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[Dr. Noah]

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Daniel Craig Eager To Make 'Bond 22' Better Than Casino Royale

_{'...we've got the make the next one better.'}

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[Qwerty]

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Daniel Craig Eager To Make 'Bond 22' Better Than Casino Royale

_{'...we've got the make the next one better.'}

[MR. BOND 93]

Man, I don't know if it's possible to top your own performance if you did THAT good.

[crheath]

Man, I don't know if it's possible to top your own performance if you did THAT good.

If anyone can do it, he can...

[Jack Spang]

It's important to keep him just as human. Just because he is more experienced doesn't mean he still can't make the odd mistake and still be bothered by killing. He should make atleast one mistake during the course of the film. He should also have a little less humour than he did in Casino Royale. I think they went a little over the top in this department.

They need more of a personal touch too. Show Bond waking up in his flat with a politician

Edited by Jack Spang, 07 December 2006 - 04:37 AM.

[Cody]

we've got the make the next one better.

If they can accomplish that, I will be one blissfully happy fan in the theatre.

[booyeah_]

I admire Craig's professionalism. Hopefully, he will make Bond 22 > Casino Royale(tough task though)

[JimmyBond]

[quote name='Jack Spang' post='664471' date='6 December 2006 - 22:34']

They need more of a personal touch too. Show Bond waking up in his flat with a politician

[lafemmefantome]

I think the key word is professionalism. There's a drive in him to make this next film the best and possibly better. I kind of figured out already that the bar was set high. So you can imagine the stakes for next time along with the expectations.

For me though, just match this film and I will have something to look forward to for the holidays.

I would like to still continue to see him develop as a character. He should make some mistakes but perhaps less (As previously mentioned). I would be curious to see his flat and maybe a glimpse into the non-spy world of James Bond.

lafemmefantome

[crheath]

I may be wrong, but I don't recall any of the previous actors saying something like this. Maybe it's because of the lack of internet in the 60's and 70's, but Connery and Moore never seemed to have this kind of enthusiasm for the series' future that Craig has.

[Auric64]

It`s great that Craig wants to make sure that Bond 22 tops Casino Royale, but I wonder if that will be possible.

I`ve no doubt that Craig will turn in another superb performance, but I just wonder what type of story they will use, which COULD top CR.

As one poster here has already said in another thread, Craig was helped enormously by the fact that the script was based on the Casino Royale novel. The plot of the novel was there, and the scriptwriters only had to conjure up an additional 50 odd minutes of new material, which slotted in fairly well with the rest of the Fleming plot.

Unless they use elements of other Fleming material, which haven`t already been used, (snippets of which were used in Octopussy, Daylights and LTK) Bond 22 could turn out to be another Brosnan type script, i.e. nothing used from the Fleming novels and a completely new made up plot.

We know Purvis and Wade are currently working on Bond 22, and there have been many posters on here decrying their work on both TWINE and DAD, so it`s natural for them to worry as to what type of Bond film they are going to write for us, (another DAD?) especially as there are many of us on this forum who don`t know how much they contributed to the CR script, or how much Haggis reworked it.

I was personally happy with their scripts for both TWINE and DAD, in a scriptwriting/dialogue way, (if not necessarily a plot way) but unless they are able to use SOME of the left over elements of Fleming`s novels which haven`t yet been used, (and there are some bits) I just wonder if Purvis and Wade can come up with a Flemingesque type plot of their own, (as Maibaum and Wilson did with Daylights) which could at least echo what most of us were so happy with, in Casino Royale.

Anyone else feel the same?

Best

Andy

Edited by Auric64, 07 December 2006 - 09:17 AM.

[RazorBlade]

we've got the make the next one better.

If they can accomplish that, I will be one blissfully happy fan in the theatre.

As will I. I am confident that Eon and team will make it even better.

[stamper]

I think there is with Purvis and Wade something people missed, they are pretty good secretaries to the producers suggestions, and can put down on paper whatever comes out of the script meetings, then rip the pages when there are changes, without ego problems, which is hard to find in this world of "auteur" scriptwriters.

That's the reason they stay and will probably stay : they are easy to work with, and probably cheap. Once they are done, their final script is usually considered unpolished, and given to more skilled writers to be doctored with a fresh view, and they finally put in the last touch when it comes back. We blame them for x-mas jokes, but we might as well blame Broccoli and Wilson : they agree to every dot of the Bond scripts, and sometimes comes up with one liners themselves.

Craig story is incredible, because he was slammed and insulted in the press before filming even began. He had nowhere to go but up. I'm sure some Fleming tidbits will be picked up for the next one. I just reread Moonraker, and I had totally forgotten there was a card game very much like the one in CR at the beginning, with M saying "You're the best player in the service".

[Cody]

I'm sure some Fleming tidbits will be picked up for the next one. I just reread Moonraker, and I had totally forgotten there was a card game very much like the one in CR at the beginning, with M saying "You're the best player in the service".

That's a sequence/introduction to the villain that I'd really like to see done in one of the films at some point. But after all the cards in CR, I think B22 might be too soon to use it.

[SecretAgentFan]

Now - was it just a rumor that P/W won

[stamper]

Anyone thinks, if they are supposed to begin Bond 22 with the end of Bond 21, that the scene is already shot and done ?

It would make sense, a bit like they did with OHMSS, when the shot the teaser of DAF (but finally put it at the end of OHMSS because Laz had quit by then).

[Auric64]

Anyone thinks, if they are supposed to begin Bond 22 with the end of Bond 21, that the scene is already shot and done ?

It would make sense, a bit like they did with OHMSS, when the shot the teaser of DAF (but finally put it at the end of OHMSS because Laz had quit by then).

If the end scene in CR is carried on into the next film, as shot by Campbell, he will have to get a screen credit for directing it. As it seems unlikely that Campbell will direct Bond 22, it would be pointless giving him a screen credit just for an extended scene.

Far easier to shoot the extension of that scene with the same actors in the same location, (especially if Mr. White doesn`t die straight away) with the new director, thus only necessitating one directional screen credit.

However, if Campbell DOES direct Bond 22, then maybe it would have made sense to have shot an extension of the scene, for the inclusion in that film.

Best

Andy

[RazorBlade]

Anyone thinks, if they are supposed to begin Bond 22 with the end of Bond 21, that the scene is already shot and done ?

It would make sense, a bit like they did with OHMSS, when the shot the teaser of DAF (but finally put it at the end of OHMSS because Laz had quit by then).

I don't know if the scene is shot already but it will be interesting to find out what happens next. Good point about P/W being easy to work with- don't know about cheap- and that's why they will be around for awhile. Interesting to see if they are around.

[Emma]

[quote name='Jack Spang' post='664471' date='7 December 2006 - 04:34']
It's important to keep him just as human. Just because he is more experienced doesn't mean he still can't make the odd mistake and still be bothered by killing. He should make atleast one mistake during the course of the film. He should also have a little less humour than he did in Casino Royale. I think they went a little over the top in this department.

They need more of a personal touch too. Show Bond waking up in his flat with a politician

[00Twelve]

Amen.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

I trust you Daniel.


And good ideas Jack Spang, I definitely agree that he should end with a girl in Bond 22...but Moonraker had such a fantastic ending it'd be a shame not to use it.

I just wonder how audiences would react to that a second time (Bond not getting the girl)...it shouldn't be a pattern, and wouldn't be but I don't think the general populace would know that.

[DaveBond21]

I just wonder how audiences would react to that a second time (Bond not getting the girl)...it shouldn't be a pattern, and wouldn't be but I don't think the general populace would know that.

I agree. I think he should "get the girl" in the next one, and there should be about 3 Bond girls that he actually sleeps with. Let's see him be like Bond in FRWL and AVTAK (he beds 4 women in each!!!).

[Russ]

I'd go with a gritty scene right at the beginning. CR got the ball rolling brilliantly with the toilet fight and the execution. A scene like this needs to open the film again to give the film the same realism that has earned it so much praise from critics. Perhaps Bond could interorgate Mr. White, perhaps by poking and prodding the bullet in his leg... Its all a bit Jack Bauer, but i think it would set the tone for the film they need to make.

[Double-0-Seven]

It will be tough to top Casino Royale, but I think they can do it.

[Qwerty]

I'd go with a gritty scene right at the beginning. CR got the ball rolling brilliantly with the toilet fight and the execution. A scene like this needs to open the film again to give the film the same realism that has earned it so much praise from critics. Perhaps Bond could interorgate Mr. White, perhaps by poking and prodding the bullet in his leg... Its all a bit Jack Bauer, but i think it would set the tone for the film they need to make.

Welcome to the CommanderBond.net Forums, Russ.

[Jack Spang]

Anyone thinks, if they are supposed to begin Bond 22 with the end of Bond 21, that the scene is already shot and done ?

It would make sense, a bit like they did with OHMSS, when the shot the teaser of DAF (but finally put it at the end of OHMSS because Laz had quit by then).

If the end scene in CR is carried on into the next film, as shot by Campbell, he will have to get a screen credit for directing it. As it seems unlikely that Campbell will direct Bond 22, it would be pointless giving him a screen credit just for an extended scene.

Far easier to shoot the extension of that scene with the same actors in the same location, (especially if Mr. White doesn`t die straight away) with the new director, thus only necessitating one directional screen credit.

However, if Campbell DOES direct Bond 22, then maybe it would have made sense to have shot an extension of the scene, for the inclusion in that film.

Best

Andy

I just can't understand why Eon wouldn't want Campbell back after how well Royale has done. It's good to have continuity in directing styles too. I really hope it does lead directly on from where Royale left off at that medieval villa.

Why do Eon insist on having different directors for each Bond picture post the Dalton era? I think they