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[tdalton]

According to Rob Zombie, the rumor circulating that Myers would spend 70% of the film without the Shatner mask on is untrue, telling Halloweenmovies.com this:

“Well, the truth is the movie is just now being edited so the exact percentage of mask wearing is unclear at this point. But fear not, Michael is seen wearing the mask as much if not more than you’ve ever seen him wearing a mask in any Halloween film.” - Rob Zombie

Also, included in the same story is a picture of Myers wearing the significantly degraded mask covered up by the hooded jumpsuit that I mentioned in a previous post in this thread). Also, as shown in an ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT sneak peek of the film, the mask has a rip on the right side that exposes part of Myers' face.

Will Michael be Wearing the Mask?

[dodge]

This ain't lookin' good at all--it's lookin' downright awesome.

[Loomis]

Good grief, how long will people keep buying this crap? Not that I'm anything other than a fine one to preach, mind, but, seriously....

If the world is truly salivating in anticipation for a film with the beyond-parody title of H2: HALLOWEEN 2, then the world deserves all it gets.

[tdalton]

If the world is truly salivating in anticipation for a film with the beyond-parody title of H2: HALLOWEEN 2, then the world deserves all it gets.

H2: HALLOWEEN 2 isn't going to be the final title, though, if Zombie ends up getting what he wants. It's already been stated several times that he wants the film to be called either HALLOWEEN: THE DEVIL WALKS AMONG US or just THE DEVIL WALKS AMONG US. There's either a video or an article out there somewhere that I've seen in which he states that H2 was never meant to be anything other than a teaser title (much like how the Bond films are called BOND (INSERT NUMBER HERE) before they're given a proper title), and that he doesn't like it at all as a potential final title for the film.

[Safari Suit]

Awesome news: Rob Zombie is doing a HALLOWEEN sequel! That's what I'm talking about! Oh yeah baby! YEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! WOOOOWOOOOWOOOO!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39465

Good grief, how long will people keep buying this crap? Not that I'm anything other than a fine one to preach, mind, but, seriously....

If the world is truly salivating in anticipation for a film with the beyond-parody title of H2: HALLOWEEN 2, then the world deserves all it gets.

Not saying you can't change your mind on things but, um, what gives?

[Harmsway]

Yeah, I'm a bit curious myself about Loomis' turnaround.

[00Twelve]

Yeah, I'm a bit curious myself about Loomis' turnaround.

I'm relieved.

[Loomis]

Ain't no turnaround, really. Perhaps I just got out of bed the wrong side that day. Still, I was severely underwhelmed by that so-called sneak preview, and it seems laughable to have Michael looking like Harry Knowles. However, I'm sure I'll be up for a DVD viewing of ROB ZOMBIE'S HALLOWEEN: H2: HALLOWEEN II: THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA: H-II, or whatever chavtastic title it'll finally be landed with.

[The Ghost Who Walks]

I recently watched the original Halloween for the first time. Great film. Seen some of the sequels, and they're all, Season of the Witch aside, basically loose remakes of the first (though the fourth one had a killer final shot, no pun intended).

At least Zombie is seemingly trying something new with H2, and I will see it if the reviews are decent (I avoided his first film because of the awful things critics said about it).

All these horror remakes bore me endlessly, though, and I can't imagine seeing most of them. I will check out the new Elm Street due to Jackie Earle Haley playing Freddy Krueger, but that's as far as my interest goes. Most of today's horror is either too bloody (I loathe torture pørn) or dull and generic.

[Safari Suit]

I thought Billy Bob Thornton was going to be the new Freddy? Ah well, it's from Michael Bay's Platinum Dunes company who gave us the excrable Texas Chainsaw and Amityville remakes, so I don't think casting anyone interesting in the lead role will make much difference.

[The Ghost Who Walks]

Nah, Haley was announced recently. Great actor judging from the brilliant Watchmen, and I am curious to see what he will do with the part.

[Harmsway]

H2 Teaser Trailer

Looks far worse than I suspected it would, and I was by no means expecting anything great. I don't know what Zombie was thinking in regards to dressing up Myers' mom like that, but it's an astonishingly awful decision.

[Loomis]

I don't know what Zombie was thinking in regards to dressing up Myers' mom like that, but it's an astonishingly awful decision.

It's presumably so that us dummies will realise she's supposed to be a ghost. To show her with her face blown away a la Two-Face or that ghost kid in THE SIXTH SENSE with half his head missing might have been more appropriate (if memory serves, she shot herself Kurt Cobain-style in the first one), albeit far more gory and extreme, although it hardly appears as though Mr Zombie has a problem with things gory or extreme.

This does at least promise to be a better film than HALLOWEEN II, although that's not exactly saying much.

[Harmsway]

This does at least promise to be a better film than HALLOWEEN II, although that's not exactly saying much.

Not from where I'm standing; I think HALLOWEEN II looks to be vastly superior to this debacle.

[tdalton]

I think that the teaser looks pretty good, although I hope that they don't focus too much of the film in the hospital, as it would come across as being too much like the first HALLOWEEN 2. The only thing that I can really say is that this is the only film that I'm looking forward to seeing this summer (the rest of the summer slate doesn't do the least bit for me).

[Doctor No]

I'm definitely interested. I liked the 2nd half of his 1st Halloween alot more the 1st half. So other than having to have more of his wife in this movie(UGH!!!) and some of the talk about the mask in this one, I'm in right now.

[Loomis]

This does at least promise to be a better film than HALLOWEEN II, although that's not exactly saying much.

Not from where I'm standing; I think HALLOWEEN II looks to be vastly superior to this debacle.

Well, HALLOWEEN II is, of course, a pretty awful film, so it's not as though Rick Rosenthal has set Zombie an especially high bar to jump over.

One of the things that impresses me most about Zombie's HALLOWEEN is its visual style, and I have no doubt that H2 will be a far more interesting flick to look at than HALLOWEEN II (which in any case is largely invisible, being set mostly in semi-darkness - this is, I guess, a small mercy). Also, I suspect that the performances in H2 will be rather better.

And I haven't even mentioned Zombie's apparent Interesting Story Elements™, be they successful or not, such as the bearded Michael. No, H2 may not be anything special, but if HALLOWEEN II were to clamber into the ring with it I wouldn't fancy HALLOWEEN II's chances.

[dodge]

Too soon to judge from a teaser. But I'll trust my own instincts, which point to a fun and original film from the delightfully named Mr. Zombie.

[Harmsway]

Well, HALLOWEEN II is, of course, a pretty awful film, so it's not as though Rick Rosenthal has set Zombie an especially high bar to jump over.

That's hardly universally agreed upon. I've often seen HALLOWEEN II named the best of the sequels, and a quick IMDB survey shows that there, at least, the internet fans have rated it the highest of all the follow-ups to Carpenter's original.

Now, it's been a very long while since I've seen any of the HALLOWEEN sequels, but I do recall feeling more amiable towards HALLOWEEN II than most of 'em.

One of the things that impresses me most about Zombie's HALLOWEEN is its visual style, and I have no doubt that H2 will be a far more interesting flick to look at than HALLOWEEN II (which in any case is largely invisible, being set mostly in semi-darkness - this is, I guess, a small mercy).

You liked Zombie's HALLOWEEN for its visuals? I thought it was a remarkably ugly-looking film, and this new teaser makes H2 look even uglier than the first flick. Zombie has absolutely no visual elegance.

Not that HALLOWEEN II is interesting to look at - it's so bland as to make John Glen look like a visual stylist of the highest order - but it didn't make me want to scratch my eyes out like the trailer for Zombie's H2 does.

Also, I suspect that the performances in H2 will be rather better.

That teaser trailer makes me think otherwise.

This abominable teaser does have one positive aspect, at least. It suggests that Zombie has completed his work on this franchise, so maybe it means that they can let this series rest in peace. Or at least get away from a filmmaker as talentless as Rob Zombie.

[Loomis]

Well, HALLOWEEN II is, of course, a pretty awful film, so it's not as though Rick Rosenthal has set Zombie an especially high bar to jump over.

That's hardly universally agreed upon. I've often seen HALLOWEEN II named the best of the sequels, and a quick IMDB survey shows that there, at least, the internet fans have rated it the highest of all the follow-ups to Carpenter's original.

Now, it's been a very long while since I've seen any of the HALLOWEEN sequels, but I do recall feeling more amiable towards HALLOWEEN II than most of 'em.

HALLOWEEN II gets cut a lot of slack because Carpenter took an active role on it (even directing certain sequences). Plus, it's got Curtis (although she's probably given less to do than any other lead in history) and Pleasence, so it's Classic HALLOWEEN™. However, once you get past its pedigree, it's dreck.

Where HALLOWEEN has rich subtext and characters to care about, HALLOWEEN II has only melodrama and uninteresting/unpleasant people. Where HALLOWEEN trades on atmosphere and suspense (it's much less explicitly bloody than you might assume), HALLOWEEN II is just a nauseating gorefest. Now, I know I don't need to convince you that HALLOWEEN is a much better film than HALLOWEEN II, but I do wonder whether you've forgotten how bad HALLOWEEN II actually is.

For me, the best of the sequels is unquestionably H20, followed by CURSE and then maybe 5: REVENGE. All the others are worthless.

You liked Zombie's HALLOWEEN for its visuals?

Yep. I think it's very well-shot, with good production design.

This abominable teaser does have one positive aspect, at least. It suggests that Zombie has completed his work on this franchise

Does it? How so?

[Harmsway]

Now, I know I don't need to convince you that HALLOWEEN is a much better film than HALLOWEEN II, but I do wonder whether you've forgotten how bad HALLOWEEN II actually is.

Well, as I've said, it's been a long time since I've seen any of the HALLOWEEN sequels, but I don't recall it being significantly worse than the rest of the pack. I actually recall think that it was one of the better of 'em (they're all bad, though).

Yep. I think it's very well-shot, with good production design.

I'm dumbfounded (but it's hardly the first time I've been left speechless in a discussion with you ).

Does it? How so?

The voice-over says, "On August 28, Rob Zombie completes his extreme vision of a terrifying vision." Nothing too conclusive, but the suggestion that Zombie's done with Michael Myers is certainly there.

[Loomis]

The voice-over says, "On August 28, Rob Zombie completes his extreme vision of a terrifying vision." Nothing too conclusive, but the suggestion that Zombie's done with Michael Myers is certainly there.

A nation mourns.

But does it really say "his extreme vision of a terrifying vision"? I can't be arsed to check. They use the word "vision" twice? In any case, what an utterly meaningless statement.

[Harmsway]

No, I think that's just my lazy, absent-minded typing.

[Harmsway]

Here's a good pic of Zombie's hobo take on Michael Myers:

[Mr. Blofeld]

Here's a good pic of Zombie's hobo take on Michael Myers:

Damn, that looks goofy...

[Safari Suit]

What we can see of his face looks surprisingly normal.

[Loomis]

Indeed. Looks more like a fanboy at Comic-Con dressed up as Michael Myers. At any rate, it isn't in any way scary or impressive.

[The Dove]

So after seeing the trailer for H2, I'm actually kind of interested... It looks like a complete remake of the original Halloween 2, just as Zombie's first Halloween flick was a remake of the original...Whew!! Good thing they gave up the numbering system otherwise these would SO confuse people.. like so:

Halloween (1978)
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween III: Season of The Witch (1982) This should not count!!
Halloween IV: (1988) (which should really be Halloween III)
Halloween V: (1989) (should be Halloween IV)
Halloween The Curse of Michael Myers #VI:(1995) (its probably a good thing they stopped numbering here, since this would technically be Halloween V)
Halloween H20 #VII: (1998)#VI
Halloween Resurrection #VIII: should really be #VII
Halloween (2007): reboot!! Is technically #1 again but numerically is #8!!
H2: (2009) Is technically #2 again but numerically is #9 or if counting in the third movie, should be #10..

Confused yet!!

[Loomis]

How about the Rambo flicks for title chaos?

FIRST BLOOD was followed by RAMBO: FIRST BLOOD PART II (popularly shortened to RAMBO). Now, I've seen early publicity material for the third movie calling it RAMBO: FIRST BLOOD PART III, but the thing eventually emerged as RAMBO III. And what came after RAMBO III? RAMBO IV? Nope, RAMBO. Which wasn't only the title by which most everyone thought of the second one, but also a widely used alternative title for the first one as well (it's often advertised as RAMBO: FIRST BLOOD).

[SPECTRE ASSASSIN]

Looking at the new pic of Micheal Myers, I'm going to try to see the next film with some sort of optimism as I thought the Zombie remake was great (the first half of the movie I mean mind you). But it's not quite menacing seeing the character being so damn tall, i mean it's not hard locating a 7-foot monster in hiding.