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[Iceheart]

does anyone want Bond 22 to not rely on Casino Royale.

the wonderful thing about the james Bond series is that you dont need to have seen the one before to enjoy the movie

i dont mind if a litle bit of storyline is caried over

like in the beginning of DAF - but i dont want B22 to be reliant on CR

what do you guys think???

Iceheart

[sharpshooter]

I am looking forward for Bond 22 to carrying over elements of CR. Continiuing to shape Bond's character arc for one. CR has alluded to a story that just cant go begging. Bring it on, the possibilities are exciting.

[DaveBond21]

I think it will be both - a sequel to the events of CR, but also a standalone, that people can have as their "first Bond movie".

[tdalton]

I'm very much looking forward to it being a sequel. I think that the storyline that they have established with Casino Royale is one that is quite good, and it certainly could go in several very interesting directions in Bond 22. I can't wait to see what they do with it.

[bill007]

Barbara and Michael have 'shaken' things up with CR. I agree with TDalton, that we will get a little of both. Something like:

M: Bond, do you remember the Le Chiffre incident?
Bond: Yes, considerably.
M: Well, we have some new information concerning the organization he worked for....

[tdalton]

Barbara and Michael have 'shaken' things up with CR. I agree with TDalton, that we will get a little of both. Something like:

M: Bond, do you remember the Le Chiffre incident?
Bond: Yes, considerably.
M: Well, we have some new information concerning the organization he worked for....

I can't wait to see what ultimately happens with the Mr. White character. I think that he's quite possibly the most intriguing Bond villain since Blofeld was known to us only by voice. They could go in so many different directions with the Mr. White character and his involvement with his organization or SPECTRE (as has been talked about on these forums), and just how major a character he is in relation to the villains that are operating around him. I simply can't wait to find out where they take that character.

[Special Edition]

Well, they have left it open for a sequel. Who doesn't remember the anticipation between Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolutions.

[neversaynever]

^^^ A joke, right?

[RazorBlade]

Put me down for the duality of a stand alone sequel.

[Zorin Industries]

I imagine EON and the writers will craft a screenplay that will not strictly be CASINO ROYALE AGAIN, but a definite film on its own with its own merits. If it does follow on from ROYALE in any substantial form I cannot see the writers leaving that imaginary section of the audience who haven't seen Craig's debut in the dark for BOND 22.

It will work very well as a film on its own.

[Qwerty]

I'm pretty excited that Bond 22 is going to continue parts of the storyline that Casino Royale has put into motion. I cannot wait to see how it turns out.

[dodge]

I'm pretty excited that Bond 22 is going to continue parts of the storyline that Casino Royale has put into motion. I cannot wait to see how it turns out.

I agree wholeheartedly. And I hope the Dream Team follows the LOTR trilogy in one respect: pick up where the last left off and trust the audience to be up to speed. The first film trusted our intelligence. Let the second do the same and move right along with the magic of this groovy tale.

[Mister Asterix]

[mra]I could go either way. I don

[English Agent]

........i hope Bond 22 continues from CR........
but if not i hope the new film has a great story,
with a decent script.

I really hope the producers don't go back to the
childish humour and laser bearing space satellites
of previous films.

[Agent Carter]

........i hope Bond 22 continues from CR........
but if not i hope the new film has a great story,
with a decent script.

I really hope the producers don't go back to the
childish humour and laser bearing space satellites
of previous films.

Oh do I agree with you. I love Q but am not looking forward to backsliding into the formulaic. Craig as Bond has established that he can take care of business with his own two hands and not laser cigarette watch invisibility missiles.

I also think that the next story should mention a little from CR but should be a stand alone film.

Edited by Agent Carter, 08 January 2007 - 05:00 PM.

[Judo chop]

It

[dodge]

[color="#FFFF00"]Quoting Judo Chop:
Now though, I would be wholeheartedly disappointed if the next installment did not keep a stringent adherence to the storyline and characterizations of Casino Royale. If, all of a sudden, Bond was Bond as if he never were different, and there were no references to his dealings with LeChiffre, no one hitting nerves with mention of Vesper, no following through with the character of Mr. White or the organization behind him

[Judo chop]

[quote name='dodge' post='683622' date='8 January 2007 - 11:30'][color="#FFFF00"]Quoting Judo Chop:
Now though, I would be wholeheartedly disappointed if the next installment did not keep a stringent adherence to the storyline and characterizations of Casino Royale. If, all of a sudden, Bond was Bond as if he never were different, and there were no references to his dealings with LeChiffre, no one hitting nerves with mention of Vesper, no following through with the character of Mr. White or the organization behind him

[Santa]

Yep, I'm with the bisexuals on this one. I want a bit of both.

[Johnboy007]

They've left open some very interesting storylines (Mathis, Algerian Boyfriend, Mr. White) and I would love to see those threads tied up.

[Robbond256]

Ok, now i believe i know what im talkin about so correct me if i'm wrong. I didn't watch all of casino royale but i saw the end [by the way La... wuts his face died a crappy and simple way (a staple gun killed him, you just might as well shoot the dude, come on! EVERY VILLAIN SHOULD DIE A SPECIAL WAY: melt in acid, fly out a window of a plane, have a 600 ton station fall on ya, be carved into a million pieces, have some sort of golden pole crush your tummy, get thrown off the golden gate bridge, set yourself on fire, become dust from an airplane engine, blow up like a balloon or get thrown out of a train, or just plane and simple, GET BLOWN UP!!!) oh and i know we all miss the good old desmond llewelyn but every bond must have gadjets and i think john cleese was a good q] from the card game, and im not sure but the guy that i think was a villin and i'm pretty sure he'll be in bond 22. I don't think it'll be a sequel but it will be a Ernst Blofeld (?) kind of thing! (i mean the guy was in 4 frickin movies)
-Death Ideas Key: Dr. No, Goldfinger, 006, Elliot Carver, Renard, Max Zorin, that License to Kill bad guy, Cortez or something, Colonel Moon/Gustav Graves, Mr. Big, the guy with the wierd hand on Live and Let Die.-

Edited by Robbond256, 12 January 2007 - 11:40 PM.

[Four Aces]

No sequel. I would like it to continue along the lines of the literary Moonraker. With Iran and North Korea trying to go nuclear in today's world, the time is right for a Moonraker missle scenario as per Fleming.

[Turn]

Ok, now i believe i know what im talkin about so correct me if i'm wrong. I didn't watch all of casino royale but i saw the end [by the way La... wuts his face died a crappy and simple way (a staple gun killed him, you just might as well shoot the dude, come on! EVERY VILLAIN SHOULD DIE A SPECIAL WAY: melt in acid, fly out a window of a plane, have a 600 ton station fall on ya, be carved into a million pieces, have some sort of golden pole crush your tummy, get thrown off the golden gate bridge, set yourself on fire, become dust from an airplane engine, blow up like a balloon or get thrown out of a train, or just plane and simple, GET BLOWN UP!!!) oh and i know we all miss the good old desmond llewelyn but every bond must have gadjets and i think john cleese was a good q] from the card game, and im not sure but the guy that i think was a villin and i'm pretty sure he'll be in bond 22. I don't think it'll be a sequel but it will be a Ernst Blofeld (?) kind of thing! (i mean the guy was in 4 frickin movies)
-Death Ideas Key: Dr. No, Goldfinger, 006, Elliot Carver, Renard, Max Zorin, that License to Kill bad guy, Cortez or something, Colonel Moon/Gustav Graves, Mr. Big, the guy with the wierd hand on Live and Let Die.-

Isn't it kind of hard to judge a movie if you haven't seen it all the way through?

For some of us, LeChiffre did die in a special way because this is exactly how the character died in the book and the film version stayed true to that.

[Blonde Bond]

like in the beginning of DAF - but i dont want B22 to be reliant on CR

what do you guys think???

Worst. Idea. Ever.

No, I for one want a direct continuum to CR. Something that DAF should have been after OHMSS.

IMO, it would not be a wise move to ignore cr's story arch at this day and age. Now it's a time of new bond, one that wont forget the wrongdoings he had suffered in the last movie. I'm fine with a stand alone 3rd movie. But not 2nd.

[Nimsworth]

I'd like to think that Bond 22 would work as a standalone film much like The Godfather Part II is. Unlike say Matrix Revolutions where if you hadn't seen the film before it you'd have no clue what the hell was going on.

[Blonde Bond]

There are sequels and there are movies, seperated into two parts, al

[Blabbermouth]

I don't want it to be a straight sequal. I agree with those who say that JB-films should be stand alone films, with only small hints to previuos adventures, just like Fleming did.

I'm still hoping for a true adaptation of Live and Let Die as Bond 22. Even though it follows Casino Royale and Bond wants to deal SMERSH a blow for what they did to him and Vesper I still see it as a non-sequel book.

IMO that is the way it should be as well in the movies.

[Loomis]

No sequel. I would like it to continue along the lines of the literary Moonraker. With Iran and North Korea trying to go nuclear in today's world, the time is right for a Moonraker missle scenario as per Fleming.

But they did that in DIE ANOTHER DAY. I'd prefer BOND 22 to continue with 007's pursuit of relatively "small time" villains, although I do appreciate that the topics of rogue states and nuclear terrorism don't necessarily have to be treated in a zany, OTT kinda way with side orders of gene therapy, invisible cars and diamonds in people's faces.

[Blisster Shoots]

I'm all for that. But the very least I'd expect, and demand, as a Craig fan is that he deal consistently with Bond's unfinished business and show, show, show how this Bond becomes 'the Bond we all know and love.'

which is.....

If you are referring to the Bond of the past 20 films...I hope not. If you are referring to the Bonds of the books, then that's another story.

I for one, believe that Ian Fleming was a creative genius. Every element of his work showed that. Because Casino Royale had so much "Fleming" in it, including the character of James Bond, can anyone really be surprised with the film's success?

Eon should continue down this reboot road. Warner Brothers/Batman franchise have done it with Batman Begins and there is so much anticipation for the sequel "The Dark Knight." Heavy rumor is that Heath Ledger's Joker will not even be wearing white makeup and a purple suit (according to my BF). Like Batman, Bond should follow up on Casino Royale and at the same time continue to make Bond as humanly realistic as possible.

[Mr_Wint]

Maybe they can do something with the White character but otherwise, I want a fresh original plot for Bond 22. No sequel.