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[DaveBond21]

I apologise if I missed something obvious, but do we know what secrets Dryden was selling, and to whom?

And was the hat he was wearing at the beginning of the PTS a gift from one of his customers?

Thanks.

[Navy007Fan]

Don't remember any mention of his customer, but he could have been selling secrets to Mr. White's organization. That would be a neat tie in!

[JimmyBond]

Don't remember any mention of his customer, but he could have been selling secrets to Mr. White's organization. That would be a neat tie in!

It would be too neat. Not everything needs to be connected somehow.

[Righty007]

Dryden: How did he die?

Bond: Your contact?

Doesn't this imply that Dryden was selling secrets to the guy in the bathroom?

[Vauxhall]

I assumed that Fisher was simply one of Dryden's minions. Perhaps it may suggest that they were selling secrets to Pakistan, seeing as though that's where Fisher was based.

[DaveBond21]

Pakistan would make sense, as would Iran.


I like to think it was unconnected to the rest of the movie - the first PTS to do this since Octopussy.

[DamnCoffee]

What about TLD?

[Stephenson]

The PTS in TLD sets up the whole "Russian" plot to kill British spies. That's why Bond finds the note clipped to the rope.

[Howland]

Hello all,

Long time reader, but new poster. This is not a direct answer to the question, but actually I am writing a scenario for the James Bond Roleplaying Game, which would act as a prequel for Casino Royale and the story would explain who Dryden is selling secret to. At the end of the game session (by the time I will play it CR will be out in DVD), I will show the players the pre-credit sequence of CR as a conclusion.

The story involves old villains of the Bond Legacy (in this case Renard). Since it's a reboot, they are all available. Hope my story won't be contradictory to Bond 22.

Anyway, I'm positive that the man Bond kills in the Bathroom is the man Dryden sells secret to (or a henchman of the customer), but not a henchman of Dryden

OK, maybe this post wasn't that interesting...

[Vauxhall]

Would anyone be interested in seeing the issue of who Dryden sold the secrets to (and the significance of them) reappearing in a future Bond movie? It would be a nice bit of continuity within the rebooted franchise.

[Judo chop]

Would anyone be interested in seeing the issue of who Dryden sold the secrets to (and the significance of them) reappearing in a future Bond movie? It would be a nice bit of continuity within the rebooted franchise.

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[ambrosia]

Hello all,

Long time reader, but new poster. This is not a direct answer to the question, but actually I am writing a scenario for the James Bond Roleplaying Game, which would act as a prequel for Casino Royale and the story would explain who Dryden is selling secret to. At the end of the game session (by the time I will play it CR will be out in DVD), I will show the players the pre-credit sequence of CR as a conclusion.

The story involves old villains of the Bond Legacy (in this case Renard). Since it's a reboot, they are all available. Hope my story won't be contradictory to Bond 22.

Anyway, I'm positive that the man Bond kills in the Bathroom is the man Dryden sells secret to (or a henchman of the customer), but not a henchman of Dryden

OK, maybe this post wasn't that interesting...

Doesn't the dialogue allude to Dryden selling secrets to the bathroom victim?

[Icephoenix]

Dryden has been seling secrets to his contact in Pakistan - Fisher. It is most likely Fisher is just the middle man and just working for a high power - whether it be a criminal organisation or a government we don't know.

[Howland]

Dryden has been seling secrets to his contact in Pakistan - Fisher. It is most likely Fisher is just the middle man and just working for a high power - whether it be a criminal organisation or a government we don't know.

Did I miss something in the movie ? The name, I guess was in the credits, but how do you guys know he comes from Pakistan ?

[Icephoenix]

The script has the full uncut sequence where Bond tracks down Fisher to a cricket match in Pakistan. It was originally shot at Eton I believe, but was cut from the final film.

[DaveBond21]

The script has the full uncut sequence where Bond tracks down Fisher to a cricket match in Pakistan. It was originally shot at Eton I believe, but was cut from the final film.

So that would be a potential deleted scene on the DVD?

[JimmyBond]

The script has the full uncut sequence where Bond tracks down Fisher to a cricket match in Pakistan. It was originally shot at Eton I believe, but was cut from the final film.

So that would be a potential deleted scene on the DVD?

If they had deleted scenes on the DVD, I think it's confirmed there will be none. On the initial release that is.

[Byron]

[quote name='DaveBond21' date='24 January 2007 - 05:26' post='692250']
Pakistan would make sense, as would Iran.


I agree, maybe also the Taliban or Al Quada.

Let's remember that the UK has armed forces in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

Dryden may have been selling British military secrets to any group fighting them.

I also wonder about that split second flash as Dryden is shot. It looks like a photo of his family but not 100% sure. What would be the purpose of this - to show that he is a family man?

[DavidSomerset]

Would anyone be interested in seeing the issue of who Dryden sold the secrets to (and the significance of them) reappearing in a future Bond movie? It would be a nice bit of continuity within the rebooted franchise.

99.9% of the people who saw CR would not know who Dryden was. Except that he was the old bald guy whom 007 shot to get his licence. So no chance of that happening.

[Vauxhall]

I also wonder about that split second flash as Dryden is shot. It looks like a photo of his family but not 100% sure. What would be the purpose of this - to show that he is a family man?

I expect so, yes. Probably just a brief detail included to show the fact that behind every person that Bond kills there is a family who loses someone.

[DaveBond21]

I also wonder about that split second flash as Dryden is shot. It looks like a photo of his family but not 100% sure. What would be the purpose of this - to show that he is a family man?

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I expect so, yes. Probably just a brief detail included to show the fact that behind every person that Bond kills there is a family who loses someone.

Well, in that case, it's just a blatant rip-off of Austin Powers, when they show the henchman's family!!!

[Mister Asterix]

Hello all,

Long time reader, but new poster. This is not a direct answer to the question, but actually I am writing a scenario for the James Bond Roleplaying Game, which would act as a prequel for Casino Royale and the story would explain who Dryden is selling secret to. At the end of the game session (by the time I will play it CR will be out in DVD), I will show the players the pre-credit sequence of CR as a conclusion.

The story involves old villains of the Bond Legacy (in this case Renard). Since it's a reboot, they are all available. Hope my story won't be contradictory to Bond 22.

Anyway, I'm positive that the man Bond kills in the Bathroom is the man Dryden sells secret to (or a henchman of the customer), but not a henchman of Dryden

OK, maybe this post wasn't that interesting...

Very cool, Howland. I was just given a copy of the game a couple weeks ago. If I ever can get my old group together to play it I might just need to contact you.

And welcome to CBn.

Well, in that case, it's just a blatant rip-off of Austin Powers, when they show the henchman's family!!!

Yeah, because just how few people in the world have families.

[DaveBond21]

Well, in that case, it's just a blatant rip-off of Austin Powers, when they show the henchman's family!!!


Yeah, because just how few people in the world have families.

Yeah!

It's not even the first time they've ripped off Austin Powers - look how they modelled Blofeld on Dr Evil.

[Humphrey Bogart]

Here's my theory:

Dryden is selling secrets to someone in Pakistan. Those secrets were sent through Fisher, and Fisher has to deliver them. Deliver to who? It maybe Al-Qaeda, Taliban, or Mr.White's Organization.

Wait? Mr.White? Yup. You see, when M was looking at her computer Bond is checking through, M said "that slimey bugger" or something like that when Le Chiffre face pops up. Perhaps that M knows Le Chiffre secretly ever since before Bahamas? Perhaps that's the evidence that Dryden was selling secrets to Mr.White's Organization. Let's just wait till Bond 22 comes.

[00Twelve]

Dryden's contact appeared to be either Arabic or Eastern European, at least (and they werein Prague), so I agree that he was probably selling secrets to Middle Eastern governments, groups, or possibly Russia.

[bill007]

Ok. Dryden is busted for selling secrets. We are led to assume he is passing these secrets through his contact in Pakistan, Fisher. But what kind of secrets would a Station Chief be selling?

If they were troop levels and positions, fair enough, that information would most likely be going to the Middle East. However, if those secrets were something to do with high-level government operations, then that information could presumably be passed beyond a Pakistani Cricket match to...North Korea, Red China, etc.

As for the Dryden - Le Chiffre tie in? If those secrets were being passed on to The Organization......? I must ponder that one for a while.

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott

[DaveBond21]

Maybe it was just an unconnected mission.

[Vauxhall]

Maybe it was just an unconnected mission.

That would be the easy answer...

[Humphrey Bogart]

Let's do a Wold Newton universe theory here:

Dryden was selling secrets to Mr.Bennet(Heroes) who sells secrets to Ravenwood Securities(Jericho) so that they could hire a bunch of dorks to destroy America. Got it?

Here's a more simple explanantion:

Dryden was selling secrets to the JEWSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!

[Mr.Clark]

I thought the fact that they didn't mention the contact's name, nationality nor the content of the "secrets" (it is a bit vague) was because they're completely irrelevant to anything.

Bond needed two kills to get double-oh status. He killed a dirty Section Chief and the contact who was supposed to collect them from the dead drip. Two kills. Double oh status granted.

I don't think there's anything to read into here...

I hope it's not referenced again and that Howland's roleplaying game works well.