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[capungo]

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Eva Green Reveals Possible Bond 22 'Baddie' Details

_*SPOILERS*

Just something interesting I found on ew.com that I don't think has been mentioned anywhere here. They have a little series of interviews up w/ Craig, Eva, and Mads. Anywho, when asked about Vesper's relationships and mysteries, she mentions that

"The plan is, the Algerian boyfriend is going to be the baddie in the second Bond...".

Pretty cool, no?

[CharlieBind]

Just something interesting I found on ew.com that I don't think has been mentioned anywhere here. They have a little series of interviews up w/ Craig, Eva, and Mads. Anywho, when asked about Vesper's relationships and mysteries, she mentions that

"The plan is, the Algerian boyfriend is going to be the baddie in the second Bond...".

Pretty cool, no?

No.

To be far, it depends on how they work it, but my initial feeling is it's a bit to 'soap opera-ish' and they should move on.

[DamnCoffee]

Oh Good find but please put a spoiler mark on that

[bond_girl_double07]

That could work actually.. I can see that being a decent film if they're going totally off the Fleming track.. hmmmmm, I'll think about it..

[JimmyBond]

Perhaps he wasnt kidnapped, but was using Vesper all along eh? Would kind of make her death even more depressing, and make Bond's quest for vengeance even more powerful.

[ckoch]

Perhaps he wasnt kidnapped, but was using Vesper all along eh? Would kind of make her death even more depressing, and make Bond's quest for vengeance even more powerful.

Interesting angle JimmyBond but I think that the screenwriters should try and address some of the question coming out of Casino Royale (ie. Mathis and his allegiance, Vesper's lover, the whole mystery organization that Mr. White works for) but I don't think that they could make it a little too soap opearish as well.

[Bucky]

Perhaps he wasnt kidnapped, but was using Vesper all along eh? Would kind of make her death even more depressing, and make Bond's quest for vengeance even more powerful.

thats how i always thought things might have been as him being a member of the same organization as mr white. the more i think about the sequel the more i get excited. it doesnt feel like bond 22, it feels like casino royale 2, in a very good way.

Edited by Bucky, 18 November 2006 - 11:47 PM.

[capungo]

the more i think about the sequel the more i get excited. it doesnt feel like bond 22, it feels like casino royale 2, in a very good way.

Yeah, when I heard about Craig doing 3 movies, I figure'd I'd just call it the Craig trilogy. Now that the plotline of the next(and possibly 3rd) movie seems to be a direct continuation of Casino Royale, I might end up having to call it the Casino Royale trilogy

Edited by capungo, 18 November 2006 - 11:58 PM.

[Bucky]

it would be nice to see bond continue to develop through craigs next two or three films and not be the static figure we had gotten in the brosnan films

[Harmsway]

Perhaps he wasnt kidnapped, but was using Vesper all along eh? Would kind of make her death even more depressing, and make Bond's quest for vengeance even more powerful.

Interesting angle JimmyBond but I think that the screenwriters should try and address some of the question coming out of Casino Royale (ie. Mathis and his allegiance, Vesper's lover, the whole mystery organization that Mr. White works for) but I don't think that they could make it a little too soap opearish as well.

I think the screenwriters will address all those questions. It's already been stated we'll meet the head of the new organization in BOND 22. Now this comment comes out - and does it mean that the Algerian boyfriend works for that organization, or that he *is* the leader? I'm going to go with the former, for now.

But I think BOND 2.2 is shaping up very interestingly, to say the least. We have a lot of cool story threads to build a film out of (Mathis, Mr. White's organization, the Algerian boyfriend, Bond's quest for vengeance).

[Vauxhall]

Indeed, this all sounds extremely interesting news. I've mentioned before my inkling that a French-Algerian boyfriend may provide a link to Islamic terrorism, which may be used as a modern threat in the movie. I'm also under the belief that the boyfriend is/was merely a member of the organisation - someone recruited, perhaps by Mr White. Especially given the manner that it was Mr White that Vesper directed Bond to at the end of CASINO ROYALE.

Oh by the way, has anyone tried dialling that mobile number for Mr White yet? That could be the quickest way to find out what happens in BOND 22

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

Eva Green Reveals Possible Bond 22 'Baddie' Details

_*SPOILERS*

Shaping up to be very interesting film! Great find, capungo.

[K1Bond007]

I don't know if I like that.. but we'll see. 99% of the things they say this far out is usually BS. That is my experience anyway. They'll probably iron all that out in January as Craig said previously.

[Double-Oh Agent]

Perhaps he wasnt kidnapped, but was using Vesper all along eh? Would kind of make her death even more depressing, and make Bond's quest for vengeance even more powerful.

Interesting angle JimmyBond but I think that the screenwriters should try and address some of the question coming out of Casino Royale (ie. Mathis and his allegiance, Vesper's lover, the whole mystery organization that Mr. White works for) but I don't think that they could make it a little too soap opearish as well.

I think the screenwriters will address all those questions. It's already been stated we'll meet the head of the new organization in BOND 22. Now this comment comes out - and does it mean that the Algerian boyfriend works for that organization, or that he *is* the leader? I'm going to go with the former, for now.

But I think BOND 2.2 is shaping up very interestingly, to say the least. We have a lot of cool story threads to build a film out of (Mathis, Mr. White's organization, the Algerian boyfriend, Bond's quest for vengeance).

If this is in fact supposed to be a trilogy, then I think I agree with Harmsway in that Vesper's boyfriend will be the villain in Bond 22 and the terrorist organization's leader will be the villain in Bond 23.

As for the topic of Mathis, I mentioned in the Casino Royale spoiler section that I can't see him being a bad guy because in the novels he is Bond's best friend in Europe and it would be such a waste of a good character to turn him bad. As a result, I think Le Chiffre was lying to Bond just to put another seed of doubt in his mind about his ally before the torture and on the off-chance that he let Bond go after Bond readily gave him his password. More likely, however, is that Mathis is a triple agent--faking that he is doubling for Le Chiffre and getting in the terrorist banker's good graces so as to get inside information on his organization.

[Vauxhall]

More likely, however, is that Mathis is a triple agent--faking that he is doubling for Le Chiffre and getting in the terrorist banker's good graces so as to get inside information on his organization.

I would like that idea, but unfortunately can't imagine it being correct due to the fact that even if Bond didn't, M would know about Mathis working to infiltrate the group. I do believe that he is innocent though.

[doubler83]

Oh by the way, has anyone tried dialling that mobile number for Mr White yet? That could be the quickest way to find out what happens in BOND 22

Damn, what was that film or TV series where you could ring up a number that was shown in the film/show and you would get information on the next episode.

That would be cool if it was true. Ring up the number and get the message: "James Bond will return in Risico".

[Evil Doctor Cheese Returns]

If you read the article..Vesper's motivations really are confusing...even Eva Green sats so!! I feel less thick now! I'm so glad that they're going to tie up all of those loose ends...so you know if/that vesper was planning to screw Bond over all along and whether Mathis was heavily involved.

I like the Algerian boyfriend angle...and without any books left it's clever idea to expand on characters'situations from the books with a bit of conjecture.

And lets face it...we've all wanted to kill the ex boyfriend of the person we're going out with...the one who really screwed him or her up!

G x

[Vauxhall]

Oh by the way, has anyone tried dialling that mobile number for Mr White yet? That could be the quickest way to find out what happens in BOND 22

Damn, what was that film or TV series where you could ring up a number that was shown in the film/show and you would get information on the next episode.

Well, in '24', there is a number mentioned quite often, and if you call that number you get through to the "fan phone", which is always carried around on set. Various members of the production answer it, and it has been known that people have ended up speaking to Kiefer Sutherland himself.

[capungo]

If this is in fact supposed to be a trilogy, then I think I agree with Harmsway in that Vesper's boyfriend will be the villain in Bond 22 and the terrorist organization's leader will be the villain in Bond 23.

00A, I totally agree. I gotta say, after how well they seem to have planned out this Casino Royale trilogy, I'm starting to get behind Craig doing only 3 of these. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against him doing more(who else better could they get?) but after doing what will hopefully turn into the defining multi-film arc for the Bond films, what else could they really do with Craig that would live up to that? While it may be nice to see 1 normal style movie where Craig's up against some standalone threat without this sort of personal investment, they'd have to be pretty damn good. I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather just leave Craig's tenure as a nice little cohesive diamond of sorts in the franchise, rather then having the later entries tarnish what we loved so much about the earlier ones a la Connery.

Either way, can't wait to see the rage Craig's gonna give that boyfriend, if he was indeed only using Vesper.

BTW thanks for the good words Qwerty. Glad I can contribute something to the community rather early in my tenure here.

Edited by capungo, 19 November 2006 - 04:22 PM.

[zencat]

Whoa! Eva, baby, a real spoiler there.

But it sounds good.

[Simon]

As above, I see this thing developing into a trilogy for Craig. If he really does only want to do three, it would be a very neat (as in, tidy) way for his contribution to the series to evolve.

[killkenny kid]

Whoa! Eva, baby, a real spoiler there.

But it sounds good.

indeed, and a smile to my face.

[hcmv007]

A villain who has his own ax to grind on 007? That sounds awesome!

[00Twelve]

Shocking. Positively shocking.








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[K1Bond007]

I think this idea was thrown out. It's actually mentioned in the script, but I don't recall it in the movie. Look up the scene where M is talking to Bond about Vesper's death etc. She makes a comment saying "For all we know he was in on it, in which case she died trying to free a man who betrayed her from the start." I don't remember this in the movie at all. Anyone else?

[Stax]

Here's a thought. Remember how Romain Duris (http://imdb.com/name/nm0244151/), who starred in "The Beat That My Heart Skipped," was rumored to have tested for Le Chiffre? What if he might actually be up for the role of Vesper's French Alergian boyfriend-turned-villain? Just a thought. I could buy him and Eva as a couple.

Edited by Stax, 25 November 2006 - 07:42 PM.

[MR. BOND 93]

Here's a thought. Remember how Romain Duris (http://imdb.com/name/nm0244151/), who starred in "The Beat That My Heart Skipped," was rumored to have tested for Le Chiffre? What if he might actually be up for the role of Vesper's French Alergian boyfriend-turned-villain? Just a thought. I could buy him and Eva as a couple.

Hmmm... interesting. He looks like he could be a pretty good villain if you ask me.

[HildebrandRarity]

I just saw the movie for the fifth time and I noted how casually Gettler approaches Vesper in the secluded Venetian courtyard.

I can only describe his smile as he walks up to her as being "warm"...as if they'd met before...as if he knew her.

Notice her own facial reaction when she's taking pics from the Spirit sailboat upon seeing Gettler catching a glimpse of her.

And she does not seem to have any fear when she hands over the silver briefcase. Look at Vesper's cell message. "Meet me in 30 minutes". How casual is that?

Could it be that M has it wrong during the second to last scene?

The French Algerian...could he be Gettler's pal?

[zencat]

I think this idea was thrown out. It's actually mentioned in the script, but I don't recall it in the movie. Look up the scene where M is talking to Bond about Vesper's death etc. She makes a comment saying "For all we know he was in on it, in which case she died trying to free a man who betrayed her from the start." I don't remember this in the movie at all. Anyone else?

Nope, I don't think that line is in the movie. But I think it could be the crux of Bond 22.

[JimmyBond]

I think this idea was thrown out. It's actually mentioned in the script, but I don't recall it in the movie. Look up the scene where M is talking to Bond about Vesper's death etc. She makes a comment saying "For all we know he was in on it, in which case she died trying to free a man who betrayed her from the start." I don't remember this in the movie at all. Anyone else?

Nope, I don't think that line is in the movie. But I think it could be the crux of Bond 22.

Perhaps the reason it was cut then.