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Why didn't they use James' son?


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#1 Mr Twilight

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 10:15 AM

Wonder why they didn't use James Bond's own son instead of his non-excisting brothers son? It would have fitted better in the "Bond universe". Glidrose should have demanded the writer to keep the closer to Fleming's "Bond universe" than they did. It might have been more accepted by the readers. It's the same with Pearson's Bond biography (referring to his "brother" Henry)

#2 ACE

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 10:52 AM

I don't know. Maybe they didn't know how to get Bond's son back from Japan and explain it all.

Or maybe they just didn't bother. Reading 003 1/2 The Adventures of James Bond, you can see not much care was spent on it. Certainly not as much as has been lavished on the Young Bond series.

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 11:25 AM

Also, 'The Adventures Of James Suzuki' doesn't have the same ring about it. ;-)

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 11:45 AM

Also, 'The Adventures Of James Suzuki' doesn't have the same ring about it. ;-)


Oh, I don't know Head of S.

When I got on my Bond Jnr motorbike this morning.... :cooltongue:

#5 Mr Twilight

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 12:11 PM

Got my copy of 003 1/2 The Adventures of James Bond a few weeks ago and have read a few chapters. So far I'm not too excited. Apart from the name - James Bond jr - it could have been about anybody, cause to me it seems the characters doesn't have much of to do with the rest of the the "Bond universe". Change his name to... John Smith or something like that and nobody had noticed. No, no hit in my opinion. IFP and Charlie Higson did a much better job with the Young Bond-concept I must say.

I don't know but if they had used James Suzuki alias James Bond Jr it might have worked better but not entirely saved the book.

#6 David Schofield

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 12:24 PM

Just an observation, but wouldn't James Suzuki have been about four or five when Mascott's book was published? A tad too young for daring do, and all that?

Hell, Higson pushes credility about as far as it will go will a 13 year old action-boy...

#7 Mr Twilight

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 12:44 PM

Yes, I guess he was too young but let's say Mascott had let him be a teenager anyway to make it credibly. As in a alternative universe.

Maybe not. There would have been too many alternative universes in the Bond world today anyway.

Well, now the book excists and we can't do nothing about it but accept it or ignore it. I think the book is just a waste of paper. My opinion.

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 01:30 PM

As a related aside, there is more than a little nudge and wink regarding a James Suzuki in a book named Tulku by Stephen K. Hayes. So far as I know, it's out of print; but, if you can find a copy, I think the you'll see that the implication was pretty obvious.

For the record, the author neither confirms nor denies that the anonymous Scottsman who fathered James Suzuki is none other than our own much-beloved Bond. I've asked him in person.

#9 FLEMINGFAN

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 02:23 PM

Unfortunately, after that 1968 book, any the 'offspring' of James Bond are owned by EON and cannot be used in print by GLIDROSE (IFP). That is why Raymond Benson could not write about James' son in his short-story BLAST FROM THE PAST, but coud only reference his death.

The 'nephew' of Bond was in EON's JAMEs BOND JR., but it is the 'real' James Bond that is in the YOUNG JAMES BOND series, and not an offspring.

As if it all really matters.......

#10 ACE

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 02:34 PM

As if it all really matters.......


Yes. James Bond's son was of as little account as sparrow's tears...

#11 Garth007

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 04:24 PM

James had a son by who i never heard of this before?! were have i been.

#12 ACE

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 04:25 PM

James had a son by who i never heard of this before?! were have i been.

Have you read the novels by Ian Fleming, John Pearson and the first Raymond Benson short story?

By who? The son's last name is Suzuki - does it give you a clue?

It's all in there!

#13 Garth007

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 04:33 PM

I haven't read all of them. I've only been able to read Casino Royale, Live and Let Die, Dr.No, From Russia with Love those of Ian Fleming. My libary here dosent have all of the books wich sucks because i cant buy them because i dont have the money and the only three books i own is Casino Royale, Scorpious, and For Special Services.

I want to read them all.

#14 Qwerty

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 04:42 PM

I want to read them all.


That's there spirit! If there are any used bookstores nearby, those are often a goldmine for first-time Fleming collectors (and you can usually find some Gardners in there as well.

And there is always eBay of course...

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 04:52 PM

I want to read them all.


That's there spirit! If there are any used bookstores nearby, those are often a goldmine for first-time Fleming collectors (and you can usually find some Gardners in there as well.

And there is always eBay of course...

I know but its like every time i get the money to get them i ends up i have to pay off my dets. and i need to get them paid of first so i have aleast anouther month till there paid off so and also my birthday to ill ask for those aswell. as going to books stores around here. the only place is hastings and they only carry Silverfin and thats it. walmart dont have any whats so ever and I'll have to try ebay WHEN i get the money. so thanks for the help. ill try ebay. but still what is this with bond having a son. could u fill me in real fast.

#16 ACE

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 05:06 PM

I know but its like every time i get the money to get them i ends up i have to pay off my dets.

Yeah, I remember those days of dets (sic) too. :cooltongue: Saving my pennies for second hand copies and anxiously going to the library. Good on you Garth007. Keep reading though. You'll love them all.

James Bond has an affair with a beautiful Japanese Ama diving girl called Kissy Suzuki in the novel You Only Live Twice (very different to the film) and at the end it is revealed that she is pregnant with James Bond's son.

In a fictional book, The Authorized Biography of 007, author John Pearson says the son is called James Suzuki.

The son is mentioned off-stage in the first Raymond Benson short story, Blast From The Past.

So, James Bond is or was a daddy. Well, that's the only kid we know about but from the way he sowed his oats, there could be coupla kids out there. I figure Vivienne Michel might have got a bun in her oven. Maybe Tiffany Case (she lived with Bond for a time). Honeychile too.

#17 Garth007

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 05:10 PM

I know but its like every time i get the money to get them i ends up i have to pay off my dets.

Yeah, I remember those days of dets (sic) too. :cooltongue: Saving my pennies for second hand copies and anxiously going to the library. Good on you Garth007. Keep reading though. You'll love them all.

James Bond has an affair with a beautiful Japanese Ama diving girl called Kissy Suzuki in the novel You Only Live Twice (very different to the film) and at the end it is revealed that she is pregnant with James Bond's son.

In a fictional book, The Authorized Biography of 007, author John Pearson says the son is called James Suzuki.

The son is mentioned off-stage in the first Raymond Benson short story, Blast From The Past.

So, James Bond is or was a daddy. Well, that's the only kid we know about but from the way he sowed his oats, there could be coupla kids out there. I figure Vivienne Michel might have got a bun in her oven. Maybe Tiffany Case (she lived with Bond for a time). Honeychile too.

lol. thats is so funny. i wounder what his exprestion on his face was when he found out.

#18 ACE

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 05:19 PM

lol. thats is so funny. i wounder what his exprestion on his face was when he found out.


Bond was taken away by the Russians and and Kissy didn't tell him about his son.

The begging letters from a remote Japanese island didn't help. Then the lawyers got involved and Kissy wanted maintenance for his son. M said to Bond that it was a good thing he lived in London. Kissy wanted half of the flat and one of the Aston Martins - the new one, she said he could keep the classic one. Bond fought it throughout the 1970's (that's why he couldn't write his adventures). Anyway, he eventually met his son whom he called Jimmy. They went to the ball game most weekends (Bond was a Rams fan while Jimmy preferred the Chiefs) and after a White Castle burger, they would go for a Coors beer or two in that Cheers bar round the corner. Bond always get nachos but his son prefers pretzels. Occasionally they'd go to a Hooters*

Yup, you've got a lot to look forward to, Garth007.









*I've made this paragraph up :cooltongue:

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 05:39 PM

lol. thats is so funny. i wounder what his exprestion on his face was when he found out.


Bond was taken away by the Russians and and Kissy didn't tell him about his son.

The begging letters from a remote Japanese island didn't help. Then the lawyers got involved and Kissy wanted maintenance for his son. M said to Bond that it was a good thing he lived in London. Kissy wanted half of the flat and one of the Aston Martins - the new one, she said he could keep the classic one. Bond fought it throughout the 1970's (that's why he couldn't write his adventures). Anyway, he eventually met his son whom he called Jimmy. They went to the ball game most weekends (Bond was a Rams fan while Jimmy preferred the Chiefs) and after a White Castle burger, they would go for a Coors beer or two in that Cheers bar round the corner. Bond always get nachos but his son prefers pretzels. Occasionally they'd go to a Hooters*

Yup, you've got a lot to look forward to, Garth007.









*I've made this paragraph up :angry:



lol dude that is so funny :cooltongue:

#20 ACE

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 06:58 PM

lol dude that is so funny :cooltongue:

Why? Coz Barnd is a Rams fan? :angry:

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 01:35 AM

I'm not quite clear on how EON would have gotten rights to the character of Bond's child with Kissy. Was this another part of the McClory "film scripts"?

#22 ACE

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 10:27 AM

No, nothing to do with McClory.

In fiction, a property such as a book, is purchased. The purchaser owns that story featuring those characters. However, it does not prevent the creator of the character using said character in other, creative works not based on the story already purchased.

It is my understanding that Danjaq (et al - NB Eon does not hold any copyrights) purchased the (film) rights to the Bond character (and others created by Ian Fleming). I understand this was done in the late 1970's. Note, "Q" was created by the films (I know he is Boothroyd but in the novels he never just "Q").

It is for this reason that Danjaq do not need to option continuation novels and can create their own Bond stories.

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 02:24 PM

lol dude that is so funny :cooltongue:

Why? Coz Barnd is a Rams fan? :angry:

It wasnt that it was the other stuff in the paragraph.

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 01:26 AM

lol dude that is so funny :cooltongue:

Why? Coz Barnd is a Rams fan? :angry:

It wasnt that it was the other stuff in the paragraph.

Who do you support? The Rams or The Chiefs?