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[The JB Shop]

Hi,

This weekend i saw the movie B13 - 13th DISTRICT (French title Banlieue 13).

It was so ovius that the action free running secuence in Casino Royale had stolen their idea from this movie.

The movie has a pretty poor story and dialouge but the free running is awsome. I really liked the movie.

anyone else here who has seen the movie and if so, du you feel the same as me?

Any french members of this forum who likes to comment?

All the best

From Sweden with love.

[plankattack]

In an intereview somewhere (an old British GQ maybe - sorry, I do a terrible job of remembering sources!!!) Campbell is asked about the influence of the Bourne movies on CR. In his reply, he mentions District B13 (this reference was the reason I rented this movie and the free-running is incredible - if you don't want to watch the whole thing, YouTube has sections you can access). So whether they "stole" it or not, is up to interpretation, but at least Campbell acknowledges the appearance of free-running in prior movie.

But as they say, there's no such thing as an original idea in Hollywood anymore!

[HildebrandRarity]

They've been borrowing from ideas since the early 60s. Nothing new i'm afraid.

From Russia With Love 'borrows' ('steals' in your terms) a famous scene from Hitchcock's North By Northwest, as an example.

This year the "best picture Oscar" went to a 'stolen' movie which only a year earlier was made in Hong Kong.

Anything else?

Edited by HildebrandRarity, 09 July 2007 - 05:32 PM.

[dodge]

The Untouchables offered a frame-by-frame remake of a famous sequence in old film, The Battleship Potemkin: you know the one, the baby carriage going down the steps?

Here we have a form of running, which can no more be copyrighted than any martial art. I've seen District 13, and was blown away. Campbell saw something he liked and made it his own. And that's a far cry, imo, from ripping off the earlier film.

[The Dove]

Who the hell cares if the free running sequence in Casino Royale is borrowing from other films??!! Its pretty damn exciting and just one of many highlights in a terrific Bond movie.

[HildebrandRarity]

Who the hell cares if the free running sequence in Casino Royale is borrowing from other films??!!

Appearently our man in Stockholm.

;-)

[stamper]

Yeah, the writers said they took the idea from a BBC documentary. It's in the supplements of the DVD. I saw Assault, but totally forgot there was a free running sequence in there. In fact, I totally forgot the movie, it doesn't even touch the original from 1976. these remakes, they all sucks the blood of the real cinema. It's being vampire being involved in such folly.

[dinovelvet]

Well, District B13 "stole" its plot (what plot there is) from Escape from New York, so its all fair. Are there any films made today that have entirely original storylines and do not borrow/are not influenced in any way by anything that has come before?
Its a silly statement anyway. Free running/parkour is an activity, a sport, an artform of sorts. You can't "own" it. Its like if the producer of the first film ever to feature a car chase said that nobody could ever use car chases in their films in the future. Ain't gonna happen, well, I mean, it DIDN'T happen.

Yeah, the writers said they took the idea from a BBC documentary. It's in the supplements of the DVD. I saw Assault, but totally forgot there was a free running sequence in there. In fact, I totally forgot the movie, it doesn't even touch the original from 1976. these remakes, they all sucks the blood of the real cinema. It's being vampire being involved in such folly.

Sounds like you're thinking of the recent Ethan Hawke/Laurence Fishburne remake of Assault on Precinct 13. This is an entirely different film, District B-13 (US title) which stars free-runner David Belle. Though, coincidentally, the film is pretty much a ripoff of a different John Carpenter film, Escape from New York.

They've been borrowing from ideas since the early 60s. Nothing new i'm afraid.

From Russia With Love 'borrows' ('steals' in your terms) a famous scene from Hitchcock's North By Northwest, as an example.

Yep, and Bond has always been about incorporating current cinema trends, e.g. blaxploitation elements in LALD, martial arts in TMWTGG, Star Wars in MR, Indiana Jones type scenes in OP, Miami Vice/rogue cop storyline in LTK, Hong Kong action flicks in TND, etc etc.

[spynovelfan]

Didn't they just see the BBC ad and, like a million other Bond fans, think 'Cool. That would be great in a Bond film'?

[Gri007]

Doesn't Die Hard 4.0 pay homeage to CR with it Freerunning sequence??

[dodge]

Doesn't Die Hard 4.0 pay homeage to CR with it Freerunning sequence??

It does, and it's so poorly and speedily, imo, that it'll increase many members' respect for CR and Martin Campbell

[Santa]

Yes, and Gone With the Wind was a film set in wartime, so clearly Saving Private Ryan was ripping it off something rotten. And Dirty Harry had guns in it - must have ripped off James Bond films.

[Mister Asterix]

[mra]Just watched the District 13 sequence. It

[MarcAngeDraco]

The Untouchables offered a frame-by-frame remake of a famous sequence in old film, The Battleship Potemkin: you know the one, the baby carriage going down the steps?

And both of them are classic scenes. I can still recall seeing The Untouchables in the theater and being absolutely riveted during that scene. The tension builds for what seems like an eternity before anything even happens. And then the payoff is more than worth the wait!

[Bucky]

in movies it is not called stealing it is called "paying homage"

[K1Bond007]

Influenced at best. Being the first notable movie to do it doesn't mean everyone after stole it. Besides as someone else said Bond films have been influenced by tons of other movies/scenes in the past and that number is probably 1000x as large for the amount of movies/scenes that are influenced by Bond. It's the circle of filmmaking.