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[HildebrandRarity]

If you look at the cell phone dates (I've seen the movie 5 times so I guess it's easier to remember after 5 viewings) The events of Casino Royale take place thus:

Winter 2006 (Jan/Feb) ... Killing of Daud Shah's Fisher in 'Pakistan'

(Cricket season in Pakistan is Autumn to Spring, I believe)

Winter 2006 (Jan/Feb) ... Killing of Dryden in Prague

(Dryden is wearing a winter overcoat, hat and gloves)

Early July 2006 ... Le Chiffre shorts Skyfleet stock in Uganda

(This event could have happened earlier than July...when is it the monsoon season in Uganda?)

July 6, 2006 ... Killing of Mollaka in Madagascar

July 7 or 8 ... Bond zeros in on Ellipsis @ M's Home

(Elipsis has 36 hours before it expires)

July 8 or 9 ... Bond to Nassau / Dimitrios meets Le Chiffre as Bond seduces Solange / Dimitrios and Bond on the "late flight to Miami"

July 9 or 10 ... Killing of Dimitios / Killing of Carlos

(at around 2:30 am)

Solange tortured and killed before dawn

July 10 or 11 ... M: "Quite the body count you're stacking up"

July 13 or 14 ... Bond meets Vesper

(Less scars on face, a few days have passed since M meets Bond in Nassau)

(Night train to Montenegro)

July 14 or 15 ... Aston Montenegro, Bond Meets Mathis


July 14 or 15 ... Game starts, Bond kills Obanno and Henchman

July 15 or 16 ... Bond loses it all / Felix stakes Bond's re-buy

July 16 or 17 ... Bond gets poisoned / Bond wins it all

July 16 or 17 ... Bond is tortured / Mr White kills Le Chiffre




Mid to Late July ... Bond at Lake Como Clinic and visited by Vesper on several occassions

Late July ... Mathis taken by MI6

Late July ... Funds trasfered from Basel Bank to Venice acc.

Early Aug ... Bond tells Vesper he loves her on Aegean Beach

Aug 4 2006 ... Killing of Gettler and his henchmen and the events surrounding Vesper's death

Aug 5 or 6 ... M and Bond chat on cell

Aug 6 or 7 ... Bond shoots Mr White




Anyone have any input?

Edited by HildebrandRarity, 27 November 2006 - 12:05 AM.

[Vauxhall]

Very interesting. I'd been planning on putting together something similar myself. Bond foils the Miami attack, and kills Carlos and Dimitrios in the early hours of July 9th, therefore I'd say Bond's travels were more specifically as follows...

July 6th: Madagascar
July 7th: London
July 8th: The Bahamas
July 9th: Miami and The Bahamas

Fairly stocking up the frequent flier miles!!

[stromberg]

Winter 2006 (Jan/Feb) ... Killing of Fisher in Prague

You might want to change the name to Dryden here

July 15 or 16 ... Bond loses it all / Felix helps Bond buy in

July 16 or 17 ... Bond gets poisoned / Bond wins it all

July 17 or 18 ... Bond is tortured / Mr White kills Le Chiffre

I think all this happens in one night.

[doubler83]

And not a sign of jetlag.

[Vauxhall]

July 9th: Bond kills Dimitrios and Carlos whilst foiling the terrorist attack in Miami (early hours of the morning) before returning to the Bahamas to meet M (afternoon). M makes a reference to the events of "this morning" in Miami, therefore it must be the same day.

[HildebrandRarity]

Winter 2006 (Jan/Feb) ... Killing of Fisher in Prague

You might want to change the name to Dryden here

July 15 or 16 ... Bond loses it all / Felix helps Bond buy in

July 16 or 17 ... Bond gets poisoned / Bond wins it all

July 17 or 18 ... Bond is tortured / Mr White kills Le Chiffre

I think all this happens in one night.

Quite...A typo...I did say Dryden was wearing gloves and coat and hat...i'll edit. Thanks.

I'm not sure if the knife/"get the girl out" scene is on the same night.

Le Chiffre was leaving with Valenka, etc...There is a possibility the "buy-in" takes place on the following night.

Also, Bond has dinner with Vesper after the game and that Bond is tortured early in the morning after midnight of the dinner scene (which would be a different date than the one in which he wins it all)

Your theory, however, is also plausable.

Very interesting. I'd been planning on putting together something similar myself. Bond foils the Miami attack, and kills Carlos and Dimitrios in the early hours of July 9th, therefore I'd say Bond's travels were more specifically as follows...

July 6th: Madagascar
July 7th: London
July 8th: The Bahamas
July 9th: Miami and The Bahamas

Fairly stocking up the frequent flier miles!!

I think a full day has passed between Madagascar and London because it's a full blown newspaper article and the Parliament is debating it that day.

[stromberg]

I'm not sure if the knife/"get the girl out" scene is on the same night.

Le Chiffre was leaving with Valenka, etc...There is a possibility the "buy-in" takes place on the following night.

Also, Bond has dinner with Vesper after the game and that Bond is tortured early in the morning after midnight of the dinner scene (which would be a different date than the one in which he wins it all)

Your theory, however, is also plausable.

Technically, it's two dates, certainly. That's why I wrote "same night"

It's all the same night. While it may have happened that female visitors in a casino wear the same dress on two consective nights, I doubt you'll see two of them at the same time (Vesper and Valenka), let alone in a Bond movie.

[Vauxhall]

I'd also say that Bond losing it all, buying back in, being poisoned, and then winning it all is on the same night, before being captured in the early hours of the morning - by your scale this would probably be July 16th-17th.

I remember coming across a prop somewhere on the internet that was an invitation to Le Chiffre's private poker game, and that gave the exact dates. I seem to remember that it may have been July 11th-12th though, which slightly confuses our timeline.

I think a full day has passed between Madagascar and London because it's a full blown newspaper article and the Parliament is debating it that day.

Possibly, but the text messages show that Bond is in Madagascar on July 6th and Miami on July 9th. The only way I could get it to fit was being in London on July 7th. If you want an explanation for the points you raise, I'd observe that the newspaper article is from the London Evening Standard, therefore there has been an entire day for the story to break and develop.

[HildebrandRarity]

I'm not sure if the knife/"get the girl out" scene is on the same night.

Le Chiffre was leaving with Valenka, etc...There is a possibility the "buy-in" takes place on the following night.

Also, Bond has dinner with Vesper after the game and that Bond is tortured early in the morning after midnight of the dinner scene (which would be a different date than the one in which he wins it all)

Your theory, however, is also plausable.

Technically, it's two dates, certainly. That's why I wrote "same night"

It's all the same night. While it may have happened that female visitors in a casino wear the same dress on two consective nights, I doubt you'll see two of them at the same time (Vesper and Valenka), let alone in a Bond movie.

Yes. You're right. Very good point. Same evening gowns.

[HildebrandRarity]

I'd also say that Bond losing it all, buying back in, being poisoned, and then winning it all is on the same night, before being captured in the early hours of the morning - by your scale this would probably be July 16th-17th.

I remember coming across a prop somewhere on the internet that was an invitation to Le Chiffre's private poker game, and that gave the exact dates. I seem to remember that it may have been July 11th-12th though, which slightly confuses our timeline.

I think a full day has passed between Madagascar and London because it's a full blown newspaper article and the Parliament is debating it that day.

Possibly, but the text messages show that Bond is in Madagascar on July 6th and Miami on July 9th. The only way I could get it to fit was being in London on July 7th. If you want an explanation for the points you raise, I'd observe that the newspaper article is from the London Evening Standard, therefore there has been an entire day for the story to break and develop.

OK...let's try and sweat this thing out:


July 11-12 for poker game > What about the scars from Miami International on his face...they're all gone...the scars are prevalent on the morning of, let's say the earliest, July 9th morning (it's a 7-8 hour flight from London to Nassau so I think it's 9th or 10th)

Then the scars are less on the train when Bond meets Vesper at dinner...so that at least 1 day (the flight from Nassau to Eastern Europe...PLUS a 6 hour loss in time zones)

The scars are gone by the time the game starts. Perhaps Bond's cell regeneration is VERY quick?


ALSO

Re: The London Evening standard > Parliament HAD to have 1 day to debate...Perhaps Parliament gets the camera photos and story and debates it on the morning of July 8th? Would the debate on the morning of July 7 be "too early"?

Could be.

Thanks for the input, Vauxhall

Also to Stromberg.

Good stuff by both of you.

We'll soon get to the bottom of this. (How ing Geeky is that? LOL!)

[Tuxedo wearing Bond]

Lol I just think about CR being set here in november...

[Tuxedo wearing Bond]

I'd also say that Bond losing it all, buying back in, being poisoned, and then winning it all is on the same night, before being captured in the early hours of the morning - by your scale this would probably be July 16th-17th.

I remember coming across a prop somewhere on the internet that was an invitation to Le Chiffre's private poker game, and that gave the exact dates. I seem to remember that it may have been July 11th-12th though, which slightly confuses our timeline.

I think a full day has passed between Madagascar and London because it's a full blown newspaper article and the Parliament is debating it that day.

Possibly, but the text messages show that Bond is in Madagascar on July 6th and Miami on July 9th. The only way I could get it to fit was being in London on July 7th. If you want an explanation for the points you raise, I'd observe that the newspaper article is from the London Evening Standard, therefore there has been an entire day for the story to break and develop.

OK...let's try and sweat this thing out:


July 11-12 for poker game > What about the scars from Miami International on his face...they're all gone...the scars are prevalent on the morning of, let's say the earliest, July 9th morning (it's a 7-8 hour flight from London to Nassau so I think it's 9th or 10th)

Then the scars are less on the train when Bond meets Vesper at dinner...so that at least 1 day (the flight from Nassau to Eastern Europe...PLUS a 6 hour loss in time zones)

The scars are gone by the time the game starts. Perhaps Bond's cell regeneration is VERY quick?

Actually if you look at the scene after Bond and vesper in the shower, you can still slightly see the scars that Bond got in the miami scene, which I thought was really really cool.

[License To Kill]

Winter 2006 (Jan/Feb) ... Killing of Fisher in Prague

You might want to change the name to Dryden here

July 15 or 16 ... Bond loses it all / Felix helps Bond buy in

July 16 or 17 ... Bond gets poisoned / Bond wins it all

July 17 or 18 ... Bond is tortured / Mr White kills Le Chiffre

I think all this happens in one night.

Yeah, I believe Stromberg is correct.