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[Roebuck]

Interesting that 00Twelve feels ''it'd be a bad idea to return to Fleming, then **** on Fleming by doing that with Bond'' when it's easy to find a strong vein of homoeroticism running through the novels. There are suggestions of Scaramanga's homosexuality in TMWTGG that, unsurprisingly, weren't explored in the fluffy film version. Within the framework of the more grown-up films Eon seem to be planning for the 21st Century this could be a interesting take on the Bond/Villain relationship.

[x 440Magnum x]

That's kind of what I was thinking about, with the two assassins in Diamonds are Forever...it just seems like they were comic relief to a certain degree, but with the new style I wouldn't call it out of the question...a lot of Bond stereotypes were broken in Casino Royale...I wonder if this was a test to see what would happen, and if they'll keep pushing the limits based on the feedback from this movie?

I think it's a legitimate discussion (the continuation of pushing those limits, not so much Craig making that comment, but the producers wanting to venture into or at least toward that territory.)

I'm not sure if that belongs in this thread though, as it doesn't have much to do with this article, just the direction (Eon?) wants to go.

Edited by x 440Magnum x, 30 November 2006 - 11:26 PM.

[dinovelvet]

Well I guess you've saved one poor victim from the horrors of tabloidization. Thanks guys for not hanging me right off. Here's to a brilliant #22! I'll put it out of my mind until the reviews for that one are out.

Discussion over for 2ish years as far as I'm concerned. Unless someone gets Craig in a face to face 60 Minutes feature. :-P.

I'm willing to bet someone pushed it on Craig in a stressed press interview where they were firing off questions, if it even happened at all. A question "Do you think there's any possibility that..." can very quickly become "This actor is urging producers to do this....", even if he was just merely trying not to offend people.

I think I get it.

Who do you think you're fooling?

[Kajiana]

Cripes. Someone told me of that story this morning ~ circulating on the internet, and I started crying. Seriously, though, I hope it's gossip. I'd hate to think of Ian Fleming rolling in his grave, too.

Edited by Kajiana, 30 November 2006 - 11:39 PM.

[EWKDSMB]

i think they are misquoting
you know the tabloids do that alot.

like for example

he got his teeth knocked out (he didn't it was a cap) he was moaning about it (no he wasn't)
something i noticed on the behind the scenes disc i got from NotW
i think we actually see his cap getting knocked out he sort of screws his face up a bit but then just gets on with fighting.
the only people moaning about it were the media and CnB

[Roebuck]

I'd hate to think of Ian Fleming rolling in his grave, too.

The guy was into heavy duty S&M pørn, but you feel a little implied homosexuality is going to have him rolling in his grave? It's time to go back and dust off the novels. They may alter your opinion of Mr Fleming.

[Skudor]

Obviously made up.

Still, it's an amusing thought.

[George Kaplan]

Its kind of interesting that ABC4 isn't attributing the news to anyone.

Several other sites are attributing Contact Music as the originator of this piece of news.

But in all cases the actual information seems to be a bit...jumbled at best.

At any rate, there seems to be a correlation between two statements - one reportedly attributable to Craig about full-frontal nudity and one about a "gay scene" - that isn't necessarily there

For me, I'm going to wait for something with attributations in it before I worry too much about this. I'm wary of news reports that seem to pull out quotes from and "reported information" from seemingly nowhere.

Edited by George Kaplan, 01 December 2006 - 12:01 AM.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

I'd hate to think of Ian Fleming rolling in his grave, too.

The guy was into heavy duty S&M pørn, but you feel a little implied homosexuality is going to have him rolling in his grave? It's time to go back and dust off the novels. They may alter your opinion of Mr Fleming.

Some of the villians are gay...not Bond...

I doubt Fleming would approve, not that it matters since this is just the rumor mill starting up early.

[RevolveR]

This is certainly not true, so I'm not concerned. Craig is not stupid, and I can't imagine that he would even consider making such a request.

IMHO, homosexuality is immoral and has no place in a James Bond film, period.

[License To Kill]

I will not tolerate a Bond film with my main character, the man I want to emulate in my life, as homosexual.

[Athena007]

I have a bad feeling about this.
About the direction this thread is going actually...
So... I'm going to take the liberty of closing it before it turns into something nasty.