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Some initial thoughts - just seen it


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#1 Jim

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 07:22 PM

Fool that I may be, but I have chosen to read

#2 Seannery

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 07:41 PM

To the bonfire then!(or would that be bondfire)

#3 Mamadou

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 08:29 PM

LOL :P

I get to see it on Sunday. Interesting to see that the "novelisation" is surpassed, in a mind-bendingly backhanded way, by the film. :) I can't wait!

#4 marktmurphy

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 08:39 PM

I've lost track of which side of sarcasm we're on*. Does that mean you like the film, Jim?





*or am I just being sarcastic? Perhaps I'm doing it again now. Or perhaps I'm not. Or perhaps I am.

#5 Tarl_Cabot

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 09:17 PM

Glad Jim liked the movie. We don't need another A-Z on CR-although it might be worth tolerating another turkey outing just for that read. :)

#6 Blonde Bond

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 09:44 PM

Glad you liked the film, funny guy. :)

#7 kneelbeforezod

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 01:38 AM

What a great review :)

You are a seriously witty bastard... do you write for a living I wonder?

#8 Vauxhall

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 03:26 AM

Brilliant Jim - a unique review there :) Glad you considered the movie such a success.

#9 JimmyBond

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 03:46 AM

Brilliant Jim - a unique review there :P Glad you considered the movie such a success.



You should read his DAD (or as he calls it "DUD") review :P

Glad you enjoyed it Jim, and this coming from someone who disliked Brosnan can only be a good thing :)

#10 spynovelfan

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 09:39 AM

Wonderful review.

Another thing the novelisation really fell down on was motivation. Whereas in the film the motivations of Bond, Le Chiffre, Rene Mathis, Felix Leiter and Vesper Lynd are all clear and serve the plot, this "Fleming" moron seems to have entirely missed that - they all just seem to be floating around this dreary resort for no particular reason. I was almost surprised he didn't add a couple more supporting characters to do nothing just for fun, so spectacularly lazy was his plotting. He must have been working from a very early draft, poor sod.

I wonder if it even counts as canon in the same way as Benson's oeuvre.

I'll stop there before Jim deletes his post. :)

#11 erniecureo

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 04:07 PM

I don't like people (like, say, Jim, for instance) who are demonstrably more clever than I am.

On the other hand, I've been told that it's not too difficult.

Very funny! :)

#12 Seannery

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 04:12 PM

Wonderful review.

Another thing the novelisation really fell down on was motivation. Whereas in the film the motivations of Bond, Le Chiffre, Rene Mathis, Felix Leiter and Vesper Lynd are all clear and serve the plot, this "Fleming" moron seems to have entirely missed that - they all just seem to be floating around this dreary resort for no particular reason. I was almost surprised he didn't add a couple more supporting characters to do nothing just for fun, so spectacularly lazy was his plotting. He must have been working from a very early draft, poor sod.

I wonder if it even counts as canon in the same way as Benson's oeuvre.

I'll stop there before Jim deletes his post. :)





Spy ,unlike the irony of yourself and Jim(most entertaining :P ), I most non-ironically say Fleming was a solid genre writer--nothing less, nothing more. I know this doesn't suprise you since you've heard this blasphemy from myself before. He does capture a certain colorful something but there are plenty of better thriller/suspense writers.

#13 killkenny kid

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 04:16 PM

This thread is the reason, I have jim envy. :)

#14 spynovelfan

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 04:18 PM

Seannery, I love Fleming's work - but I also love that of other thriller-writers. There's a thread here you might wish to contribute to, now you're back from spoiler-free world (a good place to have been, incidentally):

http://debrief.comma...x.php...&st=30

There's more I could say there, but I'm too exhausted/exhilirated from seeing CR. :) (It's not perfect, Seannery - but it is damnably good. I will force you to admit this as soon as you join Loomis' club.)

#15 Seannery

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 05:56 PM

Interesting thread SNF, i'll have to explore it later :P . Yes it was nice being away from the Bond hothouse for some time but as Al Pacino said, "They keep pulling me back in". :)

I can't wait to see CR so we can all have a debate/discussion on its reality and not its possibility. Will we largely agree on this one SNF? Maybe--every rare once in a while we do!

Loomis has a club now?

#16 Bondian

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 10:31 AM

I think you ought to provide free underpants when you write stuff like this, Jim. :P

Your incredibly unique intelligent humour and your skillful use of words take precedence over the subject in question.

Can I commission you to write my life story?. :)

Cheers,


Ian

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 11:30 AM

I don't like people (like, say, Jim, for instance) who are demonstrably more clever than I am.

Very funny! :)


Right there with you sir.

You'll learn to hate the bastard.

#18 ACE

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 12:09 PM

Very funny Jim. And quite brllyant!