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[tdalton]

I think the crux of the issue here is that an action film these days is a very different animal to an action film made a quarter of a century ago.

Perhaps something like For Your Eyes Only does have twice as much action as Casino Royale. But the action in that film is relatively light, compared to the high-octane, in-yer-face, action we're seeing nowadays (with an accompanying soundtrack blasting out at ten million decibels). As a result, the action in something like Casino Royale feels a lot more overpowering than the type of action we saw in the older films. Even if there is less of it. Doubling that type of action could be too much. Which is obviously what's concerning some people.

Completely, 100% agreed.

[Harmsway]

I'd be all in favor of tweaking the free-running sequence.

So would I, and I've said as much. I'm not particularly fond of the jumping from crane to crane to building, as jaw-droppingly spectacular as that is (and it really is one of the best stunts in the franchise history).

Have Bond catch up to him before they both climb up the crane, and everything would have been OK.

Then you'd lose the best parts of the sequence, which are after the crane. The chase through the construction building is by far the most thrilling section of the sequence.

But, as the entire sequence stands, it does not fit in with the supposed "realistic" theme that they were going for.

It doesn't fit any more awkwardly on that count than 60% of the action in FOR YOUR EYES ONLY fits with its surrounding film.

[Matt_13]

BOURNE ULT. has some of the best action sequences ever filmed imo, all of which seem to flow seamlessly with the plot and aided only PARTIALLY with music. The fist fight in Tangier had no music at all and that made it all the more gritty and powerful. Now as much as I do love David Arnolds action scores in CR, I do think that at times they tend to be overpowering and could have easily been taken down a notch. For some action set pieces the music can help boost suspense and excitement, but there are times when it may just become a distraction.

[tdalton]

Have Bond catch up to him before they both climb up the crane, and everything would have been OK.

Then you'd lose the best parts of the sequence, which are after the crane. The chase through the construction building is by far the most thrilling section of the chase.

An alternative would be to have Bond chase Mollaka through the construction building without having had to go up the crane. Maybe jumping from the scaffolding that they're on before going up the crane into the building could have allowed for the construction building to remain without the awfulness of the crane sequence.

For me, though, I would have just preferred to see Bond chase him through the jungle for a slightly more extended period of time, and having both of them deal with the challenges and dangers that chasing someone through the jungle might present to them.

[Harmsway]

An alternative would be to have Bond chase Mollaka through the construction building without having had to go up the crane. Maybe jumping from the scaffolding that they're on before going up the crane into the building could have allowed for the construction building to remain without the awfulness of the crane sequence.

It would have been a nice change. But again, I don't see anything "awful" about the crane element of the sequence. Is the jump OTT? Yes, but no more so than Bond successfully going down the big jump in FOR YOUR EYES ONLY, having a jet-powered Aston Martin in THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS, or driving a tanker on two wheels in LICENCE TO KILL.

And is the surrounding crane scene or the jump itself awful? Not at all. It's still wonderfully staged and choreographed, beautifully filmed, and thrilling, which puts it far above most action in the franchise.

[tdalton]

An alternative would be to have Bond chase Mollaka through the construction building without having had to go up the crane. Maybe jumping from the scaffolding that they're on before going up the crane into the building could have allowed for the construction building to remain without the awfulness of the crane sequence.

It would have been a nice change. But again, I don't see anything "awful" about the crane element of the sequence. Is the jump OTT? Yes. But is the surrounding crane scene or the jump itself awful? Not at all. It's still wonderfully staged and choreographed, beautifully filmed, and thrilling, which puts it far above most action in the franchise.

Well, all of the film is very well filmed. The people who work behind the camera on the Bond films are just about always amongst the best at what they do, and the stunt team is top-notch, as always. The visual look of the film, for the most part, is great, it's just the unnecessary liberties that are taken with the original CR story and the sense of some parts of the action sequences being over the top detract greatly from the film for me.

Either way, however, I know that virtually everyone here has grown tired of hearing the same opinion from me over and over, and frankly, I've started to bore myself with it, and it's probably time for me to drop this particular argument for a while.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Well, all of the film is very well filmed. The people who work behind the camera on the Bond films are just about always amongst the best at what they do, and the stunt team is top-notch, as always. The visual look of the film, for the most part, is great, it's just the unnecessary liberties that are taken with the original CR story and the sense of some parts of the action sequences being over the top detract greatly from the film for me.

Either way, however, I know that virtually everyone here has grown tired of hearing the same opinion from me over and over, and frankly, I've started to bore myself with it, and it's probably time for me to drop this particular argument for a while.

It may get tiring for some, but I feel you state your opinions with a certain eloquence.

[Matt_13]

Well at least you can take some solace in knowing you aren't alone in your viewpoints.

[Harmsway]

The visual look of the film, for the most part, is great, it's just the unnecessary liberties that are taken with the original CR story and the sense of some parts of the action sequences being over the top detract greatly from the film for me.

But the equally over-the-top moments in FOR YOUR EYES ONLY, THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS, and LICENCE TO KILL don't stop you from calling them some of the greatest entries in the franchise, so I'm a little confused as to what the difference is.

Either way, however, I know that virtually everyone here has grown tired of hearing the same opinion from me over and over, and frankly, I've started to bore myself with it, and it's probably time for me to drop this particular argument for a while.

Fair enough.

[Royal Dalton]

An alternative would be to have Bond chase Mollaka through the construction building without having had to go up the crane. Maybe jumping from the scaffolding that they're on before going up the crane into the building could have allowed for the construction building to remain without the awfulness of the crane sequence.

For me, though, I would have just preferred to see Bond chase him through the jungle for a slightly more extended period of time, and having both of them deal with the challenges and dangers that chasing someone through the jungle might present to them.

Another alternative would have been to have Bond chase him through the building first, with them ending up on the crane afterwards.

Bond could have got the better of Mollaka, who, in desperation, decides to detonate his bomb, taking Bond with him. But Bond jumps onto the other crane just before the bomb explodes.

At least that would have saved us the embassy sequence, and Bond wouldn't have needed to shoot him (even though he said he wanted him alive).

[DamnCoffee]

Using the new footage released I've managed to put together two teaser trailers:

Quantum of Solace Teaser Trailer 1:



Quantum of Solace Teaser Trailer 2:


The News Rap is now on the official site btw.

[tdalton]

Looking at the video again, it does look as though the scenes featuring M, Bond, and Tanner are going to be quite good. It's definitely good to see Tanner back in the Bond films, and hopefully this time the character is more like he was in the books.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Looking at the video again, it does look as though the scenes featuring M, Bond, and Tanner are going to be quite good. It's definitely good to see Tanner back in the Bond films, and hopefully this time the character is more like he was in the books.

HUZZAH! A positive opinion from our reticent Dalton fan!

[tdalton]

Looking at the video again, it does look as though the scenes featuring M, Bond, and Tanner are going to be quite good. It's definitely good to see Tanner back in the Bond films, and hopefully this time the character is more like he was in the books.

HUZZAH! A positive opinion from our reticent Dalton fan!

The M/Bond scenes should turn out to be quite good anyway. They're featuring two of the best actors of the past several years (Craig and Dench). Along with that, they're being directed by a perennial Academy Award contender in Marc Forster, so I'm expecting that we're going to get something good here.

[Agent 76]

Looking at the video again, it does look as though the scenes featuring M, Bond, and Tanner are going to be quite good. It's definitely good to see Tanner back in the Bond films, and hopefully this time the character is more like he was in the books.

HUZZAH! A positive opinion from our reticent Dalton fan!

The M/Bond scenes should turn out to be quite good anyway. They're featuring two of the best actors of the past several years (Craig and Dench). Along with that, they're being directed by a perennial Academy Award contender in Marc Forster, so I'm expecting that we're going to get something good here.

Bond / M scenes were one of the things I liked most in Casino Royale. they look excellent on screen.

[Harmsway]

At least that would have saved us the embassy sequence, and Bond wouldn't have needed to shoot him (even though he said he wanted him alive).

I don't think there's any problem with Bond saying he wants Mollaka at the beginning of the chase and then shooting him later on. The situation had clearly changed, and it shows a complexity on Bond's part. Same with the "Allow me" comment during CR's finale, which is later followed with Bond tearfully clutching Vesper's body.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Looking at the video again, it does look as though the scenes featuring M, Bond, and Tanner are going to be quite good. It's definitely good to see Tanner back in the Bond films, and hopefully this time the character is more like he was in the books.

HUZZAH! A positive opinion from our reticent Dalton fan!

The M/Bond scenes should turn out to be quite good anyway. They're featuring two of the best actors of the past several years (Craig and Dench). Along with that, they're being directed by a perennial Academy Award contender in Marc Forster, so I'm expecting that we're going to get something good here.

Bond / M scenes were one of the things I liked most in Casino Royale; they look excellent on screen.

I agree; such seminal scenes are always superb when shot by a superior director.

[Jericho_One]

Great video!

I always thought that one of the main assets of portraying Bond onscreen, above all the glitz and money and stuff, is the opportunity to work your way around martial arts, handling guns, sport driving in fast cars, that kind of stuff that grown-up male kids usually like.
This videos shows just that.

[marktmurphy]

Just saw this video- really exciting stuff.

Here's a little something I noticed- during the rehearsal of the car stunts there's a very quick shot where we see Craig's car sliding around from the view of a passenger seat in another car- and knowing dashboards as I do (!) it's the dashboard of an Aston Martin!

[bond_azoozbond]

in IGN :Behind-The-Scenes Video

Edited by bond_azoozbond, 10 February 2008 - 05:58 PM.

[Emma]

That video was really great. I'm really excited. And I appreciate the release of that little featurette. It really demonstrates how much Eon respects their fan base. And I thought I was stoked about the next Batman film.....looks like I can't wait until November!