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[JimmyBond]

I posted this thread in the Martin Campbell discussion, but I feel it's good enough to stand on it's own:

Here's an unlikely name: Guillermo del Toro. He's a self proffessed geek, and a very good director. His recent film: Pan's Labryinth has a great story and is an extremely beautiful film, he also turned Blade II into a gothic action adventure film, showing he can do drama as well as action. He does go for excessive gore, but I'm sure he could tone it down if put on a Bond film.

Though Pan's Labryinth wins any Oscars, he might not want to do Bond.

[Harmsway]

Umm... interesting suggestion. PAN'S LABYRINTH was a masterpiece on all levels, but the man hasn't exactly displayed such talent in his English-language films. HELLBOY was okay but deeeeeeeeply flawed, BLADE II was awful and MIMIC deserves a giant "meh."

I also venture he's not the sort of director who'd handle EON's managing style very well. He'd probably have a very specific vision he'd want to bring to Bond, and wouldn't want to do something in the vein of the previously established CASINO ROYALE.

Furthermore, his plate is too full. Coming up, he has AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS, a new take on Tarzan, and HELLBOY 2: THE GOLDEN ARMY.

[MR. BOND 93]

I agree with Harmsway, he is probably too busy.

[DaveBond21]

Interesting idea - but does anyone else think that we would end up with a scene, in which Bond fights the ghosts of his parents, in a misty underground Spanish bunker?

[Mister Asterix]

...BLADE II was awful...

Blade II was fine. It just lacked humanity. Now, Blade: Trinity aka Blade and his Amazing Buddies that was major lame.

[dinovelvet]

...BLADE II was awful...

Blade II was fine. It just lacked humanity. Now, Blade: Trinity aka Blade and his Amazing Buddies that was major lame.

Blade II featured some truly terrible CGI though, and the action scenes weren't that hot. I don't think del Toro is right for Bond, visual flair isn't what is needed for the series.

[Harmsway]

...BLADE II was awful...

Blade II was fine. It just lacked humanity. Now, Blade: Trinity aka Blade and his Amazing Buddies that was major lame.

Comparing those two movies is comparing "crappy" to "crappier." I dislike them both.

[JimmyBond]

I think Blade II is the best film of the series (ok, so that's not too hard). What it lacks in script (and shoddy CGI) it more than makes up for with style, this is just a fun movie. One of my favorite cheesiest moments is in this film: When Whistler tosses Blade his sunglasses, that scene was made for geeks who love cheese.

Admittingly, this is the only English language film I've seen of del Toro's, but based on this and Pan's Labryinth I think we could end up with a really fun Bond film.

[Harmsway]

Personally, I just think Del Toro has a far too distinctive personal "fingerprint" on his films. If you watch it, you'll see what I mean - they share a sort of visual vocabulary. And the visual vocabulary he uses is entirely inappropriate for Bond (Bond should avoid "fingerprint" directors at all costs).

And Jimmy, you mention cheese - Del Toro has a taste for it in his popcorn films, and I'd hate to see cheese brought into the Bond franchise. The Bond franchise just got classy, so let's leave it that way.

[JimmyBond]

Personally, I just think Del Toro has a far too distinctive personal "fingerprint" on his films. If you watch it, you'll see what I mean - they share a sort of visual vocabulary. And the visual vocabulary he uses is entirely inappropriate for Bond (Bond should avoid "fingerprint" directors at all costs).

I won't disagree with you here, but I also think (thanks to his being a geek) that he'd work to put out a Bond film that is not radically different from the others. Plus, if you notice in Pan's Labryinth, the "real" scenes feel extremely real, and I think this is the direction Bond should be going in now, Casino Royale was the transition, now let's go all the way.

And Jimmy, you mention cheese - Del Toro has a taste for it in his popcorn films, and I'd hate to see cheese brought into the Bond franchise. The Bond franchise just got classy, so let's leave it that way.

As I said above, I think he'd do his best to make a Bond film based on the tone of the script. Blade II was a cheesy film, that's why he directed it thusly.

[Harmsway]

Personally, I just think Del Toro has a far too distinctive personal "fingerprint" on his films. If you watch it, you'll see what I mean - they share a sort of visual vocabulary. And the visual vocabulary he uses is entirely inappropriate for Bond (Bond should avoid "fingerprint" directors at all costs).

I won't disagree with you here, but I also think (thanks to his being a geek) that he'd work to put out a Bond film that is not radically different from the others.

Actually, I'm very familiar with Del Toro, and he's not the kind of geek to do other people's approaches to material. He does things his way, and will wait forever until they can be done that way. He's quite possessive. He's not a Bond director who'd be willing to merge with the others. He'd want to do HIS Bond - he makes Del Toro films, not other people's kind of films.

Plus, if you notice in Pan's Labryinth, the "real" scenes feel extremely real, and I think this is the direction Bond should be going in now, Casino Royale was the transition, now let's go all the way.

I thought CASINO ROYALE struck the right balance. I don't really want it going more real.

And Jimmy, you mention cheese - Del Toro has a taste for it in his popcorn films, and I'd hate to see cheese brought into the Bond franchise. The Bond franchise just got classy, so let's leave it that way.

As I said above, I think he'd do his best to make a Bond film based on the tone of the script. Blade II was a cheesy film, that's why he directed it thusly.

He has yet to show anything in his filmography that makes me think he'd be good on a Bond film.

[RazorBlade]

No one has mentioned THE DEVIL'S BACKBONE which was an excellent film. Or KRONOS.

In theory he could make a brillant bond film. What's wrong with visual flair in a visual medium? And having Bond in a basement fighting the ghosts of his parents would be cool. But reality sets in and we know reasonably well it won't happen.

On the other hand, Never Say Never Again.