasova, given the context, the behaviors of the character, and the years between the films. In fact, I find it rather hard to imagine.

[Wade]

Sharkey SHOULD'VE BEEN Quarrel, Jr. Coming up with a similar character really didn't make much sense.

It's like Paola Ivanova in AVTAK-that should've been Anya Amasova.

Well, it makes some sense, not to be contrary. It's clear to those that have read the novels that Sharkey is modeled on Quarrel, but there are any number of valid reasons for the filmmakers to craft a similar but different character, not least of which are the vast differences in the plot and the gap between films featuring the character.

At the very least, I simply can't agree that Paola Ivanova should have been Anya Amasova, given the context, the behaviors of the character, and the years between the films. In fact, I find it rather hard to imagine.

It's not hard to imagine at all. In fact, many characters in the movies were meant originally to be returns of old friends from other movies. I've read stories that Anya in TSWLM was at one time going to be Tatiana from FRWL. Stromberg was supposed to be Blofeld. There were even rumors that Paris Carver in TND was once going to be Tiffany Case from DAF. It's not unheard of in the series. I think they don't do it more because they want each film to stand on its own. That's why there weren't directed references to Tracy in the series until TSWLM.

[coco1997]

Paris was meant to be Tiffany? Really? Do you remember where you read that, Wade?

[Mr. Blofeld]

I think it would've been more appropriate to have Paris be Pam Bouvier; they could have included a nice bit of Bond saying, "You should've asked me to," over her dead body or something...

[Mister Asterix]

[mra]Paris should have been Sylvia Trench.

And as far as I

[coco1997]

Indeed, and he also managed to lose his Jamaican accent.

[Mister Asterix]

Indeed, and he also managed to lose his Jamaican accent.

True, but remember that other fellow who lost his Scottish accent.

[00Twelve]

Now, why exactly is it that Sharkey is only supposed to be Quarrel? I had thought he was just as much an adaptation of Fidele Barbey as Quarrel. But there were equal parts LALD and THR in LTK, so I suppose it's 'to each his own'.

[Mister Asterix]

Now, why exactly is it that Sharkey is only supposed to be Quarrel? I had thought he was just as much an adaptation of Fidele Barbey as Quarrel. But there were equal parts LALD and THR in LTK, so I suppose it's 'to each his own'.

[mra]Well, that maybe why they changed the name since Sharkey was parts of multiple Fleming characters, but in the cinematic Bond world, the relationship between Felix and Sharkey suggests someone that Felix knows well. That would be much more likely to be Quarrel Jr given history from the movies

[Aston 2]

I don't have an opinion as to if Sharkey was Quarrel, but I directed Frank McRae (Sharkey) in a film and he was one of the finest people I ever worked with.

[Mr. Blofeld]

I don't have an opinion as to if Sharkey was Quarrel, but I directed Frank McRae (Sharkey) in a film and he was one of the finest people I ever worked with.

Good to hear, Aston.

[Qwerty]

I don't have an opinion as to if Sharkey was Quarrel, but I directed Frank McRae (Sharkey) in a film and he was one of the finest people I ever worked with.

Which film was that, Aston 2?

[Double-0-Seven]

[quote name='Mister Asterix' post='835634' date='9 February 2008 - 13:17'][mra]Paris should have been Sylvia Trench.

And as far as I

[MarcAngeDraco]

I guess Sharkey was sort of the equivalent of Quarrel, but given the location it made more sense to have an American rather than a Jamaican/Cayman Islander.

Plus they already had Quarrel, killed him off, brought him back as Quarrel Jr (which I never cared much for the way they handled that anyway)...

I guess Sharkey could have been Quarrel III.

[Mr. Blofeld]

I guess Sharkey could have been Quarrel III.

Oh, are they a royal dynasty, now?

[Single-O-Seven]

I guess Sharkey could have been Quarrel III.

Oh, are they a royal dynasty, now?

Not a very lucky dynasty!

Anyway, I always wondered, given the long list of choices, they never selected a former character in place of Paris. Interesting to know they did consider it. Sylvia would have been a great choice, especially given she's the only one who ever had a long term relationship with Bond - which would have made her presence in TND much more poignant. Except, of course, to about 90 percent of the audience who wouldn't have known either way.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Anyway, I always wondered, given the long list of choices, they never selected a former character in place of Paris. Interesting to know they did consider it. Sylvia would have been a great choice, especially given she's the only one who ever had a long term relationship with Bond - which would have made her presence in TND much more poignant. Except, of course, to about 90 percent of the audience who wouldn't have known either way.

Why not Pam Bouvier, then? Certainly she would have been far more poignant.

[RivenWinner]

it always bothered me that they just threw Paris in there. It would have been nice if it was indeed a character we had previously been introduced to before in the series.

same thing with Paola Ivanova in AVTAK.

[DamnCoffee]

What about Holly Goodhead replacing Paris? Or one of the girls Bond sleps with in [film=99]On Her Majesty

[tdalton]

Anyway, I always wondered, given the long list of choices, they never selected a former character in place of Paris. Interesting to know they did consider it. Sylvia would have been a great choice, especially given she's the only one who ever had a long term relationship with Bond - which would have made her presence in TND much more poignant. Except, of course, to about 90 percent of the audience who wouldn't have known either way.

Why not Pam Bouvier, then? Certainly she would have been far more poignant.

I had always wondered why they didn't have a character from a previous movie in that part as well. Pam Bouvier would have been a pretty good choice for that, as would Sylvia Trench.