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[dinovelvet]

Over on...ahem...another site, there is a report that Michael G. Wilson was spotted on a plane reading GOLDFINGER. Could this mean they are using the book as inspiration? Of course, most of the novel has already been used, but there are a couple of bits and pieces that didn't make it in to the film, such as the part where GF invites Bond to dinner and Bond ends up snooping round his house, and the passage where Bond is kidnapped and basically forced to work as GF's assistant.
I can believe that Purvis and Wade would want to work some Fleming into the script, after all they did use Moonraker as a basis for DAD, and tried to work Fidel Barbey into CR.

[jaguar007]

Inside sources tell me that Mickey G was not really reading Goldfinger, but the newest addition the Oprah book club, he just put a Goldfinger cover on it so nobody would know what he was reading

[Garth007]

lol

[JimmyBond]

Perhaps he was reading it just to read it?

[The Richmond Spy]

Wasn't Daniel Craig seen reading and/or purchasing a copy of Casino Royale a few months before the announcement of him being the new Bond? I swear I remember reading that somewhere back in '05.

[dinovelvet]

Perhaps he was reading it just to read it?

Perhaps. But, reading it during the pre-production phase of a new Bond film, partially written by two Fleming fans who always try to work Fleming material into the scripts?

Could mean nothing. Then again, could mean the whole basis for Bond 22.

[MkB]

Wasn't Daniel Craig seen reading and/or purchasing a copy of Casino Royale a few months before the announcement of him being the new Bond? I swear I remember reading that somewhere back in '05.

I remember that too, even if I didn't manage to find any reference back. I think it was just before or just after his name came out as the new 007, hence the interest of the piece of news.
But I'm not sure it's that significant regarding Wilson. I mean, being head of the franchise, he (and Barbara Broccoli) must certainly be constantly immersed in Fleming's / Bond's universe, therefore re-reading books and re-seeing films on a regular basis ?

[The Richmond Spy]

Wasn't Daniel Craig seen reading and/or purchasing a copy of Casino Royale a few months before the announcement of him being the new Bond? I swear I remember reading that somewhere back in '05.

I remember that too, even if I didn't manage to find any reference back. I think it was just before or just after his name came out as the new 007, hence the interest of the piece of news.
But I'm not sure it's that significant regarding Wilson. I mean, being head of the franchise, he (and Barbara Broccoli) must certainly be constantly immersed in Fleming's / Bond's universe, therefore re-reading books and re-seeing films on a regular basis ?

Yep, I'd say you're right. I'm sure Michael just wanted to run though all of the books before getting too far along with Bond 22 and we just happened to catch him reading Goldfinger.

[MkB]

Yep, I'd say you're right. I'm sure Michael just wanted to run though all of the books before getting too far along with Bond 22 and we just happened to catch him reading Goldfinger.

Dare I say I hope so ? :-) I don't consider Goldfinger as a very good novel, indeed. I mean, there are some interesting parts, but the beginning reminded me too much of Moonraker (the intriguing and displeasant rich man and his gambit, etc.), and the part whith Bond abducted and used as a PA by Goldfinger was quite boring and very unrealistic (even if realism is not precisely the main quality of a good Bond story :-)

[Judo chop]

I doubt Wilson spends his leisure time reading Fleming. I would imagine they're all pretty Fleminged out, over there in EON. IF he was reading Goldfinger, I would bet it has everything to do with Bond 22 and nothing to do with his own personal interests.

That being as it may, how much of anything he might be reading will translate to the screen is a wild guess for anyone.

I also agree that GF is one of Fleming's least memorable novels. The only scene I do recall is Bond snooping about Goldfinger's home.

[JimmyBond]

Isnt most of the novel (havent read it) up there onscreen anyways?

I do know that instead of being taken against his will after being caught, Bond is hired on as Goldfinger's personal secretary (need this confirmed from someone who's read the novel). Perhaps that's the bit that they're going to be using?

[MkB]

Isnt most of the novel (havent read it) up there onscreen anyways?

I do know that instead of being taken against his will after being caught, Bond is hired on as Goldfinger's personal secretary (need this confirmed from someone who's read the novel). Perhaps that's the bit that they're going to be using?

You're true (but I think abducted is a better word than hired to describe Bond's situation). They could use this part, yes, but I strongly doubt it. Even n a book it was weird... I mean, if you're a mad tycoon planning to take over Fort Knox with your henchmen, is it likely that you really are MAD enough to use a trained assassin as your personal secretary, just to doodle some stupid notes ? :-)

I think names can be another lead : producers might be searching some names from the Fleming novels that haven't been used in the movies ? Just to give the next film a hint of a Fleming's touch ?

[dinovelvet]

Isnt most of the novel (havent read it) up there onscreen anyways?

I do know that instead of being taken against his will after being caught, Bond is hired on as Goldfinger's personal secretary (need this confirmed from someone who's read the novel). Perhaps that's the bit that they're going to be using?

You're true (but I think abducted is a better word than hired to describe Bond's situation). They could use this part, yes, but I strongly doubt it. Even n a book it was weird... I mean, if you're a mad tycoon planning to take over Fort Knox with your henchmen, is it likely that you really are MAD enough to use a trained assassin as your personal secretary, just to doodle some stupid notes ? :-)

I think names can be another lead : producers might be searching some names from the Fleming novels that haven't been used in the movies ? Just to give the next film a hint of a Fleming's touch ?

Nah...names is for tombstones, baby. I don't see why they couldn't use the "Bond forced to work for the villain" bit. It is slightly mad in the novel, yes, but it plays to Goldfinger's arrogance/ego, that he can keep Bond prisoner and make him do his bidding. It would certainly be something fresh for a Bond film, if 007 has to work with the villain for a portion of the movie, no?

[MkB]

Nah...names is for tombstones, baby. I don't see why they couldn't use the "Bond forced to work for the villain" bit. It is slightly mad in the novel, yes, but it plays to Goldfinger's arrogance/ego, that he can keep Bond prisoner and make him do his bidding. It would certainly be something fresh for a Bond film, if 007 has to work with the villain for a portion of the movie, no?

Yeah, could be... but still, it should be seriously overhauled to fit the new reboot. I mean, if Bond does some work, he might be hired as a hitman, compelled to kill someone, being himself more or less held at gunpoint by the Villain (that's what he's good at, isnt'it ?). It would need to be tougher than paperwork ! :-)

[JimmyBond]

Perhaps Bond (in order to inflitrate the organization) is going to hire himself out as a gun for the villian of the piece? Would definately be interesting to see Bond carry out a few assassanations for the villian, and then watch M go nuts thinking Bond has turned.

That also plays to the blurred lines we saw in Casino Royale, nothing is black and white, there is really no such thing as good and evil, since even villians have someone's best interest in mind.

[MkB]

Perhaps Bond (in order to inflitrate the organization) is going to hire himself out as a gun for the villian of the piece? Would definately be interesting to see Bond carry out a few assassanations for the villian, and then watch M go nuts thinking Bond has turned.

That also plays to the blurred lines we saw in Casino Royale, nothing is black and white, there is really no such thing as good and evil, since even villians have someone's best interest in mind.

Good point ! After all, his licence to kill would cover such actions ;-) But psychologically, it might be interesting if he wasn't totally volunteer as the Villain's hitman, but compelled to act so (hence the dilemma : how far can he go, etc. ?).

Well, guys, it sounds pretty good, some more posts and we'll come up with our own script for Bond 22 (bye bye Purvis, Wade and Haggis) ! :-)

[VisualStatic]

Perhaps Bond (in order to inflitrate the organization) is going to hire himself out as a gun for the villian of the piece? Would definately be interesting to see Bond carry out a few assassanations for the villian, and then watch M go nuts thinking Bond has turned.

That also plays to the blurred lines we saw in Casino Royale, nothing is black and white, there is really no such thing as good and evil, since even villians have someone's best interest in mind.

But couldn't you say this has been done, in LTK. On how he gets close to Sanchez.

[00Twelve]

I was gonna say that as well, Static. Good call.

However, I do wish that these points (Bond in the house, working for a villain who knows he's a threat) would be included at some point. They're a couple of the many unused Fleming plot devices and scenes that have been deprived of screen adaptation.

[VisualStatic]

Also, don't get me wrong, the idea of infiltration of this type is standard spy/intel gathering. So having Bond getting close and even working for the villian would be something fun and interesting.

[jaguar007]

IT is possible that MGW is rereading several Bond books just for inspiration as they are in preproduction for the next film.

[RazorBlade]

Having Bond work for the bad guys sounds like a good idea. Let's see them do it.

[JimmyBond]

Perhaps Bond (in order to inflitrate the organization) is going to hire himself out as a gun for the villian of the piece? Would definately be interesting to see Bond carry out a few assassanations for the villian, and then watch M go nuts thinking Bond has turned.

That also plays to the blurred lines we saw in Casino Royale, nothing is black and white, there is really no such thing as good and evil, since even villians have someone's best interest in mind.

But couldn't you say this has been done, in LTK. On how he gets close to Sanchez.

At first I was going to agree with you, but I don't believe it's quite the same. Same idea true, but in LTK Bond more or less falls into "helping" Sanchez. Even though he did offer his services at first. When I mentioned my idea, I was thinking more along the lines of the villian specifically looking for a hitman and having Bond get picked up that way.