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[coco1997]

I was just wondering if anyone knew why, unlike every one of the Bond films before it, the title song "Licence to Kill" is never referenced in the score of the film. I'm pretty sure it could have been used effectively at certain parts of the movie. Anyone know why it wasn't?

[Mr. Blofeld]

Michael Kamen recorded his score separately from the songwriters of LTK, meaning the title song is not quoted in the score; a similar thing happened in GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, Die Another Day, and Thunderball.

[jaguar007]

Michael Kamen recorded his score separately from the songwriters of LTK, meaning the title song is not quoted in the score; a similar thing happened in GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, Die Another Day, and Thunderball.

However the end song "Surrender" was used throughout TND indicating that it was originally meant to be used as the theme song.For Thunderball "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" was originally supposed to be the main song.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Michael Kamen recorded his score separately from the songwriters of LTK, meaning the title song is not quoted in the score; a similar thing happened in GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, Die Another Day, and Thunderball.

However the end song "Surrender" was used throughout TND indicating that it was originally meant to be used as the theme song.For Thunderball "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" was originally supposed to be the main song.

That's what I mean: David Arnold had his whole score, including the song, ready for the film, but then the producers thought it unsatisfactory and got Sheryl Crow to record a new song; the same thing happened with Mr. Kiss-Kiss Bang-Bang in 1965.

[marktmurphy]

Michael Kamen recorded his score separately from the songwriters of LTK, meaning the title song is not quoted in the score; a similar thing happened in GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, Die Another Day, and Thunderball.

Thunderball? I think you need to have another listen to that film! It's playing all the way through it!

[Mr. Blofeld]

Michael Kamen recorded his score separately from the songwriters of LTK, meaning the title song is not quoted in the score; a similar thing happened in GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, Die Another Day, and Thunderball.

Thunderball? I think you need to have another listen to that film! It's playing all the way through it!

Actually, the song Thunderball is never quoted in the score; what you're hearing is Mr. Kiss-Kiss Bang-Bang.

[jaguar007]

Michael Kamen recorded his score separately from the songwriters of LTK, meaning the title song is not quoted in the score; a similar thing happened in GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, Die Another Day, and Thunderball.

Thunderball? I think you need to have another listen to that film! It's playing all the way through it!

Actually, the song Thunderball is never quoted in the score; what you're hearing is Mr. Kiss-Kiss Bang-Bang.

The opening rift of the song Thunderball is played throughout the movie.

[coco1997]

That's true. I was gonna call you out on that, Mr. Blofeld.

[PrinceKamalKhan]

Michael Kamen recorded his score separately from the songwriters of LTK, meaning the title song is not quoted in the score; a similar thing happened in GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, Die Another Day, and Thunderball.

Thunderball? I think you need to have another listen to that film! It's playing all the way through it!

Actually, the song Thunderball is never quoted in the score; what you're hearing is Mr. Kiss-Kiss Bang-Bang.

The opening rift of the song Thunderball is played throughout the movie.

An instrumental version of TB is played as background music when Bond enters the casino and almost walks into the blond. A very classy, Bondian scene and the title song underscores it nicely.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Ah. Oh, crap.

[marktmurphy]

Michael Kamen recorded his score separately from the songwriters of LTK, meaning the title song is not quoted in the score; a similar thing happened in GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, Die Another Day, and Thunderball.

Thunderball? I think you need to have another listen to that film! It's playing all the way through it!

Actually, the song Thunderball is never quoted in the score; what you're hearing is Mr. Kiss-Kiss Bang-Bang.

Oh dear!

[Col. Sun]

Michael Kamen recorded his score separately from the songwriters of LTK, meaning the title song is not quoted in the score; a similar thing happened in GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, Die Another Day, and Thunderball.

I worked on LTK many years back as an asst. editor and the reason the song is not worked in the score is because it was recorded very late in the day - after Kamen had already composed his score for the film.

[DamnCoffee]

Michael Kamen recorded his score separately from the songwriters of LTK, meaning the title song is not quoted in the score; a similar thing happened in GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, Die Another Day, and Thunderball.

Madonnas Die Another Day was referenced throughout the movie, especially at Graves' party.

[Mr_Wint]

Michael Kamen recorded his score separately from the songwriters of LTK, meaning the title song is not quoted in the score; a similar thing happened in GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, Die Another Day, and Thunderball.

Madonnas Die Another Day was referenced throughout the movie, especially at Graves' party.

Only once. And it wasn't used in the actual score.

[iexpectu2die]

In fact, there are some very subtle references to DAD within the score.

For example, the music when Bond is running after the helicopter after bursting out of the cuban clinic, echoes the "guess I'll die another day" part of the song.
(This is the track 'Jinx, James and Genes' for those with the full score to DAD).

David Arnold himself, in his vocal dislike of the song, said that although it was very difficult, he did try to reference the song.

Of course, he did write a song for the film titled 'I Will Return', but it was never even recorded. So maybe we're hearing elements of that in there!

[Mr. Blofeld]

Of course, he did write a song with Don Black for the film entitled 'I Will Return', but it was never even recorded. So maybe we're hearing elements of that in there!

Perhaps; I really wish that's what they would have used.

[Professor Dent]

Of course, he did write a song with Don Black for the film entitled 'I Will Return', but it was never even recorded. So maybe we're hearing elements of that in there!

Perhaps; I really wish that's what they would have used.

Definitely agree. I'm not even sure how you could work Madonna's song into the score or even make an orchestral version out of it without it sounding crappier than it already does. Is that even possible?

[Mr_Wint]

In fact, there are some very subtle references to DAD within the score.

For example, the music when Bond is running after the helicopter after bursting out of the cuban clinic, echoes the "guess I'll die another day" part of the song.
(This is the track 'Jinx, James and Genes' for those with the full score to DAD).

David Arnold himself, in his vocal dislike of the song, said that although it was very difficult, he did try to reference the song.

Of course, he did write a song for the film titled 'I Will Return', but it was never even recorded. So maybe we're hearing elements of that in there!

I've never noticed it, and I've listen to the full score several times. However, considering the enormous amount of themes Arnold creates, it wouldn't be surprising if at least one of them has a slight resemblance to Madonnas title song. But I dont think it's intentional.

[Mr. Blofeld]

In fact, there are some very subtle references to DAD within the score.

For example, the music when Bond is running after the helicopter after bursting out of the cuban clinic, echoes the "guess I'll die another day" part of the song.
(This is the track 'Jinx, James and Genes' for those with the full score to DAD).

David Arnold himself, in his vocal dislike of the song, said that although it was very difficult, he did try to reference the song.

Of course, he did write a song for the film titled 'I Will Return', but it was never even recorded. So maybe we're hearing elements of that in there!

I've never noticed it, and I've listen to the full score several times. However, considering the enormous amount of themes Arnold creates, it wouldn't be surprising if at least one of them has a slight resemblance to Madonnas title song. But I dont think it's intentional.

Well, Arnold is incredibly prolific; it wouldn't be too hard for one of his themes to sound like the title song unintentionally.

[marktmurphy]

In fact, there are some very subtle references to DAD within the score.

For example, the music when Bond is running after the helicopter after bursting out of the cuban clinic, echoes the "guess I'll die another day" part of the song.
(This is the track 'Jinx, James and Genes' for those with the full score to DAD).

That's 'I Will Return' playing in that bit, isn't it?

[Qwerty]

Of course, he did write a song with Don Black for the film entitled 'I Will Return', but it was never even recorded. So maybe we're hearing elements of that in there!

Perhaps; I really wish that's what they would have used.

I'd love to someday here that song with the lyrics since I think Arnold makes it work quite well as part of the film's score.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Of course, he did write a song with Don Black for the film entitled 'I Will Return', but it was never even recorded. So maybe we're hearing elements of that in there!

Perhaps; I really wish that's what they would have used.

I'd love to someday here that song with the lyrics since I think Arnold makes it work quite well as part of the film's score.

Let's hope it sees the light of day, someday.

[Qwerty]

Seems unlikely considering it has already been about five years, but I remain hopeful.

[Mr_Wint]

According to Arnold, an instrumental version of "I Will Return" was used during the hotel-scene in the beginning of the film.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Seems unlikely considering it has already been about five years, but I remain hopeful.

Well, [i]Mr. Kiss-Kiss Bang-Bang didn't see the light of day until the '90s, so there's always a chance...

[marktmurphy]

Seems unlikely considering it has already been about five years, but I remain hopeful.

Well, Mr. Kiss-Kiss Bang-Bang didn't see the light of day until the '90s, so there's always a chance...

Yeah but the slight difference there is that they recorded it at least twice! Not having recorded I Will Return will be a slight drawback to releasing it!

According to Arnold, an instrumental version of "I Will Return" was used during the hotel-scene in the beginning of the film.

And in many, many other scenes too- there's an action version playing during the Jinx & Genes bit, the 'Whiteout' escape... well, all through it, really. It's easy to tell that it's I Will Return as it's the only tune he uses in DAD apart from the Bond theme, the Jinx motif and the Dr Evi-... sorry; Graves fanfare!

[alan_more]

Well, [i]Mr. Kiss-Kiss Bang-Bang didn't see the light of day until the '90s, so there's always a chance...

Not exactly: Buddy Greco released a single version in 1965 on Columbia DB 7790.
Only the film versions were on hold until the 90's collector CD.