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[Royal Dalton]

http://www.comingsoo...ws.php?id=37510

Sir Rog in the Stewart Granger role, perhaps?

[Lady Templar]

I am against such remakes of great movies that have involved such icons like Roger Moore, Richard Harris, Richard Burton, Hardy Kr

[marktmurphy]

A rather odd one to remake, but I suppose it was no classic. I'd love to see some more of those 60s/70s type of fun war movies which usually starred big British and American stars together in unlikely partnerships: great fun!

[Blofeld's Cat]

THE WILD GEESE is my all-time favourite non-Bond Moore film, so I'm in two minds about this.

[Loomis]

How long before the rumour mill starts saying Daniel Craig will star in this?

In the Roger Moore role, with perhaps Clive Owen as Richard Burton and Russell Crowe as Richard Harris.

I'd like to see a remake much more faithful to the book, which is a corker. Looked for info on this Rupert Sanders chap, who's said to be directing, and could find little other than the following interview:

http://www.boardsmag...fb-sanders.html

It would appear that Sanders was homeless for a while; I bring this up as the novel (but not the film) appeared to have a few things to say about homelessness, as I recall.

But, yes, make it a period epic following the book as closely as possible, get the abovementioned all-star cast, and I'm there.

[dodge]

Laz in the Stewart Grainger role! Still looks in passable shape...and needs the comeback more than the other fellows.

[ACE]

Hurrah! Time to drag up my BRILLIANT idea for the three-quel and pitch it to the powers that be. Sit back, ladz, while I counts me money!

Joel Silver and Euan Lloyd present
A Silver Pictures Production
a James McTeigue film

THE WILD GEESE III: THE HUNT FOR OSAMA

starring

JUDE LAW as Emile Janders
EWAN McGREGOR as Carney
KEIRA KNIGHTLY as Rose
COLIN SALMON as MacLaglen
ART MALIK as Ramshah Khan
CAROLINE MUNRO as Fellictima
with
TIMOTHY DALTON as Col. Allen Faulkner

ROGER MOORE as Lt Shawn Flynn

and

MICHAEL CAINE as Col. Parmer

Production Notes

Our heros from South Africa and Germany are back, this time on the hunt for the most wanted man in the world and to rescue UNICEF hostages held in mountainous Afganistan.

After the stunning successes of the globally popular Wild Geese franchise, producer Euan Lloyd announced at Cannes that he has once again assembled the cream of British acting talent for the third film in the popular mercenary franchise. "We have Jude playing Richard Harris' son from the first film so this is a direct link - and a lot closer to the spirit of the original novel. And Timothy Dalton steps into Richard Burton's shoes to play Faulkner who assembles the crack team. Timothy was a natural successor to Burton and represents the finest Wales has to offer. We also have a few cameos from some old friends. I was pleased to capture the spirit of the original film by having Roger back. Roger filmed for one day and donated his fee to UNICEF." Commenting on the relevance of the franchise, Lloyd opined "Nowadays, we need the Wild Geese more than ever."

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Roger Moore, from the Atlas Studios set of WG3: "Well, Euan rounded up every British actor not working on the Harry Potters and here we are. Micheal and Timothy and I are having great fun with the youngsters and I'm delighted that my son, Geoffrey and my daughter, Deborah, will also be in the picture."

Timothy Dalton: "It's a strong, powerful, Ter.Rif.Fic. piece. I'm pleased to be a part of it. I read the original novel and saw the first two pictures and felt that I wanted my Faulkner to get back to the tough, no-nonce-sense, professional soldier of the original. Mr Lloyd agreed with me and I, we, think this film is a leap in the right and good direction of the Wild Geese heritage. No, I wasn't intimidated to step into Richard Burton's shoes - I've stepped in Sean Connery and Clark Gable's before this! The work feels good. And right. We have a solid, intriguing, wonderfully moving and entertaining script by the writers of Dog Soldiers and Severance. And Mr Lloyd is a showman of the old school. So, I'm pleased to be part of this extraordinary ensemble cast and contemporary story."

Michael Caine: "Well Rog called me up and said it would be fun. I said, 'How much?' 'e said 'alf a mil each, spread over two tax years. He gave his to UNICEF but I needed another swimming pool so I said, 'I'm in but only for 4 days, mind'. And 'ere I am swatting flies in exactly the same place as I did wiv Sean on the 'ooston picture. 'Except I'm wiv Rog and the serious one, Tim."

[Blofeld's Cat]

I'd like to see a remake much more faithful to the book, which is a corker.

I've got the book, but have not read it yet. However, according to the Euan Lloyd docco in the DVD extras he said that he was instrumental in getting Daniel Carney to finish the novel so Riginald Rose could right the screenplay.

When I say "instrumental" I mean that Lloyd bought the option to film the novel even before it was finished, let alone published.

So based on that I assumed that the movie pretty much follows the book.

[Blabbermouth]

starring

JUDE LAW as Emile Janders
EWAN McGREGOR as Carney
KEIRA KNIGHTLY as Rose
COLIN SALMON as MacLaglen
ART MALIK as Ramshah Khan
CAROLINE MUNRO as Fellictima
with
TIMOTHY DALTON as Col. Allen Faulkner

ROGER MOORE as Lt Shawn Flynn

and

MICHAEL CAINE as Col. Parmer

A favorite film of mine as well, but that is perhaps the worst cast one could possibly assemble!

You need actors who can play tough and your cast is nothing like that.

My suggestions(this is a remake so all the original characters are there):
# Russell Crowe (Colonel Alan Faulkner)
# Daniel Craig (Lieutenant Shawn Flynn)
# Christian Bale (Captain Rafer Janders)
# Gerard Butler (Lieutenant Pieter Coetzee)
# Brian Cox (Sir Edward Matherson)

Lovely right?

[David Schofield]

Please, leave well alone!

[Trident]

I'd like to see a remake much more faithful to the book, which is a corker.

I've got the book, but have not read it yet. However, according to the Euan Lloyd docco in the DVD extras he said that he was instrumental in getting Daniel Carney to finish the novel so Riginald Rose could right the screenplay.

When I say "instrumental" I mean that Lloyd bought the option to film the novel even before it was finished, let alone published.

So based on that I assumed that the movie pretty much follows the book.

Can't find the bloody book right now on my shelf. As I recall it the film followed the books plot pretty closely . Some minor changes and the merging of two characters into the role of Roger Moor is what makes the most difference. But some characters are described in the book much more emotional. Particularly Rafer Janders feels desperately homeless and displaced in England. A similar feeling of homesickness is described in some form or other in many of the mercenaries. The film dosn'tr explore this facette of its characters too closely. There is also an interesting wikipedia article on the subject of both the movie and the book by Carney.

[Loomis]

I'd like to see a remake much more faithful to the book, which is a corker.

I've got the book, but have not read it yet. However, according to the Euan Lloyd docco in the DVD extras he said that he was instrumental in getting Daniel Carney to finish the novel so Riginald Rose could right the screenplay.

When I say "instrumental" I mean that Lloyd bought the option to film the novel even before it was finished, let alone published.

So based on that I assumed that the movie pretty much follows the book.

Well, okay, it does. It's not that different. But if memory serves, there are some elements in the book that would make for interesting inclusion in a new film version. I'll put 'em in spoilers, though (nothing really major, though, so don't think I'm about to blow any major twists, 'coz there aren't any - still, you may wish to find the following out while you're reading the novel):

[spoilers]Richard Harris' (sorry, forget the character name) son's school is in Switzerland rather than England, adding a neat new location.

In spite of which, Harris is living in poverty in London in shabby "bedsit" accommodation next to a chap who commits suicide. Harris' isolation and loneliness are played up in the book, making us feel he has nothing to lose by taking the Limbani assignment. In the film, he doesn't appear to be doing all that badly.

Harris, not Moore, offs the drug dealer. When Faulkner reappears in Harris' life, Harris initially assumes that he's come to kill him now that the dealer's associates have put a price on his head.

More details about Moore's character. Can't remember what they were, but he's fleshed out in the book.

Once the boys are in Africa, there's a longer buildup to the mission, with quite a chunk of text devoted to their training and how they relate to each other.[/spoilers]

Obviously, a film adaptation of a novel must always streamline it and leave stuff out, but I do recall Carney's book as being more interesting, more thoughtful and more exciting than the movie. It would be nice if some its unfilmed elements could be brought to the upcoming remake (although I won't hold my breath; they'll probably set it in 2008 and cast John Travolta, Mark Wahlberg and Sean Penn as a bunch of Iraq veterans hired to depose a Latin American dictator).

ETA: Sorry, old boy, can't seem to make the spoilers tags work any more. Still, they're not especially incendiary, eh?

[Blabbermouth]

This is a good article about the movie and the differences from the novel. How much of it is true I don't know since I've not read the book.

http://en.wikipedia..../The_Wild_Geese

[Royal Dalton]

A favorite film of mine as well, but that is perhaps the worst cast one could possibly assemble!

You need actors who can play tough and your cast is nothing like that.

Then again, the original wasn't exactly a testosterone-fest.

[Blabbermouth]

A favorite film of mine as well, but that is perhaps the worst cast one could possibly assemble!

You need actors who can play tough and your cast is nothing like that.

Then again, the original wasn't exactly a testosterone-fest.

You're right but still I can't see Jude Law as a mercenary. I could however see the worldweary and battlehard faces of Burton, Harris and Moore as someone who had done it all and would pull the trigger for money.

[Royal Dalton]

You're right but still I can't see Jude Law as a mercenary.

I can't argue with you there.

However, with a bit of luck, he'd be the first one to be bumped off.

[Skudor]

Why, oh why do the need to make remakes?

Sigh.

But since they might, I just hope the cast the right people, hand out cameos to some of the old geezers and make a decent movie of it all.

Somehow I doubt they will.

[Loomis]

Hurrah! Time to drag up my BRILLIANT idea for the three-quel and pitch it to the powers that be. Sit back, ladz, while I counts me money!

Joel Silver and Euan Lloyd present
A Silver Pictures Production
a James McTeigue film

THE WILD GEESE III: THE HUNT FOR OSAMA

starring

JUDE LAW as Emile Janders
EWAN McGREGOR as Carney
KEIRA KNIGHTLY as Rose
COLIN SALMON as MacLaglen
ART MALIK as Ramshah Khan
CAROLINE MUNRO as Fellictima
with
TIMOTHY DALTON as Col. Allen Faulkner

ROGER MOORE as Lt Shawn Flynn

and

MICHAEL CAINE as Col. Parmer

Production Notes

Our heros from South Africa and Germany are back, this time on the hunt for the most wanted man in the world and to rescue UNICEF hostages held in mountainous Afganistan.

After the stunning successes of the globally popular Wild Geese franchise, producer Euan Lloyd announced at Cannes that he has once again assembled the cream of British acting talent for the third film in the popular mercenary franchise. "We have Jude playing Richard Harris' son from the first film so this is a direct link - and a lot closer to the spirit of the original novel. And Timothy Dalton steps into Richard Burton's shoes to play Faulkner who assembles the crack team. Timothy was a natural successor to Burton and represents the finest Wales has to offer. We also have a few cameos from some old friends. I was pleased to capture the spirit of the original film by having Roger back. Roger filmed for one day and donated his fee to UNICEF." Commenting on the relevance of the franchise, Lloyd opined "Nowadays, we need the Wild Geese more than ever."

International Sales now available.

WILD GEESE 3.0: HUNT FOR OSAMA update

PROJECTED WORLWIDE RELEASE 7th November 2008

Roger Moore, from the Atlas Studios set of WG3: "Well, Euan rounded up every British actor not working on the Harry Potters and here we are. Micheal and Timothy and I are having great fun with the youngsters and I'm delighted that my son, Geoffrey and my daughter, Deborah, will also be in the picture."

Timothy Dalton: "It's a strong, powerful, Ter.Rif.Fic. piece. I'm pleased to be a part of it. I read the original novel and saw the first two pictures and felt that I wanted my Faulkner to get back to the tough, no-nonce-sense, professional soldier of the original. Mr Lloyd agreed with me and I, we, think this film is a leap in the right and good direction of the Wild Geese heritage. No, I wasn't intimidated to step into Richard Burton's shoes - I've stepped in Sean Connery and Clark Gable's before this! The work feels good. And right. We have a solid, intriguing, wonderfully moving and entertaining script by the writers of Dog Soldiers and Severance. And Mr Lloyd is a showman of the old school. So, I'm pleased to be part of this extraordinary ensemble cast and contemporary story."

Michael Caine: "Well Rog called me up and said it would be fun. I said, 'How much?' 'e said 'alf a mil each, spread over two tax years. He gave his to UNICEF but I needed another swimming pool so I said, 'I'm in but only for 4 days, mind'. And 'ere I am swatting flies in exactly the same place as I did wiv Sean on the 'ooston picture. 'Except I'm wiv Rog and the serious one, Tim."

I'm relieved by these casting choices. Thank goodness there's no need for a site called Dannydyernotshawnfynn.com!

BTW, I've always wondered whether the name Shawn Fynn was supposed to be a tribute to Sean Flynn, son of Errol and a photojournalist who went missing in Cambodia in 1970.

[Blofeld's Cat]

I'd like to see a remake much more faithful to the book, which is a corker.

I've got the book, but have not read it yet. However, according to the Euan Lloyd docco in the DVD extras he said that he was instrumental in getting Daniel Carney to finish the novel so Riginald Rose could right the screenplay.

When I say "instrumental" I mean that Lloyd bought the option to film the novel even before it was finished, let alone published.

So based on that I assumed that the movie pretty much follows the book.

Well, okay, it does. It's not that different. But if memory serves, there are some elements in the book that would make for interesting inclusion in a new film version. I'll put 'em in spoilers, though (nothing really major, though, so don't think I'm about to blow any major twists, 'coz there aren't any - still, you may wish to find the following out while you're reading the novel):

Spoiler

Richard Harris' (sorry, forget the character name) son's school is in Switzerland rather than England, adding a neat new location.

In spite of which, Harris is living in poverty in London in shabby "bedsit" accommodation next to a chap who commits suicide. Harris' isolation and loneliness are played up in the book, making us feel he has nothing to lose by taking the Limbani assignment. In the film, he doesn't appear to be doing all that badly.

Harris, not Moore, offs the drug dealer. When Faulkner reappears in Harris' life, Harris initially assumes that he's come to kill him now that the dealer's associates have put a price on his head.

More details about Moore's character. Can't remember what they were, but he's fleshed out in the book.

Once the boys are in Africa, there's a longer buildup to the mission, with quite a chunk of text devoted to their training and how they relate to each other.

Obviously, a film adaptation of a novel must always streamline it and leave stuff out, but I do recall Carney's book as being more interesting, more thoughtful and more exciting than the movie. It would be nice if some its unfilmed elements could be brought to the upcoming remake (although I won't hold my breath; they'll probably set it in 2008 and cast John Travolta, Mark Wahlberg and Sean Penn as a bunch of Iraq veterans hired to depose a Latin American dictator).

Thanks for that Loomis, and as you say, the diferences arn't all that "incendiary", but they are different enough for me to want to read it now.

ETA: Sorry, old boy, can't seem to make the spoilers tags work any more. Still, they're not especially incendiary, eh?

Not to worry, mate. You made the tag names plural instead of singular.

[Blofeld's Cat]

I know this thread is supposed to be about the remake (ugh!), but I just found an interesting article online about the original.

[MarcAngeDraco]

Remake The Wild Geese?... WTF...

[Bond Bombshell]

Rupert Sanders presents -

THE WILD GEESE
Subtitle : Let's be 'aving you Limbani, you muppet!

Starring -

VINNIE JONES as Allen 'Mad Dog' Faulkner
DANNY DYER as Shawn 'Mad For It' Fynn
RAY WINSTONE as Rafer 'Mad Bastard' Janders
JASON STATHAM as Pieter 'Mad Accent All Over The Place' Coetzee
BOB HOSKINS as Sandy 'Mad Bladder Problem' Young

and

GRAHAM NORTON as Arthur 'Hopping Mad Waiting For His Proctologist' Witty

THE PLOT

Having had their heads kicked in by a bunch of Chelsea supporters, the geese decide that they need to restore local pride by " 'aving a right go at those African nonces". Faulkner rounds up his men with the exception of Sandy Young who is getting a right case of GBH of the ear'ole from 'er indoors. After kneecapping the unfortunate woman, the geese fly budget airline via Luton airport to an african nation that nobody has ever heard of, with the intention of liberating Julius Limbani whether he likes it or not.

Arriving at the barracks where Limbani is a prisoner, the geese discover soldiers around a TV set showing a Clive Owen film. Feeling that to gas them while they're asleep "ain't cushty", they instead choose to hang them up on meat hooks and shoot them. They grab hold of Limbani, but failing to grasp even a rudimentary level of politics, they can't decide whether he's a top geezer or stitching them up like a kipper.

They then rush back to the airport in a desperate race against time to catch their flight. Running on the tarmac, they manage to scramble on board except for Janders when Faulkner decides to shoot him in the bollocks for the crack.

"Shawn! Shawn! I shot Rafer's nadgers off!" shouts Faulkner crying with laughter.
"He never 'ad any to start with." laughs Fynn. "What's next?"
"Well, It's either liberating Hess from Spandau or Millwall away in the cup." says Faulkner.
"Better head for Berlin." says Fynn.

Edited by Bond Bombshell, 25 September 2007 - 02:26 PM.

[Royal Dalton]

Brilliant!

That's probably too close to the truth for comfort.

[ACE]

Rupert Sanders presents -

THE WILD GEESE
Subtitle : Let's be 'aving you Limbani, you muppet!

Starring -

VINNIE JONES as Allen 'Mad Dog' Faulkner
DANNY DYER as Shawn 'Mad For It' Fynn
RAY WINSTONE as Rafer 'Mad Bastard' Janders
JASON STATHAM as Pieter 'Mad Accent All Over The Place' Coetzee
BOB HOSKINS as Sandy 'Mad Bladder Problem' Young

and

GRAHAM NORTON as Arthur 'Hopping Mad Waiting For His Proctologist' Witty

THE PLOT

Having had their heads kicked in by a bunch of Chelsea supporters, the geese decide that they need to restore local pride by " 'aving a right go at those African nonces". Faulkner rounds up his men with the exception of Sandy Young who is getting a right case of GBH of the ear'ole from 'er indoors. After kneecapping the unfortunate woman, the geese fly budget airline via Luton airport to an african nation that nobody has ever heard of, with the intention of liberating Julius Limbani whether he likes it or not.

Arriving at the barracks where Limbani is a prisoner, the geese discover soldiers around a TV set showing a Clive Owen film. Feeling that to gas them while they're asleep "ain't cushty", they instead choose to hang them up on meat hooks and shoot them. They grab hold of Limbani, but failing to grasp even a rudimentary level of politics, they can't decide whether he's a top geezer or stitching them up like a kipper.

They then rush back to the airport in a desperate race against time to catch their flight. Running on the tarmac, they manage to scramble on board except for Janders when Faulkner decides to shoot him in the bollocks for the crack.

"Shawn! Shawn! I shot Rafer's nadgers off!" shouts Faulkner crying with laughter.
"He never 'ad any to start with." laughs Fynn. "What's next?"
"Well, It's either liberating Hess from Spandau or Millwall away in the cup." says Faulkner.
"Better head for Berlin." says Fynn.

LOL

[Blofeld's Cat]

Oh the horror!

[Blabbermouth]

There are many names that could do the job. I agree that the likes of Statham, Jones and Winstone are too thuggish for the roles. You need someone who can be classy as well as tough blended in a way like Burton, Harris and Moore. The classically trained actor not an action star.

Jason Isaacs
Charles Dance
Daniel Craig
Christian Bale
James Purefoy
Gerard Butler

They all have the style and class of the upper class and can act ruthless when the role has offered the opportunity.

[Skudor]

Funny how Daniel Craig suddenly seems (to me) like the only actor around capable of playing a 'posh' military type.