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[Agent Carter]

I honestly think that Stacey Sutton was the dumbest. I mean, she was surprised by a blimp.

LOL! Oh man, that's right. One of the biggest and slowest moving objects just pops out of no where and picks her off the ground.

Edited by Agent Carter, 12 January 2007 - 01:46 AM.

[Turn]

While Kara ranks low in my favorite Bond girls (or women, Mr. Tamahori and Mr. Apted), I think people are confusing dumb with innocent considering she's thrown into a world she isn't prepared for.

For instance, some people are ripping her for lowering the cargo bay on the Hercules plane. How many of you would do the same thing if faced with that situation having never flown such a craft before? She's not Holly Goodhead, who just happens to be a NASA-trained pilot, who just happens to also be a CIA agent. Convenient, isn't it?

And somebody was putting her body down as well. Here's a tip: seek out the September 1987 issue of Playboy and then see if you feel the same way.

[Agent 0015]

Kara is one of my favorites because she is innocent and not like a tough bad Agent (Jinx ). She was asked to do the sniper because she thought Koskov loved her. And she belived Bond that he was Koskov friend because he will bring her to him. She calls Koskov to talk to him, and plays tricks to make Bond a KGB agent. And my orchestra teacher told me that you need to be a good player, is just need to know how to play the notes and read them. Didn't Necros go through the door? Not the back hatch, or I must be wrong.

Horrible acting? She's no Kate Blanchet I'll grant you, but surely you can't rank her below:

Jinx
Christmas
XXX
Rosie
Goodnight
Plenty
Sutton
???

Yeah, she is higher alot of them.

She's not Holly Goodhead, who just happens to be a NASA-trained pilot, who just happens to also be a CIA agent. Convenient, isn't it?

And that is very true, I know a couple of people who did lots training to fly a plane.

http://www.ew.com/ew...57446_1,00.html
Most of them are good, but Jinx over XXX

http://www.ew.com/ew...1557891,00.html
Some of my favorites are on here.

Edited by Agent 0015, 14 January 2007 - 07:04 PM.

[Pam Bouvier]

I agree with much 0015 has said. I too liked Kara because she wasn't "in the game", so to speak. Of course she's not wise in the ways of the inteliagence game - she's a artist for God's sake!

Yeah, falling for Yogi wasn't a smart move, but who would have known how poor a choce???

No. I never thought she was stupid. It's nice to see a Bondgirl that is a civilian, just going through life, then getting caught up in the world of Bond.

[Zorin Industries]

God, no!!

Denise Richards / CHRISTMAS DRONES is far worse. KARA MILOVY is a bit dopey, but that is the character which works well and even adds unusual poignancy to THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS and the Bond series. Richards is just a poor actress and an even poorer character in THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH. She was dumped on Eon from a great studio height. The character's not even necessary to the plot. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH would have been a far stronger film had it had the bravado to make ELEKTRA the main girl - whether or not she gets to utter the "Oh James" line as the credits roll.

[PrinceKamalKhan]

Kara is one of my favorites because she is innocent and not like a tough bad Agent (Jinx ). She was asked to do the sniper because she thought Koskov loved her. And she belived Bond that he was Koskov friend because he will bring her to him. She calls Koskov to talk to him, and plays tricks to make Bond a KGB agent. And my orchestra teacher told me that you need to be a good player, is just need to know how to play the notes and read them. Didn't Necros go through the door? Not the back hatch, or I must be wrong.

Agreed. Kara was a believable innocent doing what she thought was correct.

I agree with much 0015 has said. I too liked Kara because she wasn't "in the game", so to speak. Of course she's not wise in the ways of the inteliagence game - she's a artist for God's sake!

Yeah, falling for Yogi wasn't a smart move, but who would have known how poor a choce???

No. I never thought she was stupid. It's nice to see a Bondgirl that is a civilian, just going through life, then getting caught up in the world of Bond.

Exactly. Kara was in this way more like a character in an Alfred Hitchcock or Alfred Hitchcock-type film(think Audrey Hepburn in Stanley Donen's Hitchcock homage Charade), i.e., an innocent tossed by circumstances into the world of espionage and international intrigue than the most typical Bond girl. That's one reason she's unique and one of my favorites.

God, no!!

Denise Richards / CHRISTMAS DRONES is far worse. KARA MILOVY is a bit dopey, but that is the character which works well and even adds unusual poignancy to THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS and the Bond series. Richards is just a poor actress and an even poorer character in THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH. She was dumped on Eon from a great studio height. The character's not even necessary to the plot. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH would have been a far stronger film had it had the bravado to make ELEKTRA the main girl - whether or not she gets to utter the "Oh James" line as the credits roll.

Agreed there also. Looking back at On Her Majesty's Secret Service and now at Casino Royale, The World is not Enough really falls short for trying something more "serious and tragic" in Bond's relationship with a woman but not having the guts to go all the way with it like CR & OHMSS did by having Dr. Christmas Jones along to give Bond a happy ending. In this respect, both Tomorrow Never Dies and Die Another Day are more entertaining Bond films in that they didn't really pretend to be better than they were and didn't failing to deliver what they promised as TWINE did.

[A Kristatos]

"We're free!"
"Kara, we're inside a Russian airbase in the middle of Afghanistan!"

"Yeah, but at least we're together!"

[Odd Job]

She was naive sure, but I wouldn't class her as dumb. Anyway who cares when she is being played by the lovely Maryam D'Abo.

Until next time

I take my hat off to you

Odd Job

[ChronoBreak]

Indeed - Naive, yes. Dumb? I don't think so.

Still, not one of my favorite Bond girls by a long shot - the role is definitely underwritten, even by Bond girl standards.

[LadySylvia]

Man I reckon this chick is the most overlooked for earning the award for dumbest bond chick.
For starters she goes out with the idiot koskov who sets her up to be killed. And then bond tricks her 'yeah I am koskov's friend, i'll take you to him' and she just follows. You can tell there isnt much going on in her head. 'Yeah koskov paid for your dress' she doesnt even question it. Man Bond plays her hard. And bond doesnt get anything.
She calls up her ex and goes back to him only to be betrayed and thrown to rot in gaol with bond.
Then in the end when bond is flying the plane and giving her 'sign language instructions' to drive her buggy up the back of the plane, how long does it take to sink into skull what it is bond is trying to say? When she finally gets it Bond kinda turns back to flying the plane thinking 'what a numbskull'.
And the fight with Necros hanging off the back of the plane wouldnt have happened if she wasnt dumb and opened the back hatch. Then they fall out because of her bad flying. Then when its all over bond goes back into the cockpit to discover she is flying the plane into a mountain... yeah good idea kara...

And her JAAAAAMES!! screaming is more annoying than stacy sutton. At least she was hotter.

If Kara Milovy was that dumb, she would have never realized that Bond had been lying to her since they first met. If anyone was stupid, it would have to be Bond for underestimating her intelligence in the first place. Because he did, she ended up contacting Koskov and Bond ended up in deep sh**. If Bond had the good sense to tell her the truth before leaving Vienna, both of them could have been spared the minor horror they had endured in Afghanistan.

And quite frankly, I find the idea of labeling Kara dumb because she didn't know how to fly a plane rather questionable.

[Stephen Spotswood]

I think Stacy Sutton was worse. However, I did like Tanya Roberts in That 70's Show. I just wish they kept the set colder.

[LadySylvia]

Actually I have a rather low opinion of Honey Ryder and Solitaire . . . simply because they hardly did anything.