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[WC]

If Dalton starred in Casino Royale (if he was now the age he was when he made TLD), what do you think the movie would have been like?

Would it have been pretty similar to the film we got with Daniel Craig? Or radically different?

And what if it was the exact same script and plot, and Dalton starred opposite Eva Green?

What do you think?

I personally always felt that Casino Royale seemed like a Dalton vehicle. So maybe it wouldn't have been all that different, and since Dalton would have come after Brosnan instead of the very lighthearted Moore, maybe he might have been more readily accepted in the role.

[Daddy Bond]

If Dalton starred in Casino Royale (if he was now the age he was when he made TLD), what do you think the movie would have been like?

Would it have been pretty similar to the film we got with Daniel Craig? Or radically different?

And what if it was the exact same script and plot, and Dalton starred opposite Eva Green?

What do you think?

I personally always felt that Casino Royale seemed like a Dalton vehicle. So maybe it wouldn't have been all that different, and since Dalton would have come after Brosnan instead of the very lighthearted Moore, maybe he might have been more readily accepted in the role.

IMO it would have been closer to Craig's performance than say Brosnan, Moore or Lazenby, but it would have had it's own seriousness to it that would have made it different from Craig. Craig seemed to bring a slightly mischievious quality to his Bond that would have been missing if Dalton had done it IMHO. What do you think?

[sharpshooter]

I agree that Craig has a mischievious quality. Dalton would of been more serious than Craig. I think that the bathroom and stairwell scenes would be similar but done differently somehow. Dalton was more of an act tough guy with the threat of violence.

[jaguar007]

For years I had always thought that Dalton would have been my 1st choice to do Casino Royale. With Dalton, it would have been done differently, not so much the 1st 00 assignment for Bond. Dalton played the "seasoned" 007 close to perfection. In fact I kind of see Bond starting out being like Daniel Craig, becoming Sean Connery during the height of his career and becoming Dalton as he gets older and a little more resposible, toward the end of his career as a field agent.

[Blonde Bond]

If Dalton would have been in 'Casino Royale', I'm willing to bet that it would've been even closer to Fleming's original, than it is now, with Dan Craig.

I truly think Dalton is the most flemingian bond of the lot. Mainly because of how he carries himself and the similar looks that Fleming described in his books.

[G.I Jord]

IMO it would have been closer to Craig's performance than say Brosnan, Moore or Lazenby, but it would have had it's own seriousness to it that would have made it different from Craig. Craig seemed to bring a slightly mischievious quality to his Bond that would have been missing if Dalton had done it IMHO. What do you think?

I completely agree. If Dalton had done this, it would probably be slightly more serious and more intense in some scenes (imagine the poker scenes). However some of the mischievious scenes would be toned down or altered, I can't see Dalton saying 'Oww' in the scene where Bond is tagged. Perhaps it would have been even closer to the novel.

Again, if Dalton done this, it would be tailored to his Bond, as a mature, experienced and relatively responsible professional who thinks of the potential consequences to his actions. Daniel Craig done a brilliant job as a brash professional who is still learning.

Edited by G.I Jord, 15 October 2007 - 10:45 PM.

[sharpshooter]

In the torture sequence, I imagine Dalton would have kept a serious glare throughout, not showing anything at all but having an aggressive edge even though he is captured. He would also be very stubborn and tell him to 'piss off' or something like that when asked what the password is.

[Royal Dalton]

Ah, what might have been...

[stamper]

Dalton in CR ? God now, the only think I miss is him in Goldeneye. I wished he had made all four Brosnan outings actually, or that Brosnan would have made his two.

[plankattack]

If Dalton had done CR with Bond written as it was, then I think it would have been fine - Dalton is a great actor who could have portrayed the character as it was written for CR.

But I'm not sure if Dalton's TLD Bond would have been a good fit for CR. The mischievenous of DC's performance is central to the arc of Bond learning his lesson about "trust" and his seasoning etc. Dalton's brooding Bond would not have been caught out by Vesper. Dalton's TLD Bond just somehow seems a bit more wordly, more aware of what it is that he does.

The CR movie-Bond has a younger, more youthful (and I mean that in reference to his experience) man at it's core.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Perhaps if you view Casino Royale as coming before The Living Daylights?

It might work, you know...

[plankattack]

Perhaps if you view Casino Royale as coming before The Living Daylights?

It might work, you know...

I don't disagree, Mr B - my only point is that Dalton would have to play the character written for DC, rather than just transplanting the TLD Bond into CR.

As much as DC and TD seem to be coming from the same general place as 007 (taking things seriously, less quipping about, liberal use of Fleming's original creation) there are differences in their portrayal.

But as I said, there's no reason Dalton the actor couldn't pull it off.

[RazorBlade]

... I'd wet myself. With joy.

But I love DC too.

[OmarB]

Dalton to me is the Bond from the novels, or to me the cloest to it. If he were to do CR and the script more close to the book it would have been spectacular. Nothing against the adaptation or the stuff added but Dalton's Bond is the guy I see in the casino.

What I wonder about is if Dalton would have played Bond in CR as a fully formed character or would he have grown into the character like Craig did as the movie went along. I guess it would depend on if he uses a script closer to the book or the screen version.

[Judo chop]

I've always wished to see Dalton tortured. Um... Dalton as Bond being tortured, I mean.

I think he might have been able to present the most chilling performance of any of the Bonds. Certainly moreso than Lazenby, Moore or the grunting Brosnan. We never really saw Connery's Bond under those conditions, so that's a guess. I think Dalton would have been the best.

[marktmurphy]

He would have been great for sure, and I think that he always wanted to do CR.

He would have been different, though: his Bond never had quite the same level of swagger and self confidence/arrogance that Craig's (and most of the others, actually) has, and that self belief was an integral part of CR as we got to see when Bond was wrong to believe in himself so strongly and when he fell from grace.

[LadySylvia]

For years I had always thought that Dalton would have been my 1st choice to do Casino Royale. With Dalton, it would have been done differently, not so much the 1st 00 assignment for Bond. Dalton played the "seasoned" 007 close to perfection. In fact I kind of see Bond starting out being like Daniel Craig, becoming Sean Connery during the height of his career and becoming Dalton as he gets older and a little more resposible, toward the end of his career as a field agent.

I don't know about that. Connery's Bond - even at the height of the Bond mania - never seemed like Dalton or Craig's to me.