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[Qwerty]

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Peter Lamont Briefly Discusses 'Bond 22'

Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli brainstorming with the screenwriters

[JimmyBond]

An interesting, if brief, article Good job Qwerty

[Harmsway]

Glad to see BOND 22 is getting ready to begin. The big piece of news that I want is who's going to be in the director's chair (though I imagine EON will need a script before they can attract a director). But didn't Michell say there was a script? Did they throw it out, or are they just giving it an overhaul?

Man, THE DARK KNIGHT, INDY IV, and BOND 22 are all going to be spilling the gossip at the same time. I'm going to have my hands full keeping track of these films

[AgentPB]

Does this mean that from now on all bond films will have to follow a continuos story arc? That might get tiring.

[Harmsway]

Does this mean that from now on all bond films will have to follow a continuos story arc? That might get tiring.

No, I don't think it does. And something like that is almost impossible to keep up.

But I do think it's likely that the Craig films will be dominated by this story arc (I imagine he'll do a trilogy that is tied together, and then a fourth unrelated one).

[capungo]

Wow, the Bond machine's already getting revved up again?! Guess this quick start is the benefit of doing that trilogy design, as they likely already talked about where they're going to go in this one.

[Qwerty]

An interesting, if brief, article

Yeah, there isn't a whole lot, but it is still nice to have some news.

[bill007]

Thanks Qwerty.

This is confirmation that Bond 22 will be a direct follow-on to Bond 21 (CR). A first for Bond films, no? The fact that it is a sequel.

[Jack Spang]

They can have a little less humour in Craig's Bond in Bond 22 than they did in CR and he still won't be anywhere near a Dalton clone. Just have humour stemming from normal conversation. It just isn't necessary to have wise cracks after being hurt or killing someone (2 or 3 less lines than in Casino Royale). Not having this won't make the film any less popular. I didn't mind the "that last hand nearly killed me" line (CR) as that came a while later. It wasn't cheesy either.

I hope Eon and P & W (these were obviously always just rumours about these two not being involved) to write an elegant, atmospheric, dark, gritty Flemingsque spy thriller with just one less big action scene than in Royale, presuming the film will be around the same length. Otherwise, two less action scenes (one big, one small) if the film will be around two hours). Also, have Bond and the girl talk to each other a bit more naturally this time like in the pre Brosnan era. These are perfectly realistic, reasonable wishes.

Great pic of Craig there.

Edited by Jack Spang, 17 March 2007 - 11:17 PM.

[Harmsway]

It just isn't necessary to have wise cracks after being hurt or killing someone (2 or 3 less lines than in Casino Royale).

Is it necessary? I suppose not. It doesn't hurt, though, especially when you have a line like "Yes. Considerably." Such an awesome moment, and one that I wouldn't change for all the world.

[tdalton]

It just isn't necessary to have wise cracks after being hurt or killing someone (2 or 3 less lines than in Casino Royale).

Is it necessary? I suppose not. It doesn't hurt, though, especially when you have a line like "Yes. Considerably." Such an awesome moment, and one that I wouldn't change for all the world.

Agreed. That line was what made the PTS so great. Without it, I think that the film would have gotten off on the wrong foot going into the title sequence. I just can't see the PTS having the same impact if Bond had just gotten up without saying or doing anything else after dispatching Dryden and then go into the gun barrel. IMO, "Yes, considerably" was not only necessary, it may have been one of the best lines in the franchise, short of "Bond, James Bond", which Craig also delivers perfectly.

[Harmsway]

Agreed with all of that. "Yes, considerably" is a defining moment of Craig's, and has entered iconic status.

[Jack Spang]

It just isn't necessary to have wise cracks after being hurt or killing someone (2 or 3 less lines than in Casino Royale).

Is it necessary? I suppose not. It doesn't hurt, though, especially when you have a line like "Yes. Considerably." Such an awesome moment, and one that I wouldn't change for all the world.

Agreed. That line was what made the PTS so great. Without it, I think that the film would have gotten off on the wrong foot going into the title sequence. I just can't see the PTS having the same impact if Bond had just gotten up without saying or doing anything else after dispatching Dryden and then go into the gun barrel. IMO, "Yes, considerably" was not only necessary, it may have been one of the best lines in the franchise, short of "Bond, James Bond", which Craig also delivers perfectly.

I disagree. Silence can be very powerful. It's all in the eyes. Body language is the key. That line did nothing for me. It's corny. Iconic? No way. It's instantly forgettable. I guess it's the jokester cinematic Bond though, so many will probably like it. We all like Mr Bond for different reasons.

In Dr No, Bond killed Professor Dent then casually blew on his gun afterwards. Now that was a great way to end a scene!

Edited by Jack Spang, 18 March 2007 - 07:48 AM.

[bill007]

The quips WERE toned down a bit in CR. Like the Miami scene - no words, just a grin. THAT said it all.

As for "Yes. Considerably." I use it every chance I get. An immediate classic line.

[Blofeld's Cat]

As for "Yes. Considerably." I use it every chance I get. An immediate classic line.

I wonder how many people didn't (and still don't) "get" what comment that line preempted?

[Harmsway]

I disagree. Silence can be very powerful. It's all in the eyes. Body language is the key.

If Craig's body language hadn't been just right, the line wouldn't have been that great. But it works flawlessly.

That line did nothing for me. It's corny.

Nah, not if you ask me. I mean, it's not a joke or pun. It's a response. It's right up there with, "You've had your six" and all the other great lines of the franchise.

It's instantly forgettable.

Perhaps to you, but I've seen it being tossed around in conversations and on other non-Bond message boards - it seems people really like the line.

In Dr No, Bond killed Professor Dent then casually blew on his gun afterwards. Now that was a great way to end a scene!

Sure, but maybe that scene would have been even cooler if the dialogue had been written so that Connery had been able to say, "Yes, considerably" afterwards.

[Loomis]

Agreed with all of that. "Yes, considerably" is a defining moment of Craig's, and has entered iconic status.

Not quite sure I agree that it's entered iconic status, Harms (outside fandom, anyway). Don't think it's really up there with "Shaken, not stirred" or "No, I expect you to die", or ever will be.

[tdalton]

Agreed with all of that. "Yes, considerably" is a defining moment of Craig's, and has entered iconic status.

Not quite sure I agree that it's entered iconic status, Harms (outside fandom, anyway). Don't think it's really up there with "Shaken, not stirred" or "No, I expect you to die", or ever will be.

I agree in that I don't think that it has achieved that level of iconic status, yet, but I do think that it is of high enough quality to eventually reach that status. Just IMO, I find it to be one of the best lines in the entire series, and it is delivered perfectly by Craig. I think that the whole sequence was a great introduction for him, and that line really showed that Craig's Bond, even when delivering the one-liners that have become so cliche, was going to be different than what had preceeded.

[Andrew]

Agreed with all of that. "Yes, considerably" is a defining moment of Craig's, and has entered iconic status.

Not quite sure I agree that it's entered iconic status, Harms (outside fandom, anyway). Don't think it's really up there with "Shaken, not stirred" or "No, I expect you to die", or ever will be.

But to be fair I don't think we'll ever see lines that famous again.

[bill007]

Agreed with all of that. "Yes, considerably" is a defining moment of Craig's, and has entered iconic status.

Not quite sure I agree that it's entered iconic status, Harms (outside fandom, anyway). Don't think it's really up there with "Shaken, not stirred" or "No, I expect you to die", or ever will be.

But to be fair I don't think we'll ever see lines that famous again.

Yeah, but give it 40 years to work it's charm.

"Still. No worries. The second one is...."
(Phut)
"Yes. Considerably."

And the facial expression just nails it. My teenage son loved it. So, I'm sure it will make the lexicon.

[DaveBond21]

But didn't Michell say there was a script? Did they throw it out, or are they just giving it an overhaul?

Yes, there was already meant to be a script. I wonder if it was ditched, based on the success of CR?

[JimmyBond]

Yes, there was already meant to be a script. I wonder if it was ditched, based on the success of CR?

Could be on to something there. Maybe the script they wrote was more a typical Bond film. Once CR's radical approach became a hit the Producers requested something of a higher caliber.

[bill007]

Once CR's radical approach became a hit the Producers requested something of a higher caliber.

Ah, but my fellow Texian, Producers don't make requests. They issue commands.

I wouldn't be a bit suprised, that if CR had bombed, there wasn't a pre-fab, formulaic script at the ready. Along with another lead actor search. So dog-gone happy this wasn't the case.

[Jack Spang]

The only thing I've never liked about the Bond films is the one liners except in the Moore era and later Connery outings that are based more around comedy. I like consistency in tone. If we have a dark scene I think it is almost ruined by having a one liner. This will always be a small downside to the Bond flicks for me. I just cringe when I hear that line. Not because of the actual line itself (which is quite good) but because it was used in that scene. Even if Craig delivered it in a good way and his facial expression was spot on (which it was)I still find it on the cheesy side. Believe me, I wish I didn't.

I would love it if they just left the odd one liner for scenes where Bond is just having a a bit of a normal humorous conversation with someone who he isn't going to kill or be killed by. Then it harmonises with the tone of the scene.

Edited by Jack Spang, 19 March 2007 - 06:37 AM.

[DaveBond21]

Assuming filming would begin in January, when would they normally start scouting for locations, casting and announcing titles?


November 2007???

[Qwerty]

Assuming filming would begin in January, when would they normally start scouting for locations, casting and announcing titles?


November 2007???

I would guess they may be out looking for locations now or at least have a few ideas (but who knows for sure?).

The title of the film will be interesting. I'm betting if they go with another Fleming title, we'll hear about if officially much earlier than if they don't. Die Another Day was a rather late announcment, if I remember correctly.

[DaveBond21]

Let's hope we get the title in the next 4 months.