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[Auric64]

I don`t know if this has been addressed in another thread, (I have not had enough time to read all the reviews of CR) but has anyone here who has seen the film, commented on how good/bad Arnold`s musical score is?

Is there ANY of his electronic type music in the film, or has Arnold gone back to how Barry used to do it: all strings, trumpets and the like, with a full orchestral score?

I`m really pleased a CBN staff member has said that the title song is the instrumental version of YKMN, as I haven`t been too impressed by Cornel`s vocals or his lyrics.

If someone can tell me the good news that Arnold has done a full orchestral score, I will be very, very happy.

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Andy

[stamper]

Apparently, the soundtrack is mixed very low, as usual. (according to the images online)

[MattofSteel]

That bothered me about DAD. Alot. Worst mixed film in history, IMO.

[Vauxhall]

I`m really pleased a CBN staff member has said that the title song is the instrumental version of YKMN, as I haven`t been too impressed by Cornel`s vocals or his lyrics.

Afraid it's not an instrumental version. The review was misintepreted. It was actually meant to say that the second version of the song, with the more prominent orchestral backing was the version used. But orchestral versions do feature prominently in the movie itself.

[Jackanaples]

I don`t know if this has been addressed in another thread, (I have not had enough time to read all the reviews of CR) but has anyone here who has seen the film, commented on how good/bad Arnold`s musical score is?

Is there ANY of his electronic type music in the film, or has Arnold gone back to how Barry used to do it: all strings, trumpets and the like, with a full orchestral score?

I`m really pleased a CBN staff member has said that the title song is the instrumental version of YKMN, as I haven`t been too impressed by Cornel`s vocals or his lyrics.

If someone can tell me the good news that Arnold has done a full orchestral score, I will be very, very happy.

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Andy

I haven't seen the film yet (DAMN IT!) but I have listened to the score. It's fully orchestrated, with light electronic touches on a few tracks, used in a minimal and effective manner. You can totally relax, Andy. I think it's Arnold's best score for a Bond movie thus far by a country mile. Lots of trumpets by the way.

As for Cornell's song, I personally like it very much, and think it's the most masculine song we've gotten since Tom Jones's "Thunderball." It's a bit of shock to hear a Bond theme so agressive, but I think that (as with everything in CR) is exactly the point: Free the series from the deadening weight of boring cliche mistaken for time-honored tradition.

What one of the reviews on this board said is that it's second version of the song which is played over the credits. This is the orchestrated version of the song with more strings and trumpets. I remember them also commenting that it sounded a whole lot better in the theater than on their computer sound system.

[Auric64]

[quote name='Vauxhall' date='7 November 2006 - 13:57' post='641778']

Afraid it's not an instrumental version. The review was misintepreted. It was actually meant to say that the second version of the song, with the more prominent orchestral backing was the version used. But orchestral versions do feature prominently in the movie itself.

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[quote name='Jackanaples' date='7 November 2006 - 14:02' post='641782']
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I haven't seen the film yet (DAMN IT!) but I have listened to the score. It's fully orchestrated, with light electronic touches on a few tracks, used in a minimal and effective manner. You can totally relax, Andy. I think it's Arnold's best score for a Bond movie thus far by a country mile. Lots of trumpets by the way.

As for Cornell's song, I personally like it very much, and think it's the most masculine song we've gotten since Tom Jones's "Thunderball." It's a bit of shock to hear a Bond theme so agressive, but I think that (as with everything in CR) is exactly the point: Free the series from the deadening weight of boring cliche mistaken for time-honored tradition.

What one of the reviews on this board said is that it's second version of the song which is played over the credits. This is the orchestrated version of the song with more strings and trumpets. I remember them also commenting that it sounded a whole lot better in the theater than on their computer sound system.
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Thanks, Jackanaples, for easing my fears regarding Arnold`s score. However, I`m still confused about Cornell`s song over the credits.

Vauxhall is saying it isn`t an instrumental version of the song, you are saying that it`s the second version of the song which is played over the credits, and it IS orchestrated, (instrumental then?). Which is it?

Do we hear Cornell singing over the credits, (with whichever mix it may be) or is there an instrumental version of Cornell`s song played over the credits?

Confused from the UK.

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Andy

[Zorin Industries]

I have seen the film and it is probably David Arnold's most effective, Barry-esque score. The instrumental version of the Cornell theme is put to good use too.

The best pieces revolve around VESPER. Her scene in the shower is one of the most beautiful, honest and well written since OHMSS. Arnold's score punctuates it perfectly.

Cornell's song is used over the opening titles. It is another version that ups the orchestral sweep of it whilst retaining Cornell's cock rock anthem. I wasnt a fan of the song originally, but it is very suited to the film and the moment the credits start. Having the best title sequence ever helps too (I can't reiterate that enough - the title sequence is a work of retro art).

[JimmyBond]

Vauxhall is saying it isn`t an instrumental version of the song, you are saying that it`s the second version of the song which is played over the credits, and it IS orchestrated, (instrumental then?). Which is it?
Confused from the UK.

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Andy

Orchestrated doesnt equal instrumental, not sure how you got that idea. There are three versions of the song, the second one has a more prominent orchestral backing.

[Jackanaples]

Vauxhall is saying it isn`t an instrumental version of the song, you are saying that it`s the second version of the song which is played over the credits, and it IS orchestrated, (instrumental then?). Which is it?
Confused from the UK.

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Andy

Orchestrated doesnt equal instrumental, not sure how you got that idea. There are three versions of the song, the second one has a more prominent orchestral backing.

Sorry, should have written orchestral, not orchestrated. The version of the song used for the opening credits is the second version released, found on Chris Cornell's My Space page. It features more strings and horns backing his vocals (and is also my favorite version of the song that I've heard so far).

Edited by Jackanaples, 07 November 2006 - 02:30 PM.

[Auric64]

Vauxhall is saying it isn`t an instrumental version of the song, you are saying that it`s the second version of the song which is played over the credits, and it IS orchestrated, (instrumental then?). Which is it?
Confused from the UK.

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Andy

Orchestrated doesnt equal instrumental, not sure how you got that idea. There are three versions of the song, the second one has a more prominent orchestral backing.

JimmyBond, you are absolutely correct. Orchestrated doesn`t equal instrumental. I must have been having a funny five minutes there.

So, the music over the titles IS the vocal by Cornell. Shame.

Having said that, it may suit the titles, I just don`t dig it as a Bond song where I could just sit and listen to it, as a separate piece of music. To me it doesn`t scream 'Bond' as others have.

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Andy

[Zorin Industries]

Whether you dig the song or not it works in the film...

[MattofSteel]

Funny, it always has to me. Sounds distinctly Bondian, especially now with my ear having picked up the main melody and tracking it through.

Lyrically, I think the best effort we've had recently as well. The song is just so damn catchy to me, a real foot tapping number that I play constantly while I'm out running. Inspiring in that sense.

Strange how it has divided everyone so much. And not usual dividing, like with the new Superman suit: "Well, it's kinda red"...."well, it's a bit dark...", "No, it's TOO dark!". People are either for or against, completely polarized.

I was getting tired of ballads anyways. And MAN I cannot wait to see these titles!

[Zorin Industries]

The titles have to be seen to be believed. No women though.... Bit everything else in spades....and diamonds....and hearts and - you get the picture...

[JimmyBond]

Someone mentioned the music is mixed too low. Is this true? Is it like all of Arnold's previous scores where the action drowns out the music?

[Aces High]

I have to say I like the theme,both vocal & instumental.However the score of the movie lacks highlights,remined me more of Eric Serra's 'Goldeneye' score.Don't get me wrong it does the film no harm ,but there are moments when an action scene needed a dash of Barry,The crane fight scene score was the highlight for me,musically.
David Arnold is still the best composer around today & belongs in that ellite club with John Barry,Jerry Goldsmith,& Carter Burwell.Alas John Williams need not apply he he !!