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#31 Johnny Tower

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 06:10 AM

Wonderful review, Dave. I have a stupid question... gunbarrel sequence or not? At the end of the pre-title sequence or at the end of the film? Thanks for your reply. Take care.

#32 The Admiral

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 08:40 AM

There is a gun barrel sequence.

Spoiler


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Posted 06 November 2006 - 09:45 AM

Great review, Dave,

Which version of the title song played over the opening credits?

#34 The Admiral

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 09:58 AM

I believe it was the orchestral version that we've heard - but when I listened to another version I wasn't too sure.

The sound system at the cinema was 1000x better than my set-up here - and that makes a huge impact on what you hear.

I'll have to wait for the 14th to listen again.

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 10:54 AM

I fear it bad form to be the only negative voice, but I can't help but to be simply sickened, and without calmness or composure enough to be quiet about it. :) Yargg.

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 11:00 AM

I fear it bad form to be the only negative voice, but I can't help but to be simply sickened, and without calmness or composure enough to be quiet about it. :) Yargg.


With 2 posts to your name and that sig, you'll excuse us if we take your opinion with a very large pinch of salt...

#37 David Schofield

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 12:26 PM

I believe it was the orchestral version that we've heard - but when I listened to another version I wasn't too sure.

The sound system at the cinema was 1000x better than my set-up here - and that makes a huge impact on what you hear.

I'll have to wait for the 14th to listen again.


So "You Know My Name" is instrumental in the titles then, not sung by Chris Cornell? Does it appear as a vocal anywhere?

Might explain why its not on the OST?

#38 Shrublands

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 12:34 PM


I believe it was the orchestral version that we've heard - but when I listened to another version I wasn't too sure.

The sound system at the cinema was 1000x better than my set-up here - and that makes a huge impact on what you hear.

I'll have to wait for the 14th to listen again.


So "You Know My Name" is instrumental in the titles then, not sung by Chris Cornell? Does it appear as a vocal anywhere?

Might explain why its not on the OST?


I think the Admiral is saying that it

#39 David Schofield

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 12:38 PM

[quote name='Shrublands' post='640983' date='6 November 2006 - 12:34']
[quote name='David Schofield' post='640979' date='6 November 2006 - 12:26']
[quote name='The Admiral' post='640930' date='6 November 2006 - 09:58']
I believe it was the orchestral version that we've heard - but when I listened to another version I wasn't too sure.

The sound system at the cinema was 1000x better than my set-up here - and that makes a huge impact on what you hear.

I'll have to wait for the 14th to listen again.
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So "You Know My Name" is instrumental in the titles then, not sung by Chris Cornell? Does it appear as a vocal anywhere?

Might explain why its not on the OST?
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I think the Admiral is saying that it

#40 The Admiral

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 01:07 PM

I was referring to the orchestral version of the track - not an solely-instrumental version.

#41 00Twelve

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 02:05 PM

Thanks, Dave! Your review helps tide me over for another week and a half. The suspense is KILLING me! (I hope it'll last...:))

Edited by 00Twelve, 06 November 2006 - 02:06 PM.


#42 killkenny kid

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 03:39 PM

Great review, Dave. :) Just a few more days. :P

#43 Vauxhall

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 04:00 PM

I fear it bad form to be the only negative voice, but I can't help but to be simply sickened, and without calmness or composure enough to be quiet about it. :) Yargg.

Yet you have enough calmness and composure not to say exactly what you're referring to.

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 09:39 PM

Great review.

Apart from having to work, does anybody else have good ideas what to do with my time to possibly help it get to the 17th quicker?

#45 Qwerty

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 04:19 AM

Great review.

Apart from having to work, does anybody else have good ideas what to do with my time to possibly help it get to the 17th quicker?


Read Ian Fleming's Casino Royale. :)

#46 JimmyBond

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 04:37 AM

I fear it bad form to be the only negative voice, but I can't help but to be simply sickened, and without calmness or composure enough to be quiet about it. :) Yargg.



If I may inquire further. What are you sickened about? The lack of a proper gunbarrel?

#47 Roger Moore's Bad Facelift

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 02:30 PM

I belong to a marginalized fringe of online Bond fandom that actually enjoyed the hell out of DAD.
Reading this was encouraging, but the reviewer's distaste for DAD tells me his tastes may be out of synch with my own.

I faintly recall CBN-poobah, Zencat enjoying DAD.
I'd be greatly interested in reading his take on CR.

#48 MattofSteel

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 02:39 PM

DAD had good elements, and bad elements. Given what we know (for those of us who haven't seen CR yet;)), I think at this point it's useless for us to try and compare the films. Different taste palette, altogether. But then maybe that's what we're talking about?

BTW Dave, 2 quick questions:

A) How did you find the sound mix?
:) How well does Arnold's score work? (I've heard the samples and love it to death, how does it accompany the visuals? Lots of "oomph" moments?)

#49 Roger Moore's Bad Facelift

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 02:46 PM

DAD had good elements, and bad elements. Given what we know (for those of us who haven't seen CR yet;)), I think at this point it's useless for us to try and compare the films. Different taste palette, altogether. But then maybe that's what we're talking about?


I'm not so much directly comparing the two.
DAD simply represents the happy-go-lucky, lighthearted Bond-template I personally prefer (see Octopussy, TSWLM, YOLT etc. etc.)

I'm afraid CR will be of the self-serious, heavy-handed variety like the dramatically-overwrought Goldeneye.

Edited by Roger Moore's Bad Facelift, 07 November 2006 - 02:50 PM.


#50 MattofSteel

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 04:54 PM

Ah, I see. Well my preference is a mix of the two, so after DAD, I'm quite happy to be getting a Connery-esque spy thriller again.

#51 Nicolas Suszczyk

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Posted 10 November 2006 - 07:08 PM

Another 2 questions, Dave...

1) Do we hear Barry's 007 theme?
2) After 007 shoots in the gunbarrel, how does the gunbarrel fade into the titles? The iris opens to reveal them?

Thanks

#52 The Admiral

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Posted 10 November 2006 - 07:26 PM

No 007 Theme :)

I actually can't remember about the gun barrel to titles transition - sorry! Need to see it again.

#53 Nicolas Suszczyk

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Posted 10 November 2006 - 07:29 PM

Thanks. I also will miss the 007 theme. :-(

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Posted 10 November 2006 - 08:16 PM


DAD had good elements, and bad elements. Given what we know (for those of us who haven't seen CR yet;)), I think at this point it's useless for us to try and compare the films. Different taste palette, altogether. But then maybe that's what we're talking about?


I'm not so much directly comparing the two.
DAD simply represents the happy-go-lucky, lighthearted Bond-template I personally prefer (see Octopussy, TSWLM, YOLT etc. etc.)

I'm afraid CR will be of the self-serious, heavy-handed variety like the dramatically-overwrought Goldeneye.

CR looks to me like it will neatly bypass the joys, quirks, and potholes of the Brosnan, Dalton, and Moore eras in favor of the headier delights to be found in Terence Young's Connery films (and Peter Hunt's OHMSS with Lazenby): Style, sophistication, wit, sex, a touch of sadism, and brutal violence. You know, Ian Fleming's James Bond. About damn time too. I thought I'd die before I saw that bloke again.

Edited by Jackanaples, 10 November 2006 - 08:17 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2006 - 08:22 PM

CR looks to me like it will neatly bypass the joys, quirks, and potholes of the Brosnan, Dalton, and Moore eras in favor of the headier delights to be found in Terence Young's Connery films (and Peter Hunt's OHMSS with Lazenby): Style, sophistication, wit, sex, a touch of sadism, and brutal violence. You know, Ian Fleming's James Bond. About damn time too. I thought I'd die before I saw that bloke again.

Amen. Couldn't have said that better.

#56 Roger Moore's Bad Facelift

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Posted 10 November 2006 - 10:15 PM

CR looks to me like it will neatly bypass the joys, quirks, and potholes of the Brosnan, Dalton, and Moore eras in favor of the headier delights to be found in Terence Young's Connery films (and Peter Hunt's OHMSS with Lazenby): Style, sophistication, wit, sex, a touch of sadism, and brutal violence.


By all means, yes, let

#57 Jackanaples

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Posted 10 November 2006 - 11:21 PM

Cheer up then None of the reviews we've read indicates that you have anything to worry about on that score. No "It's what keeps me alive" bollocks from Craig's Bond I don't think.

Also, wasn't Brosnan that talked about "peeling back the layers" as his approach to Bond? I don't remember Campbell saying that. But I've never owned the GOLDENEYE dvd so I might be wrong on that.

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Posted 10 November 2006 - 11:25 PM

[quote name='Roger Moore's Bad Facelift' post='644107' date='10 November 2006 - 22:15']
Campbell always talks about peeling back the layers of Bond

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Posted 10 November 2006 - 11:31 PM

Crikey, talk about: "I'm directing the new James Bond film, but I've told my parents I play the piano in a brothel."

Okay, this made me laugh really hard. Never heard that one before.

#60 Roger Moore's Bad Facelift

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 06:09 PM

Cheer up then None of the reviews we've read indicates that you have anything to worry about on that score. No "It's what keeps me alive" bollocks from Craig's Bond I don't think.


That's reassuring.
Your above GE quote was the very sort of self-serious piffle I was alluding to.
Let's hope for the best.