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[PrinceKamalKhan]

Was anyone surprised the first time you saw LTK that Lupe Lamora didn't end up dead? Considering how Sanchez treated her and her lover in the pre-title sequence and how the usual Bond villain dealt with a mistress/female employee/wife than betrayed him with Bond, Lupe's "happy ending" with El Presidente definitely seemed different, especially considering how serious LTK was. Anyone else have any similar thoughts?

[moorebond82]

Maybe she did end up dead who knows? Maybe El Presidente was as bad as sanchez. And speaking of sanchez i think he didn't kill her because he was into loyality so he figures if he killed her she wouldn't learn.Maybe he was trying to beat her into loyality?

[Qwerty]

I never really considered it. She never really struck me as a Bond girl that I cared all that much about compared to many of the others in the series.

[moorebond82]

Exactley her character did not interest me at all but the topic got me thinking.

[Pam Bouvier]

Lupe Lamora is now the Evita of our time (see Natalya's story in Fan Fiction).

[DamnCoffee]

I always found her character to be a little boring and uninteresting, but, unlike most Bond girls, i belive she got a happy ending.

[Panavision]

I always found her character to be a little boring and uninteresting, but, unlike most Bond girls, i belive she got a happy ending.

I'm happy to say that she's living with me. We have four Lupys or Lupines

[Blofeld's Cat]

I always found her character to be a little boring and uninteresting, but, unlike most Bond girls, i belive she got a happy ending.

No doubt she ended up with the President's happy ending.

[George Kaplan]

I always found it kind of refreshing that Lupe wasn't killed in LTK; after everything going pear-shaped in the intro with Felix's wedding it was a nice change that the people who help Bond in this story (Lupe, Q, Pam) all get through the story in the end. Nobody got "Sir Godfrey Tibbett"-ed.

[Stephen Spotswood]

Actually she bored me. Neither her, nor the other actress, Carrie Lowell, could even act. And she was among the first I noticed to be preachy about the violence, even though she was little more than a whore herself.

Even in Casino Royale that had a woman feeling it was all about men playing with their guns. However, they did have an effective scene of Vesper in a shower after Bond killed someone in front of her.

[J.C.D'Arc]

Well, as a whore, maybe she had good reason to be against violence. You know: pimps beating on the girls in their stables, johns beating on hookers...besides which, guys who are shooting each other or getting killed aren't spending any money on whores.

And I've seen Bond girls who couldn't act, but Carey Lowell wasn't one of them.

[Scottlee]

I think she just went off and had a normal life. I don't buy for one second she got killed or even went off and married "El Presidente". That was just one of Bond's jokes.

[Qwerty]

I'm happy to say that she's living with me.

Are you President Hector Lopez?

[JimmyBond]

She travelled to the Outworld and became a Princess.

[DaveBond21]

Some people were bored with her?


Wow, I will happily have her any day.....

[moorebond82]

I often wonder this same question about alot of the bond girls.
Stacy Sutton for example what the hell happened to her after AVTAK?
Not like she had much going for her she lost her job and her goal of getting zorin off her back was now done.Kara from TLD you could tell she fell in love with james what happened to her after she found out it wasn't going to be and that james was just going to move on to the next adventure.

[RazorBlade]

I never thought about it. I hope she is okay as it would be a nice turn if she didn't die or have something nasty happen to her. I will watch the film again and see if anything foreshadows her fate.

[Vauxhall]

The pattern of Bond films would have suggested she would have met her fate at the hands of Sanchez; it is extremely rare for a Bond girl who betrays the main villain to escape unharmed. Guess it was just an interesting anomaly in the movie. Suppose there were already enough deaths without adding another one. Perhaps the writers had run out of imaginative ideas for colourful deaths after using a pressurised container and a cocaine grinder to kill two villains!!

[dee-bee-five]

Actually she bored me. Neither her, nor the other actress, Carrie Lowell, could even act. And she was among the first I noticed to be preachy about the violence, even though she was little more than a whore herself.

Even in Casino Royale that had a woman feeling it was all about men playing with their guns. However, they did have an effective scene of Vesper in a shower after Bond killed someone in front of her.

Well, of course, Honey was actually the first Bond (film) Girl to question Bond's violent streak when he knifes the guy in the swamp.

But I'm rather surprised by the prevailing antipathy towards Lupe and Pam; I've always found them to be two of the most interesting Bond girls from the 1980s. And both actresses gave fine performances for my money. Still, anyone was going to shine in the wake of Tanya ("James, don't leave me!!!") Roberts.

I've seen Bond girls who couldn't act, but Carey Lowell wasn't one of them.

Absolutely.

[Blisster Shoots]

Some people were bored with her?


Wow, I will happily have her any day.....

LOL. Men.....

[J.C.D'Arc]

LOL. Men.....

Yes. We heterosexual men can be like that sometimes. You disapprove?

[Turn]

I think they could've done something with the Lupe character to make her more mysterious. She's so shallow. She's basically in the same situation as Andrea Anders in TMWTGG, but other than her annoying Sanchez, we really don't get anything that makes the character sympathetic or that Bond even really needs her. She isn't the damsal in distress, just a basic golddigger.

Had she shown some darker side that would have had her playing Bond and Sanchez against each other rather than have her fall immediately for Bond it may have worked better. It was like the creative team felt forced to give Bond more than one woman after being a one-woman man in TLD. Give her some personality. Her "I love James so much" line is as bad as anything Stacey Sutton or Christmas Jones said.

[PrinceKamalKhan]

I always found it kind of refreshing that Lupe wasn't killed in LTK; after everything going pear-shaped in the intro with Felix's wedding it was a nice change that the people who help Bond in this story (Lupe, Q, Pam) all get through the story in the end. Nobody got "Sir Godfrey Tibbett"-ed.

The pattern of Bond films would have suggested she would have met her fate at the hands of Sanchez; it is extremely rare for a Bond girl who betrays the main villain to escape unharmed. Guess it was just an interesting anomaly in the movie. Suppose there were already enough deaths without adding another one. Perhaps the writers had run out of imaginative ideas for colourful deaths after using a pressurised container and a cocaine grinder to kill two villains!!

In retrospect, I figure both of your answers were correct. After all the deaths and serious nature of the film, they probably didn't want to kill off another character, especially another female one after what happened to Della. Hence we got the sappy ending where Bond has to pick between his 2 ladies.

I often wonder this same question about alot of the bond girls.
Stacy Sutton for example what the hell happened to her after AVTAK?
Not like she had much going for her she lost her job and her goal of getting zorin off her back was now done.Kara from TLD you could tell she fell in love with james what happened to her after she found out it wasn't going to be and that james was just going to move on to the next adventure.

I remember my sister wondering what would happen to Kara after TLD after we saw it in the theater. I figured she got busy with her world tour and Bond headed to Florida for his buddy Leiter's wedding.

I think they could've done something with the Lupe character to make her more mysterious. She's so shallow. She's basically in the same situation as Andrea Anders in TMWTGG, but other than her annoying Sanchez, we really don't get anything that makes the character sympathetic or that Bond even really needs her. She isn't the damsal in distress, just a basic golddigger.

Had she shown some darker side that would have had her playing Bond and Sanchez against each other rather than have her fall immediately for Bond it may have worked better. It was like the creative team felt forced to give Bond more than one woman after being a one-woman man in TLD. Give her some personality. Her "I love James so much" line is as bad as anything Stacey Sutton or Christmas Jones said.

I think Lupe should have been the main girl in the film. I'd like to see another situation of the woman under the villain's power(like Domino or Solitaire) teaming up with Bond to vanquish the villain again during Craig's tenure. But as you stated, they wanted Bond the ladies' man to return after Dalton's one-woman turn in TLD hence the appearance of both a Domino/Andrea Anders-type damsel-in-distress in Lupe and the woman agent from a rival intelligency agency of the Aki/Triple X/Dr. Goodhead type in Pam.

[Forward Look]

I'm happy to say that she's living with me.

Are you President Hector Lopez?

Nah, that's actor Benjamin Bratt, real-life husband of Talisa Soto, who played Lupe in LTK.

[PrinceKamalKhan]

I like the scenario Loomis came up for Miss Lamora in his treatment for a 1991 version of Colonel Sun starring Dalton-

"our hero

[Blofeld's Cat]

I think its unaminous that she married the slimy lizard.

And perhaps kept the cameleon as a pet as well.

[Forward Look]

I think its unaminous that she married the slimy lizard.

And perhaps kept the cameleon as a pet as well.

"Don't you know iguanas are a girl's best friend?"
-- Talisa Soto as Lupe Lamora, LTK --