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[Mr Woodpigeon]

Anyone else feel a little sorry for Le Chiffre?

I know he was in the wrong business, sorting out money for all kinds of lunatics, but to me he was just a financer/accountant up to his neck in . He made one bad investment, and the real villains of the piece come after him, threaten his girlfriend, rough him up, etc.

In the book, I didn

[MarcAngeDraco]

Feel sorry for someone supporting terrorism, attempting to carry off his own terrorist plot to make himself extra money, etc...

No I didn't, not one little bit...

[Mr Woodpigeon]

I know he was in the wrong business, but there was just something there in the performance that made me feel just a little for the guy.

It was a very human performance.

[capungo]

Well, it was certainly a different sort of role for the villain. We weren't watching a Bond villain trying to take over the world, but trying to keep himself from being assassinated. Essentially, we were watching a tragic villain(to go with our newly tragic hero?). The second he lost the card game, despite what he may have said to Bond, he knew he was a dead man walking. It was a very interesting and unique dynamic for a villain. Did it make him more sympathetic? Sure, as you really have to wonder how much he was regretting the decisions he had made by the end of the movie. Did I really feel bad for him at the end of the movie? Not too much, as he was still a Bond villain, and he was still doing very bad things. Nevertheless, he had some welcome depth to him, that's for sure.

Edited by capungo, 01 December 2006 - 11:45 PM.

[pedroarmendariz]

i don't know if i would feel sorry for a guy who's a baddie at the end of the day, almost drowning his guests when we see him playing poker the first time if they didn't leave in five minutes. i guess i could say that it would suck to be him because he really had a bad month. he got a new client and almost made money the usual way until our guy got involve. when le chiffre tried to fall back on his poker skills to get him out, bond was back to stop him. sucks to have been le chiffre. that's what you get for hurting a man's purse.

[Mr Woodpigeon]

Well, it was certainly a different sort of role for the villain. We weren't watching a Bond villain trying to take over the world, but trying to keep himself from being assassinated. Essentially, we were watching a tragic villain(to go with our newly tragic hero?). The second he lost the card game, despite what he may have said to Bond, he knew he was a dead man walking. It was a very interesting and unique dynamic for a villain. Did it make him more sympathetic? Sure, as you really have to wonder how much he was regretting the decisions he had made by the end of the movie. Did I really feel bad for him at the end of the movie? Not too much, as he was still a Bond villain, and he was still doing very bad things. Nevertheless, he had some welcome depth to him, that's for sure.

Good post

[Kajiana]

I thought Le Chiffre's character was all too creepy. Mads played him perfectly. No, he wasn't the usual one-dimensional villain but a tragic creature slightly over the fence. I do hope Mads gets to play another character in a future Bond film.

[George Kaplan]

Certainly one of the more complex villains, ultimately though his undoing was as much wrought by his own actions and issues than anything else.

[tdalton]

I didn't really feel sorry for Le Chiffre, but I will say that Mads Mikkelsen's performance was absolutely brilliant, and he could end up being one of the better Bond villains in the series.

[db077]

I was sorry because I'm a Mads fan and I knew he wouldn't be in the rest of the movie and I just love watching the guy! Even when he's being a bit creepy!

Le Chiffre really got what was coming to him though and he knew if he didn't get that money back he was a dead man. Little did he know his time had already expired.

And yes, Mads was bloody brilliant!!

[Turn]

I admit I felt a little sorry for him when he goes back to his hotel room during one of the breaks in the poker match and he had the machete put at his throat. It didn't make a lot of sense for his backers to be throwing their weight around when he was trying to get the money back.

I liked that he was a villain who was conflicted, not just a stock villain we are automatically supposed to hate just because he is the villain and wants to destroy Bond. I really like his desperation during the torture scene. He knows his butt is on the line and it makes for a nice change of pace from the invulnerable villains such as Renard.

Yet another element of what makes Casino Royale such a rewarding Bond film experience.

[tdalton]

I liked that he was a villain who was conflicted, not just a stock villain we are automatically supposed to hate just because he is the villain and wants to destroy Bond. I really like his desperation during the torture scene. He knows his butt is on the line and it makes for a nice change of pace from the invulnerable villains such as Renard.

Yet another element of what makes Casino Royale such a rewarding Bond film experience.

Very well said. Agreed 100%.

[darthbond]

I loved his performance. It is the villian I have always wanted to see. You have to think, what would you do in his postion? It is exactly what I would do.

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