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[Doctor Shatterhand]

With the incredible success of Casino Royale and the endless possibilities of where Eon will take Daniel Craig's interpretation of OO7, I got brainstorming the other day and began to wonder who could play Miss Moneypenny.

But than I had an idea that could also explain the reason why Bond and Moneypenny never really get it on.

Hire Eva Green to play Miss Moneypenny for Bond 22 and for the rest of the Daniel Craig Bond years. Make her up to look more like a secretarial/librarian Bond girl wannabe and let the office sexual tension grow from that. She would obviously look like his long lost love (perhaps with glasses) and cannot bring himself to having sex with her due to the hurt memories. Sort of a living human shrine to Bond.

Just my two cents worth but somehow I think this would be an interesting side story. I would certainly hope Eon would at least consider this idea.



Any opinions?

[Jim]

She deserves better.

[Blonde Bond]

Lay down that bottle of cleansing agent, and take one step forward.

What I'm trying to say is; that could very well be the worst idea. Ever!

[Doctor Shatterhand]

She deserves better.

What do you mean? That the role is not big enough for her? Actors should never look to how big the role is but to what they can bring to the role.

Eva will no doubt have success in her career, but this idea might make the Craig years even more unique.

[JCRendle]

Are you sure that's not her costume for His Dark Materials: Northern Lights?

I know she's playing a witch, but wow

[Doctor Shatterhand]

Lay down that bottle of cleansing agent, and take one step forward.

What I'm trying to say is; that could very well be the worst idea. Ever!

I've been insulted by the best in the world and you're not even in the top 100. But thanks for your opinion anyway.

[English Agent]

No, No, No...........i wouldn't think that would happen, Eva Green is still too fresh
in the publics mind as Vesper Lynd...........can you imagine people thinking during
Bond 22, 'isn't that the woman who died in the last film'.

Plus i doubt Eva Green would want to play this role in future films anyway.

[JCRendle]

I've been asked by enough of my friends who know I'm a Bond fan "Was Vesper really Moneypenny?" because of the "I'm the Money" "Every penny of it", this would confuse them even more "Didn't she die in the last one?" ect.

[Doctor Shatterhand]

can you imagine people thinking during
Bond 22, 'isn't that the woman who died in the last film'.

Which is exactly the response the film makers would want to receive. It also drives home the sexual tension between them.

[Loomis]

She deserves better.

What do you mean? That the role is not big enough for her? Actors should never look to how big the role is but to what they can bring to the role.

Eva will no doubt have success in her career, but this idea might make the Craig years even more unique.

Hazarding a guess, I think Jim meant that she deserves better than being saddled with the sort of absymal material usually given to a Moneypenny actress. Granted, the role doesn't have to be about cringeworthy so-called comic relief, but somehow it normally has been.

[Doctor Shatterhand]

She deserves better.

What do you mean? That the role is not big enough for her? Actors should never look to how big the role is but to what they can bring to the role.

Eva will no doubt have success in her career, but this idea might make the Craig years even more unique.

Hazarding a guess, I think Jim meant that she deserves better than being saddled with the sort of absymal material usually given to a Moneypenny actress. Granted, the role doesn't have to be about cringeworthy so-called comic relief, but somehow it normally has been.

But given the way CR script was crisp and refreshing, it is possible to breathe new life into the Moneypenny Flirt scenes.

[English Agent]

can you imagine people thinking during
Bond 22, 'isn't that the woman who died in the last film'.

Which is exactly the response the film makers would want to receive. It also drives home the sexual tension between them.

I sort of know what your saying.........but the public would probably not accept her
as Miss Moneypenny as she has already played another (major) role in a Bond film, which
is still in everyones mind.

Anyway,

Some people might object and start a website called:-

www.evagreennotmissmoneypenny.com

Edited by English Agent, 10 February 2007 - 08:45 PM.

[JCRendle]

too late, already working on it

[HildebrandRarity]

I saw Casino Royale for the 7th and final time at the theatre last night and I was wondering something along similar (but not THAT similar) lines.

Eva Green could make an appearence in a future CraigBond BUT as a totally new character. As I watched her in the Dinner Jackets scene, I thought "if Maude Adams was brought back..."

I mean, it's not without precident in the history of the Eon films for actors to come back. Charlie Grey and Joe Don, for instance.

Right?

Doctor Shatterhand, I think you have an interesting idea...But the wrong actress for the part.

How about casting an actress that has a very strong physical/facial resemblence to Eva Green to play a future Moneypenny...It would certainly account for what you were alluding to with respect to Bond being reminded of Vesper and never coming to grips with the idea of taking Moneypenny to bed, or whatever have you.

Yes? No?

Edited by HildebrandRarity, 10 February 2007 - 08:52 PM.

[Doctor Shatterhand]

Well obviously I'm all alone on this idea. But I thought it was worth throwing out there to some of you who may have an open mind to the possibilities. Still, I have no idea how they will introduce Moneypenny in Bond 22 and still keep it fresh without it getting corny like it did during the blah Brosnan days.

[JCRendle]

[Doctor Shatterhand]

Doctor Shatterhand, I think you have an interesting idea...But the wrong actress for the part.

How about casting an actress that has a very strong physical/facial resemblence to Eva Green to play a future Moneypenny...It would certainly account for what you were alluding to with respect to Bond being reminded of Vesper and never coming to grips with the idea of taking Moneypenny to bed, or atever have you.

Yes? No?

That is why I said make Eva look more plain-Jane looking than she does in CR. It can be done.

[SilencedPPK]

It's an interesting thought, Doctor Shatterhand. But I think the idea is way too out there, even for a Bond film. I think that trying to "rewrite" Moneypenny would be really confusing for the viewer.

[Doctor Shatterhand]

Ah, can't wait for the media to run away with this website.

[English Agent]

I saw Casino Royale for the 7th and final time at the theatre last night and I was wondering something along similar (but not THAT similar) line.

Eva Green could make an appearence in a future CraigBond BUT as a totally new character. As I watched her in the Dinner Jackets scene, I thought "if Maude Adams was brought back..."

I mean, it's not without precident in the history of the Eon films for actors to come back. Charlie Grey and Joe Don, for instance.

Right?

Doctor Shatterhand, I think you have an interesting idea...But the wrong actress for the part.

How about casting an actress that has a very strong physical/facial resemblence to Eva Green to play a future Moneypenny...It would certainly account for what you were alluding to with respect to Bond being reminded of Vesper and never coming to grips with the idea of taking Moneypenny to bed, or atever have you.

Yes? No?

Yes, actors have come back to play different roles but there was usually a few years gap,
plus their first role was always the minor part in comparison to their next role, hence there
was no lasting association with that actor to a particular character.

ps: Mr Rarity, well done for your 7th viewing of CR. My viewing list will be updated at the end of this month.

Edited by English Agent, 10 February 2007 - 08:57 PM.

[Doctor Shatterhand]

It's an interesting thought, Doctor Shatterhand. But I think the idea is way too out there, even for a Bond film. I think that trying to "rewrite" Moneypenny would be really confusing for the viewer.

How can this be a rewrite? Craig has shown how cold his Bond can be to those around him. Picture him meeting Moneypenny for the first time and being startled to the incredible resemblance. Then try to imagine Moneypenny hoping Bond would notice her. The relationship would build over time to what we know it is, but the introduction could be very uncomfortable for OO7.

[JCRendle]

Ah, can't wait for the media to run away with this website.

Well, if made, you know it would be better looking, run and designed than a certain site whom I wont give the pleasure of naming.

When we get a new Moneypenny, I see her with quite a chrisp accent, no offense to Eva, great job of playing a Brit, but her accent wasn't "Moneypenny" to me.

[Doctor Shatterhand]

Yes, actors have come back to play different roles but there was usually a few years gap,
plus their first role was always the minor part in comparison to their next role, hence there
was no lasting association with that actor to a particular character.

But, my idea is supposed to be a minor storyline. Not that the actress is playing a different part, but that the relationship has never been on fire between Bond and Moneypenny. Why not? Bond has gone to bed with just about any girl in the films, but not Moneypenny. Why? This may be a good time to explain it.

[HildebrandRarity]

Doctor Shatterhand, I think you have an interesting idea...But the wrong actress for the part.

How about casting an actress that has a very strong physical/facial resemblence to Eva Green to play a future Moneypenny...It would certainly account for what you were alluding to with respect to Bond being reminded of Vesper and never coming to grips with the idea of taking Moneypenny to bed, or atever have you.

Yes? No?

That is why I said make Eva look more plain-Jane looking than she does in CR. It can be done.

Ya...but, sir, what about the costs?

Eon don't really like paying up for actors except in very limited circumstances (DAF, last two or three Moores, and for PB and HB in DAD).

Would'nt it be cheaper from Eon's point of view to buy similar looking talent for a very minor part? I suspect CR has indicated to them that they need to spend the money on script/writing/dialogue and on real stunt work and that actors are very replaceable...they saved a huge chunk on the budget from BP's $18-20 million to Daniel's $3 or 4 or 5 million.

I think Eon are financially savvy and won't cast Eva Green unless it's a major Bond Girl role.

But I respect your opinion, DS...However I value my own more.

;-)

Edited by HildebrandRarity, 10 February 2007 - 09:10 PM.

[Doctor Shatterhand]

When we get a new Moneypenny, I see her with quite a chrisp accent, no offense to Eva, great job of playing a Brit, but her accent wasn't "Moneypenny" to me.

It's called acting. Personally I thought her accent was fine.

[HildebrandRarity]

ps: Mr Rarity, well done for your 7th viewing of CR. My viewing list will be updated at the end of this month.

I would'nt go banco on an eight...

:-)

[SilencedPPK]

It's an interesting thought, Doctor Shatterhand. But I think the idea is way too out there, even for a Bond film. I think that trying to "rewrite" Moneypenny would be really confusing for the viewer.

How can this be a rewrite? Craig has shown how cold his Bond can be to those around him. Picture him meeting Moneypenny for the first time and being startled to the incredible resemblance. Then try to imagine Moneypenny hoping Bond would notice her. The relationship would build over time to what we know it is, but the introduction could be very uncomfortable for OO7.

I still don't think it would make sense. In my opinion, it is not a good idea for Craig's Bond.

[Doctor Shatterhand]

Ya...but, sir, what about the cost's?

Eon don't really like paying up for actors except in very limited circumstances (DAF, last two or three Moore's, and for PB and HB in DAD).

Would'nt it be cheaper from Eon's point of view to buy similar looking talent for a very minor part? I suspect CR has indicated to them that they need to spend the money on script/writing/dialogue and on real stunt work and that actors are very replaceable...they saved a huge chunk on the budget from BP's $18-20 million to Daniel's $3 or 4 or 5 million.

I think Eon are financially savvy and won't cast Eva Green unless it's a major Bond Girl role.

But I respect your opinion, DS...However I value my own more.

;-)

Perhaps, but Eva is not exactly making 10 or 20 million dollars a movie like Halle Berry is at the moment. I would imagine that Eva is still low enough for them to afford.

[JCRendle]

Bond has gone to bed with just about any girl in the films, but not Moneypenny. Why?

My way of explaining it to myself, I've asked myself this in the past, is that she is M's secretary. Yes Bond has bedded many women, but how many of them is he likely to see again? Moneypenny, after he's bedded her, will be seen every time M calls him to his office for a mission/official talk.

When we get a new Moneypenny, I see her with quite a chrisp accent, no offense to Eva, great job of playing a Brit, but her accent wasn't "Moneypenny" to me.

It's called acting. Personally I thought her accent was fine.

So do I, as I said, she did a great job of playing a Brit. But a different Brit accent than the one I see Moneypenny using (except I can't place a region).

[HildebrandRarity]

Ya...but, sir, what about the cost's?

Eon don't really like paying up for actors except in very limited circumstances (DAF, last two or three Moore's, and for PB and HB in DAD).

Would'nt it be cheaper from Eon's point of view to buy similar looking talent for a very minor part? I suspect CR has indicated to them that they need to spend the money on script/writing/dialogue and on real stunt work and that actors are very replaceable...they saved a huge chunk on the budget from BP's $18-20 million to Daniel's $3 or 4 or 5 million.

I think Eon are financially savvy and won't cast Eva Green unless it's a major Bond Girl role.

But I respect your opinion, DS...However I value my own more.

;-)

Perhaps, but Eva is not exactly making 10 or 20 million dollars a movie like Halle Berry is at the moment. I would imagine that Eva is still low enough for them to afford.

Perhaps, Halle got $4 million for DAD because of the buzz surrounding a potential nomination for an academy.

What is Dame Judy getting for Bond? What is Eva getting for Dark Materials? I suppose she might be cheap enough...but I think Eva might start getting north of $2 million in bigger budget films and I don't think Eon will be spending even $1 million for Moneypenny given Craig will likely only get 5 or 6 (i'm perhaps wrong...he might get more...who knows what the Oct '05 contract stated.)

Anyway...IF Eva agreed to a nominal fee for Moneypenny (which, for a few moments of film she *might* agree) it might be possible...but you have the knowledge that she's 'picky' when it comes to roles...so who know's IF she even would accept.

Anyway, anyway...It's an interesting concept.