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[zencat]

http://www.badtaste....e...r=0&thold=0

Now on the CBn main page...

Casino Royale Set Report & Photographs Online

_{Exclusive report from the Bond set in Venice}

[Jim]

Yumster.

[zencat]

Big-time spoiler in here.

[K1Bond007]

Nice.

One gripe for the writer of that site: stop calling this a remake

[Matt_13]

Nice article, but the pics aren't too great. In any case nice find!

[The Dove]

Nice.

One gripe for the writer of that site: stop calling this a remake

Yes I agree! That annoyed me as well!!

[JimmyBond]

Nice.

One gripe for the writer of that site: stop calling this a remake

Technically it is a remake. After all it's the third time the book has been adapted.

[zencat]

For some reason the main page quick link isn't going to the article. Can someone fix?

[Mister Asterix]

For some reason the main page quick link isn't going to the article. Can someone fix?

Fixed.

[K1Bond007]

Nice.

One gripe for the writer of that site: stop calling this a remake

Technically it is a remake. After all it's the third time the book has been adapted.

Actually, technically, Casino Royale and similar such films are consider reinterpretations, not remakes. A remake is a film that uses a previous film as source material - that's the modern definition. The Thomas Crown Affair starring Brosnan is a remake of The Thomas Crown Affair starring McQueen. It's all about the source it uses. Casino Royale starring Craig uses Fleming's novel as a source, not the 1967 film (Thank God, too) nor the 1954 TV episode. They have similar plot, characters, etc, but it's not a remake. Call it a technicality or whatever, but that's how it's defined. They're wholly-different adaptations. To say CR is a remake is to say that Batman starring Keaton is a remake or Batman Begins starring Bale, both of which show Batman starting out - keeping in mind that Batman's first film was in the mid-60s and shares the same comic book source material.

[killkenny kid]

Another great find, zencat.

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

Casino Royale Set Report & Photographs Online

_{Exclusive report from the Bond set in Venice}

[DLibrasnow]

Actually, technically, Casino Royale and similar such films are consider reinterpretations, not remakes. A remake is a film that uses a previous film as source material - that's the modern definition. The Thomas Crown Affair starring Brosnan is a remake of The Thomas Crown Affair starring McQueen. It's all about the source it uses. Casino Royale starring Craig uses Fleming's novel as a source, not the 1967 film (Thank God, too) nor the 1954 TV episode. They have similar plot, characters, etc, but it's not a remake. Call it a technicality or whatever, but that's how it's defined. They're wholly-different adaptations. To say CR is a remake is to say that Batman starring Keaton is a remake or Batman Begins starring Bale, both of which show Batman starting out - keeping in mind that Batman's first film was in the mid-60s and shares the same comic book source material.

So, on the basis of your argument NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN is NOT a remake of THUNDERBALL. It is merely a reinterpretation of the 1950 treatments and Fleming book.

[triviachamp]

Actually, technically, Casino Royale and similar such films are consider reinterpretations, not remakes. A remake is a film that uses a previous film as source material - that's the modern definition. The Thomas Crown Affair starring Brosnan is a remake of The Thomas Crown Affair starring McQueen. It's all about the source it uses. Casino Royale starring Craig uses Fleming's novel as a source, not the 1967 film (Thank God, too) nor the 1954 TV episode. They have similar plot, characters, etc, but it's not a remake. Call it a technicality or whatever, but that's how it's defined. They're wholly-different adaptations. To say CR is a remake is to say that Batman starring Keaton is a remake or Batman Begins starring Bale, both of which show Batman starting out - keeping in mind that Batman's first film was in the mid-60s and shares the same comic book source material.

So, on the basis of your argument NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN is NOT a remake of THUNDERBALL. It is merely a reinterpretation of the 1950 treatments and Fleming book.

One could argue that I suppose. Lorenzo Semple Jr did say that using material from the book that were unused in the film was preferable though apparently no one really knew what they could or couldn't use in the film.
It should be noted the imdb lists NSNA as another "version" of Thunderball, not a "remake."

If using the same source material is enough to make a film a "remake" then I guess every Shakespeare or Dickens film is a remake of a silent one reeler.

Is Valmont a remake of Dangerous Liasons? Is Cruel Intentions a remake of both films? Is Pride and Prejudice a remake of Bride and Prejudice?

Edited by triviachamp, 25 June 2006 - 12:10 AM.

[Bond_JamesBond007]

I came across this while looking around on google. http://www.badtaste....e...le&sid=3369 it has a day by day account of what happened at the Venice shooting and some pictures are there, take a look.

[Qwerty]

This is from June 2006 - topics merged.

[Bond_JamesBond007]

Ok cool I wasn't sure if this had been found before but nevertheless, I wonder what the infamous bank scene is? Does anyone know?

[JimmyBond]

Vesper withdraws money from a bank. Nothing to exciting about that.

[K1Bond007]

Actually, technically, Casino Royale and similar such films are consider reinterpretations, not remakes. A remake is a film that uses a previous film as source material - that's the modern definition. The Thomas Crown Affair starring Brosnan is a remake of The Thomas Crown Affair starring McQueen. It's all about the source it uses. Casino Royale starring Craig uses Fleming's novel as a source, not the 1967 film (Thank God, too) nor the 1954 TV episode. They have similar plot, characters, etc, but it's not a remake. Call it a technicality or whatever, but that's how it's defined. They're wholly-different adaptations. To say CR is a remake is to say that Batman starring Keaton is a remake or Batman Begins starring Bale, both of which show Batman starting out - keeping in mind that Batman's first film was in the mid-60s and shares the same comic book source material.

So, on the basis of your argument NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN is NOT a remake of THUNDERBALL. It is merely a reinterpretation of the 1950 treatments and Fleming book.

This is a tricky situation since technically Thunderball the book is actually a novelization of a film that didn't at that point exist. So technically the movie itself is based on the screenplays that later became the book and the film itself. There is no definitive answer on this one - to my knowledge beyond being generally considered a remake by the mass public, however, considering NSNA used Thunderball's screenplays as a source (original script actually credited to Whittingham) and not the book, I would classify it as a remake. But that's me and this is all far too technical to really care about. I'm sure anyone can argue both sides easily.

[Bond_JamesBond007]

Vesper withdraws money from a bank. Nothing to exciting about that.

No nothing to exciting about that at all. I just heard somewhere that she is paying off the terrorists so she can be with Bond.

[Vauxhall]

Vesper withdraws money from a bank. Nothing to exciting about that.

No nothing to exciting about that at all. I just heard somewhere that she is paying off the terrorists so she can be with Bond.

Well... sort of. Just doesn't really go to plan!

[Qwerty]

Vesper withdraws money from a bank. Nothing to exciting about that.

I'm excited for any scene in Casino Royale right now.

[DamnCoffee]

Seen most of the pics before - quite boring compared to the others
and Qwerty, i agree with you on that one

[Bond_JamesBond007]

Vesper withdraws money from a bank. Nothing to exciting about that.

No nothing to exciting about that at all. I just heard somewhere that she is paying off the terrorists so she can be with Bond.

Well... sort of. Just doesn't really go to plan!

Ok thanks for the insight, I guess thats where I read Bond chases her through Venice for whatever reason.