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What would you have in the new trailer? (spoilers)


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#1 Blue Eyes

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 08:39 AM

Just wondering what people would put in the new trailer.

Personally, I'd have it start like this;

* Fox logo
* MGM logo
* Fade to black and then to:
* A green forest, almost perfectly silent except for the odd bird. Then:
* Boom, the forest gets destroyed in this supposedly awesome SFX we've been told about.
* A very quick glimpse of the gunbarrel.

I think starting it like that would have people wondering what trailer they were actually watching. They wouldn't starting off thinking it was a Bond film and I'm pretty certain it would draw them even further in to the film.

#2 DerrickD

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 08:48 AM

Sounds very cool. I'm just curious...is there somewhere online I can watch the Tomorrow Never Dies trailer? Or what's a good trailer to watch that has a teaser of the theme song in it? I'm not exactly up on my Bond trailers, but in anticipation of Friday and hearing the new Madonna song, I'd like to see what's been done in the past.

Anyhow I like the idea of the new trailer talking about "40 years ago..." and playing that clip from Dr. No...

#3 iceberg

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 09:01 AM

Derrick, try IMDB.com. Short for Internet Movie Database. It's a database that holds info on virtually every film ever made (ostensibly). But you should have no problem accessing TND's trailer. Just type the title into the box and click the SEARCH/GO button. Once the TND page comes up, the link TRAILER should be among those visible to the left. Click it, and follow the instructions....

Good luck....

#4 iceberg

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 09:16 AM

I think that's a great intro, Blue Eyes. It would definitely catch the audience off-guard.

All I really ask from the trailer is that it not be explicit as far as the plot twists. The trailer for TWINE was very good about protecting Elektra's duplicity and true nature. I just want the trailer for DAD to walk the fine line between being exciting and being enticing, and not too revealing. I don't want a trailer that gives away the major twists (to cite a non-Bond example: WHAT LIES BENEATH).

I guess we'll find out soon....

#5 FireKiss

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 09:39 AM

I don't know about content, but I'd like to see a self-contained story for once in a long while. For example, Goldfinger or Octopussy. My reasoning - the pre-title will become the style its often referred to as: a movie on its own! And also after the titles, Bond can start his mission without interruption by the titles and the filmakers can take this opportunity to explain the mission for our benefit. How about a pre-title without bond, or with only his voice/profile? It would certainly build up the suspense to actually seeing him.

#6 FireKiss

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 09:47 AM

Sorry about that, Got totally confused with trailers and pre-titles sequences.

#7 Jinx

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 10:21 AM

Bond James Bond

#8 Jim

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 10:29 AM

What the hell, here goes.

1. Fox logo...
2. ...which merges into MGM logo (i.e. the face changing thingy we've heard so little about)
3. Darkness, and then a sole flickering lightbulb illumnates a man shackled to a table. Bearded, broken, bruised, Brosnan.
4. Ooh, ooh, that I like...so, here come the Voiceover Man...
5. "Broken. Bruised. Burned. Betrayed..."
6. Quick zoom in as Brosnan raises his head, he no looky happy, and zoom close into his eye and the gunbarrel plays across it...
7 Voiceover man: "...Bond"
8. Let's have a black screen while I'm thinking of what comes next. Meanwhile, voiceover man continues.
9. "When what you thought you'd seen..."
10 Cue for some subliminal images of let's say: ski jump, golden girl, DB5, Q-boat...
11. "And who you thought you were..."
12. Subliminal images of the four predecessors, but not too many...
13. "And those you thought you loved..."
14. Subliminal images of let's say Tracy Bond and XXX and Pussy Galore and (because we must keep this up to date, and some folks have only seen the last three films) Elektra King, and bung some others in there...
15. "And those you thought you trusted..."
16. Images of M, Moneypenny, old M maybe...but maybe not Q, unfortunately
17. "Are taken away from you, who do you trust now...?"
18. Let's go back to Brosnan in the chair, and let's have him morph (sense a theme here?) from scruffy to the usual dinner jacket self and deliver the line "Bond. Only Bond", and then he raises his gun, fires towards the camera and out of the barrel of his gun zoom...
19 ...clips of this film, as voiceover man goes bonkers with...
20. "To save the world..." (suitable world saving action)
21. "To save the girl..." (suitable wrapping lips and limbs round various women)
22. "To save himself..." (suitable bits of...let's say the car chase...)
23. On [date], James Bond must..."
24. "Die Another Day"
25. "Pierce Brosnan is (as?) Ian Fleming's James Bond 007..." (or Albert R Broccoli's Eon Productions' Ian Fleming's James Bond 007, if that's not too exhausting)
26...and now we go back to smart Bond morphing back into the captive, bowing head, as camera pulls away and the cell door slams in our face...
27. "Die Another Day"
28....and on screen - James Bond: Released and Unleashed [date; say 22.11.02 e.g.]

I'd watch it, despite the fact it took me five minutes to think up.

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 11:54 AM

I like it....

#10 M_Balje

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 01:19 PM

litle shot's about 2 seconds from the urly movie's.
The gunbarrel

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 01:49 PM

I hope there will be memorable scene from previous movies and new shoots from DAD with a clip of Madonna's Die another day.

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 02:16 PM

I don't want too much, just a few snippets of shots from different parts of the film....the teaser only had stuff from two parts, I want a little more, but please no voice over that tries to give away the story....

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 04:11 PM

Here's what I'd like to see. There are potential spoilers in this, just to be safe.

1. The Fox logo, MGM logo. The lion is removed from it's circle, then the circle is now the gunbarrel.
2. The gunbarrel appears, but instead of Bond walking across in his tux, it's Bond in shackles in his prisoner garbs with the Korean prison, or him walking acrross the bridge. Beaten, bruised, betrayed, whatever he is at this point.
3. "When the people you trust have betrayed you...."
4. Scene in underground when Bond says:"You burned me. Now you want my help."
4. Cut to blackness. "Did you expect an apology?"
5. "And everyhting you're used to is lost..." Play Bond sipping a martini from past Bond films, and the folder that says "For Your Eyes Only"
6. "What do you do?"
7. Cut to prisoner Bond in interrogation room. He looks up, and the camera zooms into his iris. We can now see the following:
8. Bond's attempted escape from Korea, the briefcase exploding, the skydiving sequence, Jinx, Graves, Frost, Falco and finally Zao turning his pasty, diamond encrusted head to the camera, and then the Aston Martin driving slowly into the flames of the Ice Palace.
9. Cut to black. "40 years...amd it comes down to this." Show various clips from past films quickly, then show the title "Die Another Day" on the screen against blackness. It morphs into the release date, then the 007 logo. End.

#14 JimmyBond

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 07:12 PM

These are all great trailer ideas. So great in fact I dont think MGM will use them :) I cant think of one right now, but I promise I will come up with a good one.

BTW- I noticed a lot of you are playing up the captured Bond so much, wouldnt that be best kept a secret (from the general audience that is)? Seeing as how its a pretty big twist.

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 07:57 PM

Yeah I agree that the "Bond is captured" theme shouldn't be shown in the preview. Like I mentioned in another post, I just hope that they have shots from the old Bond films. Do the "40 years ago..." and opening up with Sean at the card table, lighting up saying "Bond, James Bond" then "a legend is born..." and then the other snippets of the other great memorable scenes from Bond. Then some kinda line noting its the 20th film like "and now, this legend's 20th adventure (or "outing" if it sounds better) is about to become his most dangerous yet..." and then show a bunch of clips from Die Another Day (of one of these DAD shots I would like to see the bit where Halle comes out of the water like Ursula.)

Hmm as long as they make reference to it being the 40th anniversary and 20th film then I'll be glad. I don't want them just promoting Die Another Day as if it meant nothing more than just "here's another Bond film!"

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 09:16 PM

Those ideas are great, and I personally believe that the capture should be made a point. It will be a huge draw to the film! Can't you see the shocked faces? "James Bond, captured? Never!" It's one of the defining things about this film and should be emphasized. Another point to be made is a "Who's the enemy?" Who are the bad guys? Frost? Jinx? Falco? Moon? Zao? Graves? I know somewhat because I'm a spoiler man, but the general audience doesn't. Play up the girls. Play up the action sequences. Play up the fact that this is BOND at its best. The 40th Anniversary is a good point, but perhaps not a point for the main trailer, which should concentrate more on the storyline.

I think these ideas are great, but they don't define the story enough! The number one complaint that people have about trailers is that sometimes trailers don't have enough story. TWINE had a good amount of story to it. Define driving force of the film, define the characters. That's what's needed. Only showing Bond captured and then a bunch of clips and calling that a trailer isn't good.

We need dialogue! Dialogue by Graves. Dialogue by Frost. Dialogue by Jinx. Dialogue by M. That's all needed. Unfortuately, we don't know a heck of a lot of dialogue. But it should be in there!

#17 Blue Eyes

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 09:51 PM

Some fantastic ideas in there! I really like them.

I think for sure we'll get;

* something nail bitey from M. We usually do, and I think it will be the 'Did you expect an apology?' as it's already hit the media.

* definetely some dialogue and some action with Halle Berry. Unavoidably I think she'll feature in at least 1/3 or the trailer.

* Rick Yune will have a portion as will Will Yun Lee and Rosamund Pike.

* And of course they'll be Bond. But with Halle Berry, I fear there'll be less Bond.

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 10:20 PM

I was giving the 'MIA Bond' some thought, and I think it's possible we'll see it in the trailer.

For starters it helps give the trailer a plot idea without going too much into detail about Colonel Moon and Gustav Graves. Mind you, the audience may think, woah Licence to Kill all over again.

And considering it's in the pre-title sequence, it's hardly going to spoil a major twist in teh film.

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 10:39 PM

Great ideas guys and i agree that they are too good for MGM! :)
Anyway...

TEASER
(007 Theme-NOT the James Bond theme)
Fox Logo
MGM Logo...
but you dont see the lion, all of a sudden
bond jumps up and he fires his gun

the camara turns and it is the aston martin on the ice

in the backround...

40 yrs. ago a legend was born. His name...

(Connery)
Bond...
(Moore)
James
(Brosnan)
Bond

40 yrs. of love
picture of Tracy...turns into
Kissy...turns into
Electra

40 yrs. of action
Scene of Bond in Little Nellie
Scene of Bond (GL) sliding on the ice
Scene of Bond in Wet Nellie
Scene of Bond and Kara in cello case
Scene of Bond in backseat of BMW 750iL

40 yrs. of bad chaps
Bloefeld shots
Renard
Jaws
Tee Hee
Baron Samedi
Scaramanga

40 yrs. of trust
Moneypenny
Sir Miles
M-Barbara M.
Q
R
P. Smallbone
Felix Leiter
Zukofsky

What happens when 007 loses one?

EXPLOSION

Bond (in backround)- You burned me, and now you expect me to help you?

During those words you see Bond being captured and tortured.

Voice- But All in all...James Bond is the same.

Bond theme BLARES.

Honey Rider walks up on the beach. Turns her back. turns and faces the camara. IT is Jinx.

Car chase pics.
Skydive pics.
Hovercraft chase pics.
Frost love scenes.
Forest explosions.
Jinx love scenes.
Surfing scenes.

During the action pics
Voice- Pierce Brosnan as Ian Fleming's
JAMES BOND 007
In
DIE ANOTHER DAY

The traitor will be unmasked.
Screen goes black.

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 10:54 PM

JL... that is simply amazing!!! I LOVE IT!!!

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Posted 01 September 2002 - 11:09 PM

On the part where you're like "40 years ago a legend was born. His name..." I think here it'd be better if they did (as I did on a music video I made using Moby's Bond theme for TV class project) all of them saying "Bond" and then to Brosnan saying "Bond, James Bond". It just works better. Otherwise it sounds choppy :) I like some of the other ideas you had there as well. But, I've liked a lot of the ideas I've read here too while I mention it. It'd be great/interesting to see who has the closest version to the final product.

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Posted 02 September 2002 - 07:31 AM

Ok, I've given it a lot of thought, and I've decided to post my thoughts on the trailer, and I think I have a doozy of a trailer for you guys :)

MGM logo (as I'm in the US, we only get this logo)

fade to black

(Voice over) For forty years he has captivated audiences....

As the line audiences is said, scenes from various Bond films fly slowly at the screen.

(Voice over) ...he is the original action hero, his name....

Cut to scene from Dr. No Connery: Bond...James Bond

Show various clips of all 19 Bond films, James Bond theme blaring in the background.

(Voice over) This holiday season, James Bond is back!

Bond theme cuts out, cut to Madonna's DAD theme along with a montage of film clips from DAD.

(voice over) For forty years James Bond has survived certain death, but could this adventure be his last?

music cuts out, cut to scene of bearded Bond sitting in a solitary cell, the look of all lost hope on his face. Fade out

(voice over) a bit somber now, Pierce Brosnan is James Bond in Die Another Day, November 22nd.

-------------------------------------

I'm sure that trailer would definately pique peoples interests. We have the mention of the 40th anniversary, the clips of all the old films, Madonna's theme song, which, like it or not, will become popular. Plus we end the trailer with Bond captured. That will have many people going nuts.

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Posted 02 September 2002 - 09:04 PM

I must say I really do love Blue Eyes' suggestion and Jim's.

I can't do better than that, but if MGM was paying me, this is what they would get:

MGM Lion roar fades into FOx logo as a voice over starts

"Each of these men have faced great obstacles..." (cue up shots of the five doing some hair raising stuff)

"Each of these men have suffered great losses..." (cue up Connery standing over Jill, Moore saying goodbye to Lisel, Dalton with Dalla, Brosnan with Elektra and then Lazenby with Tracy)

"Each of these men have overcome whatever was thrown at them..." (cue up the first four escaping from something being blown up or torn apart)

"...Until now..." (Brosnan in chains)

"This November one man will prove that no matter what happens..." (more action sequences from DAD)...."James Bond will die another day."

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Posted 02 September 2002 - 11:40 PM

Love the ideas, but these trailers give no idea of the story of Die Another Day except that he's captured. We need something better here. We do know enough of the story to construct a better trailer that explains the story. Somehow, I think we're stressing 40th Anniversary over the movie itself. These are just coming out like new teaser trailers. We need a trailer that explains the film! Something not unlike the TND and TWINE final trailers should be expected. We need to introduce Graves as a character. We need to introduce Moon as a character. Need to introduce Frost and Jinx. That's what these excellent ideas are missing.

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Posted 03 September 2002 - 12:03 AM

How about this:

1. Fox Logo
2. MGM Logo
3. FADE IN: The Icarus satellite from outer space
4. VOICEOVER: "The world is at risk..."
5. Scenes of Korea/Ice Palace melting
6. VOICEOVER: "and the one man who can save it-"
7. Shots of Bond in tuxedo -
8. VOICEOVER: "Is captured."
9. Bond getting held at gunpoint by Zao, followed by him rugged and post-torture
10. Bond and M: "You burned me and now you want my help..."
11. The Miranda Frost briefing scene where the dialogue goes about and explains why Bond is a "womanizer and a hazard."
12. Bond and Zao: "The man who set me up in Korea!"
13. A shot of Zao getting blasted by the suitcase.
14. Bond and Jinx: "So are you still Jinx?" "I'll always be Jinx to you."
15. Bond and Jinx kissing passionately
16. VOICEOVER: "After 40 years of saving the world..."
17. Shots of Sean Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton
18. VOICEOVER: "40 years of danger..."
19. Various shots from older films
20. VOICEOVER: "40 years of temptation..."
21. Shots of the most memorable girl moments, followed by Jinx getting out of the pool
22. VOICEOVER: "It all comes down to this..."
23. Various action shots from DAD
24. Title card, with VOICEOVER: "Die Another Day"

I admit its a rough idea, but hopefully someone can improve upon it?

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Posted 03 September 2002 - 12:51 AM

Hey I really like that Harmsway. Not too 40th Anniversary, and plenty of Die Another Day. Impressive :)

Personally, I don't want a voice over though. I'd like a trailer driven by dialogue. Like the Spiderman one.

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Posted 03 September 2002 - 12:46 PM

I really love Jim's and JLMuench's suggestions, but I'm not sure if we get some scenes from past Bond movies at all. The cinema audience is young and MGM could think that young people don't recognise Connery in his younger days (for most people my age he's the grey-bearded man from "The Rock" :)) or don't know Dalton or even Lazenby. And if they saw You Only Live Twice's Blofeld, they'd think that he's a rip-off of Dr. Evil :)

But I'd really love to see a trailer with many past references :)

Some great ideas here, guys!