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[Garth007]

I really didn't mind Cleese as Q that much, but I don't think we'll be seeing him return in Bond 22.

same here.

[JSB544]

Personally I think Michael Caine would be a great replacement for Q.

[Blofeld's Cat]

Apparently there'll be more laughs in Bond 22, so bring Cleese back!

[Sbott]

I simply don't want to watch Daniel Craig's bond employ an inflating protective jacket in the rumoured Ski scene.

But how will he survive if there is an avalanche?

[Orion]

Personally I think Michael Caine would be a great replacement for Q.

I think Caine is too big a name for that to really work as brilliant as it would be, but then i've been wanting to see Christian Bale as a villain in a Bond film since seeing "American Psycho" so...

[00Twelve]

See, when the title looks like that, it tends to make my heart start beating irregularly.

Just don't make Q purely comic relief at Bond's expense nowadays and I'll be A-Ok. Oh, and Boothroyd would sound much better, IMHO.

[VisualStatic]

No Q, Give us Major Boothroyd.

[tdalton]

No Q, Give us Major Boothroyd.

Agreed. I think that using Major Boothroyd as the 'Q' character would be the best way to go. It would be a great way to bring more Fleming back into the novels as well as allow for the character to exist without comparisons to its previous depiction (which, if they tried to duplicate, just couldn't be done because it would be impossible to do it better than Desmon Llewlyn did, so I don't see any reason in trying).

[RogueSpy007]

I definitely hope John Cleese does not return as Q. I like him and I thought his Q fit well with the Brosnan take on 007, but he would clash with Craig's Bond. They need someone more serious with a sarcastic wit about him. I don't think Dench should have returned as M. I think she's a great actress and I liked her as M in the past, but it's time for a change. If M, Q, and Moneypenny are going to be around in the new age of Bond, then we need cast changes.

[Sir Hilly 007]

Lord no. I hope he doesn't reprise his role. I'm a fan of Cleese, but not in Bond.

I'd actually prefer one more film minus Q, but maybe introduce a Money Penney that Bond is meeting for the first time. The exchange might be interesting.

[jaguar007]

IF they do bring back the Q character, I would prefer calling him "M. Boothroyd or The Armourer". I don't want Cleese back and would prefer a relative unknown. Of named actors for the part, for some reason I keep seeing Ricky Gervais (in serious mode).

[blackjack60]

I definitely hope John Cleese does not return as Q. I like him and I thought his Q fit well with the Brosnan take on 007, but he would clash with Craig's Bond. They need someone more serious with a sarcastic wit about him.

As I've pointed out, Cleese is perfectly capable of dry, sarcastic wit--it's one of his trademarks, and he's played restrained characters before. And as a matter of fact, was there really much wrong with how Cleese played the character in DAD? Put aside the ridiculous gadgets and focus on the barbed interplay between Brosnan and Cleese. I can easily imagine an exchange like "You know, you're cleverer than you look" -- "Still, better than looking cleverer than you are," occurring between Cleese and Craig.

[00Twelve]

I dunno, while it is funny, the seriousness that CR brought to pass kind of clashes with the Bond/Q banter of tradition. It was a warm fuzzy that reminded us that it's the same old Bond, the same old team, saving the world again, but the whole thing's just gotten a little stale IMHO and I really do think I'd like the quartermaster much better if there was only a slight subtext about Bond's "irresponsibility" with the equipment. Actually, in real life, wouldn't all that equipment be expected to be expendable? The whole, "you'd better bring that back in pristine order <shaking fist in Bond's general direction>" gag is tired. I'm ready for *Major Boothroyd* to re-enter the scene.

[Judo chop]

In an effort to completely severe the cord to the Brosnan era I

[triviachamp]

the whole thing's just gotten a little stale

A little stale?

[stamper]

Once again in this age, Q is USELESS. We, as regular citizen carry more gadgets at home and at work and outside than Bond ever did.

FORGET Q AND LEAVE SOME RESPECT FOR DESMOND. THE ERA OF GHETTO BLASTERS THAT BLAST ROCKETS IS GONE.

[Agent Ostlund]

I would like to see Micheal Caine to play the part of Q. He has both homourous and very serious traits, so he may fit in better with Craigs Bond.

Edited by Agent Ostlund, 07 August 2007 - 11:52 PM.

[00Twelve]

the whole thing's just gotten a little stale

A little stale?

I try to be as polite as possible most of the time.

[WC]

Personally I would prefer a new actor in the role. I was never that fond of Cleese to start off with. I'm not even that keen on the idea of Judi Dench as M in this new series. But certainly Cleese doesn't really seem to fit the new style of film. Desmond Llewelln was considerably younger when he first started in FRWL so perhaps a younger actor would be an idea here as well.

I would like Moneypenny back too, but again, someone younger - like how Lois Maxwell was at the very start, not the slightly older portrayal as played by Samantha Bond.

[Vauxhall]

I don't think we need the character of Q, as I think the producers should attempt to show Bond as an individual who doesn't really need gadgets, but relies more upon his own mettle. Perhaps just having occasional useful features which aren't overblown but rather realistic.

[triviachamp]

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I would like Moneypenny back too, but again, someone younger - like how Lois Maxwell was at the very start, not the slightly older portrayal as played by Samantha Bond.

Lois Maxwell was older in Dr. No than Bond in GE!

[WC]

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I would like Moneypenny back too, but again, someone younger - like how Lois Maxwell was at the very start, not the slightly older portrayal as played by Samantha Bond.

Lois Maxwell was older in Dr. No than Bond in GE!

Well evidently Samantha Bond didn't age too well then lol. She certainly seems an older Moneypenny.

[K1Bond007]

I don't think we need the character of Q, as I think the producers should attempt to show Bond as an individual who doesn't really need gadgets, but relies more upon his own mettle. Perhaps just having occasional useful features which aren't overblown but rather realistic.

I agree, however, as I've stated in past threads, Q wouldn't be so bad if he was The Armourer. Seriously.. Q really appeared starting with Goldfinger. Then it just got even more crazy after that, but for the first two films, he was realistic. He armed Bond. That was his duty. No gadgets really.. the briefcase, somewhat, but it was down to Earth. If they gave us that guy, I'd be fine, but I don't want Q. And I really don't want Moneypenny. I rather like Villiers for the moment.

[ACE]

If they do reinstate Q and/or Moneypenny, I really hope they stick with John Cleese and Samantha Bond. These continuity characters would make it part of the series. Unlikely for that to happen but it would be great.

[Loomis]

I want both characters to return (it strikes me that there are plenty of Bond fans who'd like to think that the series has got shot of them for good, on the grounds that they're embarrassing and unnecessary relics of the pre-CR bad old days and no more relevant to the brave new gritty and intelligent future of 007 than the double-taking European drunk of mid-period Moore), but I'd like them to be played by new actors, for two reasons:

1. I was never a particular fan of Bond's Moneypenny or Cleese's Q.

2. I think the new Moneypenny and Q should be young (30s, and contemporaries of Craig's Bond), and should have a certain amount of deftly-handled backstory. For instance, here's how I'd introduce Moneypenny:

PTS OF BOND 22. We open with Bond at Mr White's villa, or in the middle of some other mission. At the end of this PTS, after some cool action and stunts, our hero goes to an embassy function or somewhere where he's told he's going to meet someone from MI6 who'll give him a certain piece of information. "How will I recognise him?" Bond asks. "Don't worry," comes the answer. "Just go there, have fun, act normally, and don't look as though you're looking for someone. When the time comes, your contact will come to you." So Bond turns up at the bar, orders a vodka martini, and begins mingling in the crowd. An attractive young woman catches his eye, and he asks her to dance, partly because he wants to and partly to take his mind off the job and relax for a bit.

BOND (flirting): You dance very well.

WOMAN: So do you. But then I gather you do a lot of things well. I have to confess I've read all about you.

BOND (beginning to twig): My condolences. You've read about me in some detail, then?

WOMAN (fanboy in-joke ahoy!): In nauseating detail. Only as a matter of duty, of course. You see, I'm your boss' new secretary.

BOND: Ah. I imagine, then, that you know my name. (Groan.)

WOMAN: I do, James.

BOND: Well, well. I'm very impressed. M's certainly choosing her people well, Miss----?

WOMAN: Moneypenny. (As she opens her mouth to say her Christian name, which we the viewers must on no account ever hear, we cut to the opening credits sequence. Guaranteed mass cheers from the packed-out opening Friday night audience at the Odeon Leicester Square, I'm telling ya!)

Something like that. I still say Mackenzie Crook must be Q, and perhaps someone like Amita Dhiri (THIS LIFE) for Moneypenny.

[ACE]

PTS OF BOND 22. We open with Bond at Mr White's villa, or in the middle of some other mission. At the end of this PTS, after some cool action and stunts, our hero goes to an embassy function or somewhere where he's told he's going to meet someone from MI6 who'll give him a certain piece of information. "How will I recognie him?" Bond asks. "Don't worry," comes the answer. "Just go there, have fun, act normally, and don't look as though you're looking for someone. When the time comes, your contact will come to you." So Bond turns up at the bar, orders a vodka martini, and begins mingling in the crowd. An attractive young woman catches his eye, and he asks her to dance, partly because he wants to and partly to take his mind off the job and relax for a bit.

BOND (flirting): You dance very well.

WOMAN: So do you. But then I gather you do a lot of things well. I have to confess I've read all about you.

BOND (beginning to twig): My condolences. You've read about me in some detail, then?

WOMAN (fanboy in-joke ahoy!): In nauseating detail. Only as a matter of duty, of course. You see, I'm your boss' new secretary.

BOND: Ah. I imagine, then, that you know my name. (Groan.)

WOMAN: I do, James.

BOND: Well, well. I'm very impressed. M's certainly choosing her people well, Miss----?

WOMAN: Moneypenny. (As she opens her mouth to say her Christian name, which we the viewers must on no account ever hear, we cut to the opening credits sequence. Guaranteed mass cheers from the packed-out opening Friday night audience at the Odeon Leicester Square, I'm telling ya!)

Something like that. I still say Mackenzie Crook must be Q, and perhaps someone like Amita Dhiri (THIS LIFE) for Moneypenny.

Chomps on cigar: "Sign that boy up NOW!"

[triviachamp]

If they bring back Moneypenny shouldn't she actually have you know, an actual purpose? At least have her actually do something as M's secretary, as supposed to have her there for some pointless flirting. Didn't Lois Maxwell pine for Bond for over 20 years with no resolution whatsoever?

As for Q if they do bring him back I hope they don't try to imitate Desmond and try to get a younger fellow who is less ridiculous and has a different attitude toward Bond.

[Vauxhall]

Loomis' suggestion of a pre-credit sequence for BOND 22 has almost changed my opinion of Moneypenny returning. It may be worth bringing her back just for the sake of an introductory meeting with Bond...

[triviachamp]

Loomis' suggestion of a pre-credit sequence for BOND 22 has almost changed my opinion of Moneypenny returning. It may be worth bringing her back just for the sake of an introductory meeting with Bond...

What about the rest of the series then?

[Vauxhall]

Loomis' suggestion of a pre-credit sequence for BOND 22 has almost changed my opinion of Moneypenny returning. It may be worth bringing her back just for the sake of an introductory meeting with Bond...

What about the rest of the series then?

That's why I said "almost" changed my opinion