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[DanMan]

http://mi6forums.com...fe99ddd998f5a10

Hope no one minds me linking to the competition but there's certainly some interesting points raised in the above thread and I thought it would be good if we could continue the discussion over here. One of the posters over there referred to the plot of QOS as basically TND done correctly. It is pretty similar: Bussinessman aides exiled general take control of his former country in exchange for economic opportunity.

[Vauxhall]

This particular detail that the mysterious organisation is called "Green Planet" certainly slipped past my radar! So much news in the last few days. Very odd though - a villain called Dominic Greene and and an organisation called Green Planet.

[MkB]

This particular detail that the mysterious organisation is called "Green Planet" certainly slipped past my radar! So much news in the last few days. Very odd though - a villain called Dominic Greene and and an organisation called Green Planet.

Wouldn't they be making fun of Pierce Brosnan and his Green activism?

[dinovelvet]

http://mi6forums.com...fe99ddd998f5a10

Hope no one minds me linking to the competition but there's certainly some interesting points raised in the above thread and I thought it would be good if we could continue the discussion over here. One of the posters over there referred to the plot of QOS as basically TND done correctly. It is pretty similar: Bussinessman aides exiled general take control of his former country in exchange for economic opportunity.

But wasn't TND just basically TSWLM/YOLT done wrongly...?

[Mr. Blofeld]

But wasn't TND just basically TSWLM/YOLT done wrongly...?

And wasn't TSWLM basically YOLT done rightly...?

[Harmsway]

But wasn't TND just basically TSWLM/YOLT done wrongly...?

And wasn't TSWLM basically YOLT done rightly...?

Nah. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE got it right. All its imitators pale in comparison.

[MicroGlobeOne]

Nah. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE got it right. All its imitators pale in comparison.

I'll second that. I've always disregarded those claims that The Spy Who Loved Me recreates You Only Live Twice. The similarities are passing and superficial, and You Only Live Twice is a fine and vastly underrated film. Ah, but I digress.

It seems to me that we're taking this topic too serious. Surely Greene's organization, this so-called "Green Planet," is only a simple business front that has little or nothing to do with the larger threat. Surely the secret, international criminal conglomerate that he represents, the sinister organization referred to in Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace (AHEM, S.P.E.C.T.R.E., AHEM!) is something entirely different. Time will tell.

Edited by MicroGlobeOne, 27 January 2008 - 05:10 AM.

[tdalton]

It sounds to me, and please do correct me if I'm way off base, but Green Planet doesn't sound like it is the name of the Organization, but more like the front company for Dominic Green and his humanitarian work. I really don't think that Mr. White's organization is called Green Planet.

[Righty007]

Green Planet? Sounds like an Al Gore film.

[RazorBlade]

But wasn't TND just basically TSWLM/YOLT done wrongly...?

And wasn't TSWLM basically YOLT done rightly...?

Nah. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE got it right. All its imitators pale in comparison.

Agree. I can't for the life of me figure why anyone likes TSWLM.

[Royal Dalton]

It sounds to me, and please do correct me if I'm way off base, but Green Planet doesn't sound like it is the name of the Organization, but more like the front company for Dominic Green and his humanitarian work.

Absolutely. I suspect it'll turn out to be called Greene Planet, as well.

[stamper]

Agree.

Regarding YOLT, it was YOLT done right. Remember in the 60's, and up to DAF, each Bond movie added something new and was different from the other ones, thought using the same ingredients.

DR No set it up. FRWL added more scope. Goldfinger was basically a chase and robbery movie. Thunderball was a crazed, widescreen giant underwater war movie, and YOLT went crazier with Bond going to japan in a total foreign locale. OHMSS went real, and DAF added crazy humor. All these movies offered something new and you could expand. From Moore arrival, all the series was doing was repeating itself, there's not a single Bond made prior CR and after DAF, which offer something really new to the character or the series.

[Gobi-1]

Tomorrow Never Dies was done correctly the first time. Of all the films that repeated the You Only Live Twice plot and counting that film as well, Tomorrow Never Dies is my favorite.

I think Green Planet will simply be a front for The Organization such as SPECTRE's "The International Brotherhood for the Assistance of Stateless Persons" in Thunderball.

[JCRendle]

It sounds to me, and please do correct me if I'm way off base, but Green Planet doesn't sound like it is the name of the Organization, but more like the front company for Dominic Green and his humanitarian work. I really don't think that Mr. White's organization is called Green Planet.

If it is indeed Mr. White's Organisation.

[MarcAngeDraco]

It sounds to me, and please do correct me if I'm way off base, but Green Planet doesn't sound like it is the name of the Organization, but more like the front company for Dominic Green and his humanitarian work.

Absolutely. I suspect it'll turn out to be called Greene Planet, as well.

My first thought as well.

[Shrublands]

It sounds to me, and please do correct me if I'm way off base, but Green Planet doesn't sound like it is the name of the Organization, but more like the front company for Dominic Green and his humanitarian work.

Absolutely. I suspect it'll turn out to be called Greene Planet, as well.

My first thought as well.

Empire, who were the first to allude to

[Mr. Blofeld]

I think Green Planet will simply be a front for The Organization such as SPECTRE's "The International Brotherhood for the Assistance of Stateless Persons" in Thunderball.

I would say the same thing.

Anyhow, in response to stamper: Wasn't YOLT in and of itself just a rehash of Dr. No?

[HildebrandRarity]

I think Green Planet will simply be a front for The Organization such as SPECTRE's "The International Brotherhood for the Assistance of Stateless Persons" in Thunderball.

Bang on, Gobi-1!

[Bondian]

Green planet?. Maybe a cure for the common cold?.

How about natural water?. We haven't thought of that one yet.

[stamper]

Garden of death. Garden of death. Garden of death.

[Skudor]

This particular detail that the mysterious organisation is called "Green Planet" certainly slipped past my radar! So much news in the last few days. Very odd though - a villain called Dominic Greene and and an organisation called Green Planet.

I don't think Green Planet and THE Organisation are the same thing. GP is just a cover for this particular plot.

I suspect the coveted resource might be something to do with new energy (hydrogen perhaps?).

[Shrublands]

This particular detail that the mysterious organisation is called "Green Planet" certainly slipped past my radar! So much news in the last few days. Very odd though - a villain called Dominic Greene and and an organisation called Green Planet.

I don't think Green Planet and THE Organisation are the same thing. GP is just a cover for this particular plot.

Yes, it

[Skudor]

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[Shrublands]

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[Skudor]

The legal argument certainly seems to be the strongest (I really don't know how valid it is - it all seems very complicated now that NSNA is sort of in the official fold).

They might not use SPECTRE even if they could legally, purely because they feel it's better to have something new. But I would guess that if they could, they would. They seem quite keen on rooting the films in Fleming as much as possible, and using SPECTRE and Blofeld can definitely help with that.

[HawkEye007]

Green Planet is more than likely going to be a front for the main organization, and its more than likley ran by Mr. Greene himself.

Just from the name alone we can theorize that they GP has something to do with the environment. Now, since mining or something similar to it figures into the plot, whats the possibility of GP 'supposedly' using some kind of clean or green means to mine whatever the natural resource is that has been mentioned? Then through that, they horde said natural resource for themselves, in a play to sell it off at exorbitant prices on the world markets.

Just a thought.

[stamper]

I just hope they aren't going to use an emerald that will trigger a laser than can destroy whole cities. If this is it, Bond series is over.

[Skudor]

I just hope they aren't going to use an emerald that will trigger a laser than can destroy whole cities. If this is it, Bond series is over.

Not, thankfully they won't. Apparently it's a stuffed cat, not an emerald, that triggers the doomsday machine (with lots of pretty blinking lights).

[00Twelve]

Wikipedia, that bastion of reliable reference information, has on their QOS wiki page that Greene Planet is the name of the actual organization. Good ol' Wikipedia.

As for me, I agree that it's got to be Greene's front company. Seems pretty obvious.

[Righty007]

Wikipedia, that bastion of reliable reference information, has on their QOS wiki page that Greene Planet is the name of the actual organization. Good ol' Wikipedia.

As for me, I agree that it's got to be Greene's front company. Seems pretty obvious.

I just deleted that on Wikipedia.