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[Cheer_up_Saunders]

hi,

having just looked at the recent photos of DC and JD that have surfaced this week, i noticed that they are both wearing black. Could it be that the Bond and M are attending or have just attended a funeral? vesper's funeral?

It was not so much M's outfit but Bond's that led me to think it's mourning dress because bond rarely, if ever, wears black in the more recent films.

Edited by Cheer_up_Saunders, 06 January 2008 - 12:21 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

Who's Vesta?

[sharpshooter]

Vesta? Oh, you must mean Vista, Microsoft Vista

It could be possible that it is Vesper's funeral. That would actually be quite interesting in a Bond film. Bond could let the emotion of the situation really cast over him, set his resolve even more.

[Vauxhall]

A nice idea, and one that was raised yesterday elsewhere I believe. It would certainly be interesting to see a funeral scene for Vesper, but there are certainly a few problems to this, including the fact that Vesper died in summer and these new photos aren't trying to hide the fact that it is winter (originally posted by Fro yesterday). Based on the new photos of Judi Dench, it appears much more likely that these are pictures of M on her commute into work.

[Colonel Moon]

Why she would take briefcase to funeral?

[DamnCoffee]

The thing is, not everyone is in Black, some are wearing blue tie. Bond is wearing a Blue Tie, M is wearing Purples and Blues. It's not Vespers Funeral.

[MkB]

Also, I could picture Bond attending Vesper's funerals, but I can't see why M would.

[HildebrandRarity]

...Vesper died in summer and these new photos aren't trying to hide the fact that it is winter

Indeed.

I don't like the idea of Vesper's cell dating CR. I also don't like the idea that PTS is summer '06 at the villa and then it's fast forward (probably) to autumn '07 - winter '07/'08.

I prefer my Bonds side-stepping the explicit date issues. But that's just me.

[Vauxhall]

If it's necessary to add a year or two on after CASINO ROYALE, I suppose it could be said that Bond tracking down Mr White didn't take place immediately after Vesper's death. Perhaps it could have taken him a while to locate his house (despite having his mobile phone number...) It would be a bit of a stretch, but it may work.

[bonds_walther]

Not sure about the funeral idea. Where's a leaked script when you need it?

[DamnCoffee]

If it's necessary to add a year or two on after CASINO ROYALE, I suppose it could be said that Bond tracking down Mr White didn't take place immediately after Vesper's death. Perhaps it could have taken him a while to locate his house (despite having his mobile phone number...) It would be a bit of a stretch, but it may work.

Wouldn't it be a real pisser if Bond 22 took place directly after Vespers death and showed Bond tracking down White, which reveal that the confrontation would take place several months after Vesper death and be at the end of Bond 22.

[Cody]

If it's necessary to add a year or two on after CASINO ROYALE, I suppose it could be said that Bond tracking down Mr White didn't take place immediately after Vesper's death. Perhaps it could have taken him a while to locate his house (despite having his mobile phone number...) It would be a bit of a stretch, but it may work.

I just figured it would go - the Mr. White PTS - title sequence - title sequence ends and we pick up with Bond some months later.

[Vauxhall]

If it's necessary to add a year or two on after CASINO ROYALE, I suppose it could be said that Bond tracking down Mr White didn't take place immediately after Vesper's death. Perhaps it could have taken him a while to locate his house (despite having his mobile phone number...) It would be a bit of a stretch, but it may work.

I just figured it would go - the Mr. White PTS - title sequence - title sequence ends and we pick up with Bond some months later.

Yes, that's more likely

[DamnCoffee]

and we pick up with Bond some months later.

So it will be more unlikely that it is Vespers funeral then.

[HildebrandRarity]

If it's necessary to add a year or two on after CASINO ROYALE, I suppose it could be said that Bond tracking down Mr White didn't take place immediately after Vesper's death. Perhaps it could have taken him a while to locate his house (despite having his mobile phone number...) It would be a bit of a stretch, but it may work.

I just figured it would go - the Mr. White PTS - title sequence - title sequence ends and we pick up with Bond some months later.

Yes, that's more likely

Firstly, I think it's implied that Bond tracks down Mr White at his villa pretty quickly - within a few days i'd imagine.

Secondly, yes, it makes perfect sense for PTS to be Mr White/villa/Palio di Siena (horse race being the same time of summer) and then several months to a year-plus having passed after main titles for the body of Bond 22 to begin...

...but the Vesper funeral theory makes no sense given what Vauxhall rightly states about the Barbican attire and scene looking late autumn/winter~ish.

[DamnCoffee]

looking late autumn/winter~ish.

It could always be digitally graded. Like Die Another Day was. The Cuban Clinic scene took place during rain, that was easily sorted out by digital grading.

[MkB]

looking late autumn/winter~ish.

It could always be digitally graded. Like Die Another Day was. The Cuban Clinic scene took place during rain, that was easily sorted out by digital grading.

Yes, but apparently, this time, it was not raining and they used props to make it look like rain.

[Fro]

Yeah, they could grade it, but that doesn't explain why everyone is wearing heavy clothing and gloves. If it was supposed to be set in warm weather they would have done these scenes at the end of the shoot.

[HildebrandRarity]

From what we know, this scene (at the very earliest) likely takes place 3 to 7 months after Vesper's death which took place in early July, 2006...or (at the very latest) this scene takes place 15 to 19 months after that suicide.

The film crew are purposely sprikling water on DC's hair and over coat which would place the scene anywhere from October '06 to February '07...or Oct. '07 to Feb '08.

The Palio race sequence is likely set in either July/August '06 (in which case it could be a PTS sequence) ... or in July/August '07 (i.e. the actual year in which the filming takes place which could put the Palio event in the body of the movie)...or the Palio could be set in July/August of '08 (in which case the event would occur in the final, or third, act.)

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Is Vesper going to have a funeral?

[MkB]

Is Vesper going to have a funeral?

Yes of course, everyone does. Even traitors.

[Shrublands]

The film crew are purposely sprikling water on DC's hair and over coat which would place the scene anywhere from October '06 to February '07...or Oct. '07 to Feb '08.

Adopts deep Tom Baker voice, as in the commentary of Little Britain.

“Everybody knows that it never rains in Britain between the months of March and September. For British summertime is filled with halcyon days, where children dance in the hot, golden sun from morning until night…”

Edited by Shrublands, 07 January 2008 - 02:49 PM.

[Simon]

The film crew are purposely sprikling water on DC's hair and over coat which would place the scene anywhere from October '06 to February '07...or Oct. '07 to Feb '08.

?? ??

[Vauxhall]

Is Vesper going to have a funeral?

Yes of course, everyone does. Even traitors.

Yes, indeed. If you're asking whether the funeral will be in BOND 22, Nicolas, then we're unsure, but probably not.

[Jim]

The film crew are purposely sprikling water on DC's hair and over coat which would place the scene anywhere from October '06 to February '07...or Oct. '07 to Feb '08.

On the basis of last summer, it could take place at any given time in the year.

I think you may be reading a little too much into all this, y'know.

[Simon]

And when on earth was the month of any year ever really referenced in a Bond movie?

[marktmurphy]

And when on earth was the month of any year ever really referenced in a Bond movie?

Well, Casino Royale and OHMSS off the top of my head. Twice in OHMSS: the calendar Bond chucks a knife in ('but today is the thirteenth!'- now that's a top line) and because it's set at Christmas, which is usually in December

...but the Vesper funeral theory makes no sense given what Vauxhall rightly states about the Barbican attire and scene looking late autumn/winter~ish.

Yeah- you wouldn't have a funeral in apartment blocks and entertainment complexes in central London; Bond's not dressed for a funeral; neither's M; she has no reason to go to Vesper's funeral; and she wouldn't take a briefcase! Other than that; yeah- could be a funeral!