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[Gobi-1]

Of all the Bond girls in Casino Royale Valenka is the most mysterious. She is Le Chiffre's girlfriend and also henchwoman as she poisons Bond for him. During the torture scene we see Valenka enter the room with Vesper and another one of Le Chiffre's thugs. Later we hear two gun shots before Mr. White comes in to kill Le Chiffre.

One can assume that Valenka and the anonymous thug were killed, but we never see it happen. Would be cool if it was revealed that Valenka was not killed and is in fact a member of "The Organization." Since one of the main points of the film is to trust no one it would certainly be a nice twist.

Probably won't happen though.

[Bucky]

it would be nice if she showed up again but i believe she died

[doubler83]

Didn't M say that everybody was killed except Bond and Vesper?

[deth]

plus the fact that Campbell made it quite clear that Valenka was just eye candy (which I wouldn't have minded seeing more of)

[capungo]

Didn't M say that everybody was killed except Bond and Vesper?

I suppose it'd be possible that MI6 didn't detect her leaving. But yeah, all signs point to dead. Sorry.

[00Twelve]

She was shot by White. I think that was the general assumption.

[Johnboy007]

Bond22: The Wrath of Valenka

[ckoch]

Nice eye candy at that especially with that Green cocktail dress on. Wow!

[DLibrasnow]

She certainly was "eye candy" and very nice "eye candy."

But I think Mr White killed her. It's unfortunate because I would have liked to see her return in Bond 2.2

[Qwerty]

Bond22: The Wrath of Valenka

I'd be interested in seeing that!

She was very lovely eye candy.

[Gobi-1]

I'd rather see Bond 22: The Bath of Valenka

[Double-Oh Agent]

Good one Gobi. Like everyone else, I believe that everyone of Le Chiffre's henchmen--including Valenka--was killed off-screen by Mr. White (much like they were in the novel).

One question, Le Chiffre's bald henchman that got the most screentime is his name Kratt? I suppose he is the main henchman and not Valenka in the film.

[ACE]

Think she's shot by Mr White.

This thread title sounds like the name of a Booker prize winning book.
Could just imagine Meryl Streep in the movie version.

[bonds_walther]

Two shots were fired - one for her and one for the thug.

[Vauxhall]

One question, Le Chiffre's bald henchman that got the most screentime is his name Kratt? I suppose he is the main henchman and not Valenka in the film.

Yes, that's Kratt, played by Clemens Schick. I don't think it was very clear that Valenka was intended to be a henchwoman; her role was much more in the mould of being Le Chiffre's girlfriend.

Two shots were fired - one for her and one for the thug.

Interesting this. I'll need to listen again to make sure there were only two fired, because Le Chiffre had at least one another thug with him in addition to Valenka and Kratt.

[Qwerty]

One of Valenka's lines in the script must have been edited out either for time or content. I believe Kratt and herself had just taken Vesper into the other room and she comes out saying something like: "I can't find the pliers" to Le Chiffre.

[Pam Bouvier]

Bond22: The Wrath of Valenka

I'd be interested in seeing that!

She was very lovely eye candy.

My husband thought so too. More so than Vesper, which, surprised me.

[Qwerty]

Casino Royale has a fantastic collection of Bond girls!

[Double-Oh Agent]

One question, Le Chiffre's bald henchman that got the most screentime is his name Kratt? I suppose he is the main henchman and not Valenka in the film.

Yes, that's Kratt, played by Clemens Schick. I don't think it was very clear that Valenka was intended to be a henchwoman; her role was much more in the mould of being Le Chiffre's girlfriend.

Two shots were fired - one for her and one for the thug.

Interesting this. I'll need to listen again to make sure there were only two fired, because Le Chiffre had at least one another thug with him in addition to Valenka and Kratt.

I would assume that there was a second exit into that unseen room and if there were only two shots fired then I would also assume that the other thug went back above decks where he met his demise by Mr. White before White dealt with Valenka and Kratt. While unseen, all of those deaths are implied by Mr. White's sudden appearance in the cargo hold where Le Chiffre is. A talented killer our Mr. White, no?

[DamnCoffee]

Two shots were fired - one for her and one for the thug.

But, Two shots could have been fired at the thug, Valenka could be Mr Whites lover, trust me, she's probably in his jucuzzi at the Villa .

[Scottlee]

I didn't notice that it was Valenka who gave Bond the drink, neither did I even realise that was her name. A very mysterious character on the whole, apart from when she was concerned for her arm.

[Qwerty]

I didn't notice that it was Valenka who gave Bond the drink, neither did I even realise that was her name. A very mysterious character on the whole, apart from when she was concerned for her arm.

She didn't hand him the drink, but she put the poison in it just before the waitress took it.

[Loomis]

Funny how much more sympathetic a character Valenka is in the finished film than we were led to believe she'd be. Wasn't she described online for months as "Le Chiffre's bodyguard", and weren't there reports that she'd torture Vesper? Okay, so she's hardly a goodie, but she doesn't really seem any worse than Solange - basically, she's a case of "good girl, bad boyfriend".

If there's an extended cut of CR on DVD - hope, hope - I trust we'll see a much nastier Valenka.

[Vauxhall]

Agreed with the above points. There is really no evidence of her being a bodyguard. The original scene from the script where she would have first been introduced (at the rebel camp in Uganda) no longer features her.

[Mister Asterix]

I didn't notice that it was Valenka who gave Bond the drink, neither did I even realise that was her name. A very mysterious character on the whole, apart from when she was concerned for her arm.

She didn't hand him the drink, but she put the poison in it just before the waitress took it.

[mra]What was a nice touch was there were two Vespers on the tray the waitress took, Bond

[Righty007]

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I didn't notice that it was Valenka who gave Bond the drink, neither did I even realise that was her name. A very mysterious character on the whole, apart from when she was concerned for her arm.
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She didn't hand him the drink, but she put the poison in it just before the waitress took it.
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[mra]What was a nice touch was there were two Vespers on the tray the waitress took, Bond

[Qwerty]

If there's an extended cut of CR on DVD - hope, hope - I trust we'll see a much nastier Valenka.

Me too! Was kind of surprised to see her "where are the pliers?" line cut out of the torture sequence--but perhaps it was just too much (or maybe for time).

[Scottlee]

Is Valenka actually seen on screen inserting the poison? The first I realised Bond might be in trouble was when he starting sweating in his seat.

[Mister Asterix]

Is Valenka actually seen on screen inserting the poison? The first I realised Bond might be in trouble was when he starting sweating in his seat.

Yes. She drops the digitalis into his drink while it is sitting on the tray at the bar. The barmaid then comes over and brings the drink to Bond.