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[Nicolas Suszczyk]

I made this fan video in Flash. Please excuse me the bad quality of the video, I haven't got a DVD drive, so I had to use my VCD copy of Casino Royale.

http://www.geocities...Vie_En_Rose.swf

Coming Soon
Casino Royale - Barry's Cut: The best sequences of the film using tracks from John Barry 007 soundtracks.

[coco1997]

I LIKE it! It may be a bit too loud, but it adds a real sense of "class" to the film. I feel that a much more "jazz-flavored" score to the film would have been new and refreshing.

[David Schofield]

Yes, it certainly does add that classic Bond feel to the scene that is so evident in the films of the 60s - Connery in the casino in DN and Thunderball, Laz in OHMSS - which is missing from CR, IMO.

I feel the filmakers missed a trick here not using the song, even the Grace Jones version. It is expicitly used in the book (and its impact referenced in DAF) and as this mock-up shows, really works.

Well done:tup:

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Thanks!

I used the Louis Armstrong version, which contains a long trumpet solo before the song.

Dave, what's "IMO"? Some English expressions are still difficult for an Argentinean, beside having a 10/10 in English at School.

Thanks for all your support. I also did the Main Titles with the "James Bond Theme" ('62 version), and the Ending with "This Never Happened to the other Fella" (from OHMSS), and then the JBT '62 again. I didn't post those two videos because of the bad quality of them.

Edited by nicolas_suszczyk, 24 June 2007 - 02:26 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

Very, VERY nice! An extremely classic feel given out there :tip:
Oh and 'IMO' stands for "In My Opinion"

[Germanlady]

It says, side is currently not available?

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Very, VERY nice! An extremely classic feel given out there

Thanks, Mharkin. Excuse me the bad quality of the video. It's very difficult editing videos for me.

Oh and 'IMO' stands for "In My Opinion"

Thanks. I'll use it on an English excercise or test at School! You know, I can speak English very well thanks to my Mom, James Bond and CBn !

PS: I'll put another link to the video for those who cannot see it.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Hope you can see it now, Germanlady...

http://www.geocities...Vie_En_Rose.swf

[MarcAngeDraco]

I feel the filmakers missed a trick here not using the song, even the Grace Jones version. It is expicitly used in the book (and its impact referenced in DAF) and as this mock-up shows, really works.

I tend to agree. It would have been a great nod to the novels and would have been so very simple to do... Oh well.

[Doubleshot]

In my opinion, what factors in making the dinner scene so effective and relaxing is that it's quiet. It gives us a release from the tense music and atmosphere of the card games/suspense sequences and allows us a moment to breath with the characters as they warm to each other. Any music at all, IMO, would have taken away the beauty of the scene.

[Germanlady]

Hope you can see it now, Germanlady...

http://www.geocities...Vie_En_Rose.swf

Yes, thank you.

[Marketto007]

Hope you can see it now, Germanlady...

http://www.geocities...Vie_En_Rose.swf

That was great Nicolas. I'll do one version too. Awsome...

xxx

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Obrigado again, Marketto.

I'm sure you're better for this than me.

[byline]

In my opinion, what factors in making the dinner scene so effective and relaxing is that it's quiet. It gives us a release from the tense music and atmosphere of the card games/suspense sequences and allows us a moment to breath with the characters as they warm to each other. Any music at all, IMO, would have taken away the beauty of the scene.

I agree. This was essentially the calm in the midst of the storm. The fact that it was early morning, the restaurant mostly deserted, was a lovely, quite believable touch.

[erniecureo]

I agree. This was essentially the calm in the midst of the storm. The fact that it was early morning, the restaurant mostly deserted, was a lovely, quite believable touch.

In my opinion, what factors in making the dinner scene so effective and relaxing is that it's quiet. It gives us a release from the tense music and atmosphere of the card games/suspense sequences and allows us a moment to breath with the characters as they warm to each other. Any music at all, IMO, would have taken away the beauty of the scene.

The way it was set up originally, diners were seated at the surrounding tables, and a jazz combo was "playing" at the entrance to the dining room--basically, where the camera was set up for the establishing shot. It was DC's idea to clear the room to make it more intimate...I think it works better that way, myself.

[byline]

The way it was set up originally, diners were seated at the surrounding tables, and a jazz combo was "playing" at the entrance to the dining room--basically, where the camera was set up for the establishing shot. It was DC's idea to clear the room to make it more intimate...I think it works better that way, myself.

I agree. Not only that, but it was also more believable because at that hour, it's not likely that there would be that much activity going on in the restaurant.

[Binyamin]

Firsthand info from our very own spy! Thanks for the trivia Ernie

[David Schofield]

The way it was set up originally, diners were seated at the surrounding tables, and a jazz combo was "playing" at the entrance to the dining room--basically, where the camera was set up for the establishing shot. It was DC's idea to clear the room to make it more intimate...I think it works better that way, myself.

I agree. Not only that, but it was also more believable because at that hour, it's not likely that there would be that much activity going on in the restaurant.

Of course, Fleming gets round the issue of time by stating that it is a nightclub, hence the number of people around at that hour.

And I know we have canonised Craig for almost everything he has done with Bond, but I think he made a mistake here not letting the scene play out as Ernie suggests it was set up

[byline]

And I know we have canonised Craig for almost everything he has done with Bond, but I think he made a mistake here not letting the scene play out as Ernie suggests it was set up

We'll agree to disagree. I don't put Craig up on a pedestal, but certainly enjoyed his performance. And, for whatever reason, all the choices made for this film -- including this one -- feel absolutely right to me. Just my opinion, of course.

[David Schofield]

And I know we have canonised Craig for almost everything he has done with Bond, but I think he made a mistake here not letting the scene play out as Ernie suggests it was set up

We'll agree to disagree. I don't put Craig up on a pedestal, but certainly enjoyed his performance. And, for whatever reason, all the choices made for this film -- including this one -- feel absolutely right to me. Just my opinion, of course.

Sorry worry, byline, wasn't being personally critical.

Its just that I would have prefered a Fleming playing of the scene - in the nighclub, full of people have close, secret discussion, "dripping with seduction" as Fleming described it. Basically, in Fleming Bond uis trying, simply, to get into Vesper's knickers and is using the nighclub atmosphere to help: I prefer that reading of Bond to Craig/Director/Screenwriters take of Bond feeling emotionally vulnerable toward Vesper (for no clear reason, either).

It's probably one of the few parts of CR I am disappointed with.

[byline]

Sorry worry, byline, wasn't being personally critical.

Understood.

I guess I do understand why Bond was warming up to Vesper, and not just in a physical sense. After all, she'd just saved his life with the defibrillator (not in the book). Also, they'd had that earlier shower scene (also not in the book). So, for me, these were two very good reasons for why he was feeling some emotional vulnerability toward Vesper . . . and, for that matter, she for him, though she was doing a good job of hiding it at that point. Those were dynamics that came across quite clearly in their exchange in the restaurant, even though we didn't fully understand it at the time. When Bond comments on Vesper's necklace, she is quite unnerved by his recognition of the fact that someone gave that to her. It was only much later on that we realized why she was so disturbed by his observation. IMO, all of that makes perfect sense within the context of the story as filmed.

[David Schofield]

Sorry worry, byline, wasn't being personally critical.

Understood.

I guess I do understand why Bond was warming up to Vesper, and not just in a physical sense. After all, she'd just saved his life with the defibrillator (not in the book). Also, they'd had that earlier shower scene (also not in the book). So, for me, these were two very good reasons for why he was feeling some emotional vulnerability toward Vesper . . . and, for that matter, she for him, though she was doing a good job of hiding it at that point. Those were dynamics that came across quite clearly in their exchange in the restaurant, even though we didn't fully understand it at the time. When Bond comments on Vesper's necklace, she is quite unnerved by his recognition of the fact that someone gave that to her. It was only much later on that we realized why she was so disturbed by his observation. IMO, all of that makes perfect sense within the context of the story as filmed.

Very true. Sadly, I am an old Fleming fan who wants everything done by the "book".

[byline]

Very true. Sadly, I am an old Fleming fan who wants everything done by the "book".

Then surely you've been an unhappy camper for a very long time now?

[David Schofield]

Very true. Sadly, I am an old Fleming fan who wants everything done by the "book".

Then surely you've been an unhappy camper for a very long time now?

No, I'm sufficient of a realist to know when cinematic rules and regs apply.

And also when the literary version can be filmed almost verbatim, such as here, without damaging the cinematic project.

[byline]

No, I'm sufficient of a realist to know when cinematic rules and regs apply.

And also when the literary version can be filmed almost verbatim, such as here, without damaging the cinematic project.

That's probably another area where we'll agree to disagree. IMO, the changes that were made to the film version of "Casino Royale" were necessary on two fronts: to update the story for a contemporary audience, and also to make the film enjoyable as a film (as opposed to a book on tape). Too often, people feel that a book must be translated literally to the screen, not fully understanding how different the two media are. I'm not saying that you don't get that, but for me, and for those reasons, "Casino Royale" was a highly satisfying film adaptation because all involved understood the differences and knew how to make the literary text work in a visual medium.

[Bucky]

No, I'm sufficient of a realist to know when cinematic rules and regs apply.

And also when the literary version can be filmed almost verbatim, such as here, without damaging the cinematic project.

That's probably another area where we'll agree to disagree. IMO, the changes that were made to the film version of "Casino Royale" were necessary on two fronts: to update the story for a contemporary audience, and also to make the film enjoyable as a film (as opposed to a book on tape). Too often, people feel that a book must be translated literally to the screen, not fully understanding how different the two media are. I'm not saying that you don't get that, but for me, and for those reasons, "Casino Royale" was a highly satisfying film adaptation because all involved understood the differences and knew how to make the literary text work in a visual medium.

i agree with that. that is why casino royale worked so well for me and other movies like the da vinci code and the first two harry potter films failed to satisfy me. it was still easy to recognize the story as being that of casino royale but it was adapted to film in a manner that was necessary where as a straight adaptation would have not been as good in my opinion.

as for your video, it is an interesting take on the scene. i would have lowered the volume on the music personally as it was a little overpowering.

[Fro]

Very nice... I'll have to get around to making my edits with the Edith Piaf version of "La Vie en Rose" and the "The Look of Love" that I talked about on here after the DVD was released.

Edited by Fro, 27 June 2007 - 03:16 AM.