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[Righty007]

Moneypenny and Q are missing so the film can be "down to earth" or whatever but their characters were there...

Villiers = Moneypenny

Villiers was essentially a male version of Moneypenny. He has a desk outside M's office and assists M with everything. Perhaps Bond will beat him up for being a jerk (i.e. the Miami phone call) and Miss Jane Moneypenny will be hired in Bond 22?

Homing Device Guy = Q

Could this guy be Q? I don't think they ever mention his name plus he puts a homing device into Bond like Q did in Goldfinger and Thunderball. John Cleese is done because he's too much of a comedian but this actor or another actor could play a more serious Q in the future.

What are your thoughts?

[deth]

I hope not to both

[Qwerty]

I thought Villiers worked out pretty well in the film. Wouldn't mind it if he returned for Bond 22. However, I do not want to see another case of too many MI6 characters once more (The World is not Enough) if Moneypenny and Q will be back for Bond 22 as well.

[dinovelvet]

Homing Device Guy = Q

Could this guy be Q? I don't think they ever mention his name plus he puts a homing device into Bond like Q did in Goldfinger and Thunderball. John Cleese is done because he's too much of a comedian but this actor or another actor could play a more serious Q in the future.

What are your thoughts?

What about the guy who was telling Bond how to use the defibrillator? He seemed like a Q type character...

[swaz]

I actually can't wait to see Craig's Bond to interact with Moneypenny. It's a highlight of the other 20 films and sadly missing in Casino Royale. Bond needs Moneypenny whether he knows it or not. Especially what happened with Vesper. She will prove that women can be trusted and care for them. I think Bond will quite rightly distrust women after being burned once.

[Bon-san]

Moneypenny and Q are missing so the film can be "down to earth" or whatever but their characters were there...

Villiers = Moneypenny

Villiers was essentially a male version of Moneypenny. He has a desk outside M's office and assists M with everything. Perhaps Bond will beat him up for being a jerk (i.e. the Miami phone call) and Miss Jane Moneypenny will be hired in Bond 22?

Homing Device Guy = Q

Could this guy be Q? I don't think they ever mention his name plus he puts a homing device into Bond like Q did in Goldfinger and Thunderball. John Cleese is done because he's too much of a comedian but this actor or another actor could play a more serious Q in the future.

What are your thoughts?

If they had inserted Moneypenny into the Villiers part, and Q into the Homing Device Guy/Defibrillator Guy parts, it wouldn't have hurt the film at all. They could have downplayed the parts in precisely the way they downplayed the Felix Leiter part. My feeling is the producers were wanting to make a big point that 'Q and Moneypenny aren't in the film. It's DIFFERENT.'

[DamnCoffee]

i loved the part of Villiers but i think he's more Charles Robinson than Moneypenny .

[Mercator]

I am sorry but I could not see Moneypenny in the film. Or Q.
How I wish they were there and that Q could give Bond his Aston Martin. It was a shame the car chase could have had rockets and nails and machine guns fighting Le Chiffre and his bad guys. It would have been cool.
I really missed Bond and Moneypenny and that makes a Bond film. They should have had the 007 theme as well not just at the end.

[stamper]

Funny many says that Moneypenny and Q are not in CR, I think the new Moneypenny is the man outside M's Office, who answers the phone when Bond calls from Miami, and Q the guy who gives bond his gadget, the tracking device in the arm. Only they are not called by their nickname.

[Jeff007]

Wasn't that Villers outside the office?

[Bondian]

So the new Miss Moneypenny is now Mr MoneyTeddy?.

Yeah. But I think that chap who tells Bond to park his car is Auric Goldfinger.

[RazorBlade]

I'm sorry. Don't see it. They fill the roles of Moneypenny and Q but they aren't the characters.

[stamper]

Are they more than the armorer in Dr No is Q ?

[Sanjuro007]

In hindsight, do you folks think they should have went ahead and made him Q? I don't mean the actor who played that role in CR (he didn't seem appropriate) -- what I mean is, should they have cast the actor they intended to be Q for Craig's tenure and simply just treat it matter-of-factly as was the case in Dr. No and FRWL? That is, leave all the banter aside, just -- here's the Armourer/Major Boothroyd? Fans would "get" that it was Q, but there just wouldn't the traditional "Q Branch" scene to signal to mainstream audiences that this what they're being teased with.

I'm happy the way things were, but I can't help but think that would've been a nice "preview" of things to come. Ah well....

Just curious.

[DamnCoffee]

I think Q will be on of them guys who aided Bond through his Cardiac Arrest.

[deth]

Moneypenny isn't a codename like Q is. So Moneypenney can't be a male and still have that name. unless she were to undergo a sex change....


*shudders as one imagines Lois Maxwell as a man*

[Lounge Lizard]

Dr. Kananga's second cousin's nephew is also in CR, running behind Solange's horse. Watch closely!

[Qwerty]

While limited, I liked the role of Villiers in Casino Royale. My worry is that if his character remains and Moneypenny and Q return, it might be a case of The World is not Enough again where there were simply too many MI6 people.

[darthbond]

It is an interesting idea. I think Q was on leave for the movie, because He knew his worst nightmare had come, and Moneypenny wasn't hired yet.

darthbond

[00Twelve]

Or imagine this...Bond was at MI6 BEFORE Moneypenny and Q! (*Passes out...typing again*) That would definitely give Bond the automatic upper hand with Moneypenny and his perceived upper hand with Boothroyd. There's actually been nothing in the films or even Fleming to suggest that Bond couldn't have gotten to MI6 before the others.

[deth]

it might be a case of The World is not Enough again where there were simply too many MI6 people.

really? I actually kind of liked that aspect... made it feel kinda like the books... where the rest of the Secret Service is mentioned fairly regularly...

[Double-Oh Agent]

I think Q will be on of them guys who aided Bond through his Cardiac Arrest.

But those guys are medical doctors. Major Boothroyd a.k.a. Q is not a doctor. He's an armorer/gadgetmaster. If there was a Q-type character in Casino Royale it was the guy who put the homer in Bond's arm.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Villiers = Moneypenny

The girl in the MI6 control room reminded me to Moneypenny (When Bond has the cardiac arrest).

Villiers = Moneypenny

The girl in the MI6 control room reminded me to Moneypenny (When Bond has the cardiac arrest).

[00Twelve]

I don't think Q nor Moneypenny were there. And I hope they weren't. I hope when we meet them, Bond has been there slightly longer, giving him that edge over them that he always had and we chalked up to simply Bond's gravitas.

[Mister Asterix]

I see Villiers is more a combining of Tanner and Moneypenny. Trim the fat, so to speak. And the estrogen.

The Homing Device guy and the people talking at the SIS when Bond was attempting to defibrillate were most likely from Q-Branch, but not Q.

[DaveBond21]

I think the Homing Device Guy was actually Smithers.....

[delfloria]

I don't think Q or Monetpenny should appear in the Craig films so they can be brought back when a new actor takes over years from now.