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#1 james st.john smythe

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 06:56 PM

I think the final scene will continue into the next film, but my mate recons otherwise he says Bond will have shot him! Now im not so sure!

#2 stamper

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 08:05 PM

I think it's over and done with white, why start the next one with the same scene ? But then, I'm not producing the damn movies.

#3 Mister Asterix

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 08:20 PM

Reminder: Please keep spoilers in the Spoiler Forum until the movie has opened everywhere.

#4 Vauxhall

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 04:19 AM

I strongly doubt that Bond will have shot Mr White directly after we hear "Bond, James Bond"; the information Mr White has will be needed by Bond and MI6. Assassinating him straight away would be a return to the impulsive Bond of the start of the movie, rather than the dispassionate character he becomes. I would like to see some sort of interrogation of Mr White in BOND 22, perhaps a form of torture - it would be grittier, and arguably, realistic.

#5 Qwerty

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 04:39 AM

I was thinking about it as well and am not sure. Both possibilties (kill him/letting him live and interrogating) seem plausible.

#6 K1Bond007

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 04:57 AM

The script made it more like Bond immediately killed him. Some things were changed and it kind of came out different in the actual finished product so I don't believe that to be the case anymore. I don't think he's alive though. I think Bond got what he wanted and finished the job. That'll lead into Bond 22, but White is dead IMHO.

#7 Double-O-Kevin

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 09:13 AM

I would like to see some sort of interrogation of Mr White in BOND 22, perhaps a form of torture - it would be grittier, and arguably, realistic.


I completely agree with you, Vauxhall!

I also think (if Bond would be the one who tortures him) that it would be Bond's little revenge against Le Chiffre torturing him. It would be indirect, but effective nonetheless.

#8 MarcAngeDraco

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 01:48 PM

Just a guess, of course, but I think Mr. White won't appear in the next film. Bond will have already gotten the info he needs and will have finished the job...

But who knows...

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 02:43 PM

Perhaps the pre-titles sequence for the next film will be Bond acting on the information that Mr White has given him to get the money back? Perhaps even getting a step closer to The Organization?

#10 bond_girl_double07

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 02:50 PM

I feel like Bond is already finished with that character.. he had total control over him in the final scene, why mess with him in 22? I agree with bonds_walter.. a reminder of White and Bond acting on his information would be an excellent start to 22 :)

#11 MR. BOND 93

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 09:08 PM

I hope Bond 22 will start off EXACTLY where CR left off.

Like maybe Mr. White tells Bond where the money is then Bond quickly shoots him and throws him into the ocean by that building and never even tells M.

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 09:41 PM

Um, wait a minute...

...Why would a man who is in the line of work such as Mr White live in such a massive villa/estate without any 'protection' or hired help?

Would'nt the servants or bodyguards have heard the shot or seen him crawling in agony?

Where's the gardner at least?

(Perhaps Mr White is a recluse? He seems to have no fear given how he clinically assassinated Le Chiffre and his girlfriend and henchmen.)

#13 mccartney007

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Posted 26 November 2006 - 02:46 AM

Would a metal attache case full of money float?

#14 K1Bond007

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Posted 26 November 2006 - 03:20 AM

Would a metal attache case full of money float?


Depends on how heavy it is and how much air is inside. Are we sure it's even metal to begin with? Could of have easily been plastic. I doubt there's money inside. At the beginning of the film it's 3 big huge cases, at the end it's 1 average size briefcase. It was probably bearer bonds or something similar.

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Posted 26 November 2006 - 05:29 PM

I doubt that Bond 22 will start off exactly where cr left off because it would screw with the time period. The film made itself clear that it was set in 2006 and the next film will have to be set in 2008. So my bet is that Bond has already got the information from Mr white somehow(hopefully torture lol).

#16 bill007

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 05:37 AM

If Bond wanted him dead, he wouldn't have blown out his knee with the H&K UMP 45. There's information to be had from Mr. White.

"Tuxedo wearing Bond" has a good point, though. The time line will have to be current in 2008.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 10:03 AM

...Why would a man who is in the line of work such as Mr White live in such a massive villa/estate without any 'protection' or hired help?

Would'nt the servants or bodyguards have heard the shot or seen him crawling in agony?

Where's the gardner at least?


Maybe Bond executed the lot of them before White even arrived. He's in place when Whte's car shows up, waiting to call him. And we never do get inside the villa...

Would a metal attache case full of money float?


Boats are made of metal. They float. :)

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 12:43 AM

I think a lot of our questions will be answered in the next one. I'm pretty sure that the last scene from CR will be the pretitle for Bond 22, just extended to explain everything we're wondering about.

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 12:51 AM

The things is...Mr. White spared Bond, and really is not to blame for Bond's troubles. Unless he ends up being the one who puts Vesper in the place that makes her betray Bond. On a joking note...White has to live so that he can become a reclusive Blofeld in Las Vegas (from Diamonds are forevever)!

#20 MattofSteel

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 02:00 AM

I hope White reappears - I thought his character was seriously sinister and cool...and perfectly cast. I mean Christensen just LOOKS like some slimy dude who would work for SPECTRE.

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 03:04 AM

^ Indeed.

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 02:18 PM

Casino Royale is when Bond gets 00 status, i know it's set in 2006 but i would think the basic story underline should prequal to all the other bond movies, so if there is any hidden secrets, i would think that they are related to Dr No unless Bond 22 is another prequal. When you first see Mr White, I thought he had metal hands and i was like holy crap but it wasn't the case.

I agree that Mr White would be ideal as a member for Spectre or even better, Blofeld.

As for the money, I don't think he gives it back, or at least all of it, he has to maintain his rich lifestyle in all the other bond movies. Swiss bank account, just like the nazis :cooltongue:.

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 03:05 PM

I doubt that Bond 22 will start off exactly where cr left off because it would screw with the time period. The film made itself clear that it was set in 2006 and the next film will have to be set in 2008. So my bet is that Bond has already got the information from Mr white somehow(hopefully torture lol).


Well, the pre-title sequence doesn't have to be set in the same time as the rest of the film (think GoldenEye for example)...

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 03:36 PM

I doubt that Bond 22 will start off exactly where cr left off because it would screw with the time period. The film made itself clear that it was set in 2006 and the next film will have to be set in 2008. So my bet is that Bond has already got the information from Mr white somehow(hopefully torture lol).


Well, the pre-title sequence doesn't have to be set in the same time as the rest of the film (think GoldenEye for example)...


Wasn't there word from Eon that the opening of 22 had already been shot? A major battle sequence? That would seem to back up your thought re the PTS.

#25 Gri007

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 04:13 PM

I strongly doubt that Bond will have shot Mr White directly after we hear "Bond, James Bond"; the information Mr White has will be needed by Bond and MI6. Assassinating him straight away would be a return to the impulsive Bond of the start of the movie, rather than the dispassionate character he becomes. I would like to see some sort of interrogation of Mr White in BOND 22, perhaps a form of torture - it would be grittier, and arguably, realistic.



I always think the PTS of Bond 22 would open onto what we had left of at. Bond interrogates White at his villa, then probably kills him before the main titles.

I personally think that it would be stupid for Bond 22 'NOT' to start of with Bond and White at White's villa. Not necessarly to have White killed but for Bond to qeustion him. After all 'we need to talk'

But if this was the case then surly they would have shot the scene there and then, for continuety sake. But then surly some pics would have leaked out by now.

And as to you question Dodge. Check this out.

This is my take on the PTS of Bond 22.

http://debrief.comma...showtopic=37554

You may want to scroll down a little

#26 Judo chop

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 04:29 PM

There is no doubt that Bond desires information from Mr. White, for reasons stated above (and stated plainly in the film).

As someone also already pointed out, we can probably expect Mr. White to have staff in that castle of his. As the PTS, I could see Bond

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 04:35 PM

I strongly doubt that Bond will have shot Mr White directly after we hear "Bond, James Bond"; the information Mr White has will be needed by Bond and MI6. Assassinating him straight away would be a return to the impulsive Bond of the start of the movie, rather than the dispassionate character he becomes. I would like to see some sort of interrogation of Mr White in BOND 22, perhaps a form of torture - it would be grittier, and arguably, realistic.



I always think the PTS of Bond 22 would open onto what we had left of at. Bond interrogates White at his villa, then probably kills him before the main titles.

I personally think that it would be stupid for Bond 22 'NOT' to start of with Bond and White at White's villa. Not necessarly to have White killed but for Bond to qeustion him. After all 'we need to talk'

But if this was the case then surly they would have shot the scene there and then, for continuety sake. But then surly some pics would have leaked out by now.

And as to you question Dodge. Check this out.

This is my take on the PTS of Bond 22.

http://debrief.comma...showtopic=37554

You may want to scroll down a little


Thanks for the cool tip, Gri007. The suspense mounts with the countdown now.

#28 Andrew

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 07:47 PM

But if this was the case then surly they would have shot the scene there and then, for continuety sake. But then surly some pics would have leaked out by now.



Well there are some stills from "Bond on Set" that we haven't seen on film...

#29 Gri007

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 07:50 PM

Are there?

I have Bond on Set, but can't say i've noticed any pictures that could prove to be from the Bond22 pts or Bond 22 at all.

#30 Andrew

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 10:09 PM

Are there?

I have Bond on Set, but can't say i've noticed any pictures that could prove to be from the Bond22 pts or Bond 22 at all.


There's one shot of Bond with the machine gun pointed downwards, to something out of picture. It's probably not for B22 but who knows.